Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Sure as hell did not hurt WW any. Oh, you hae a f This. I admit I had low expectations going into the first, but had a blast with it. But I thought the second one was a huge dropoff in quality,and all the films after that out and out sucked.
  2. She was actually hired to direct Thor 2, but then Marvel got cold feet; a sort of repeat ,ironically enough with what happned at Warners a decade ago with Josh Whedon being hired to do "Wonder Woman". And I got a feeling that a lot of the films she wanted to do were small ,serious dramas,and those are really hard to get greelit nowdays (one of things I think is really bad about the way Hollywood works nowdays) she found television more promising. That is the irony, in many ways you have more freedom doing tv then you do doing movies. It is easier to get a 150 Million dollar action film green lit, even if everything about it looks like crap,then a 30 Million dollar drama with huge talent involved.
  3. Because it's hard to sell people tickets to something people think they can see for free on TV. And "the Show is Terrible" is your personal opinion. A lot of people very much like the show, or it would not have stayed on. I think two live action Flashes at the same time could work if the screen one is a member of ensemble, but not so much solo.
  4. Fincher the God????? Last time I looked, as far as box office goes, Fincher record was very uneven.
  5. Not the way the film seems to be underperforming...... I know the idea that a Tranformers film will not be a big hit is hard to grasp but try.....
  6. Thanks for revealing you know nothing about the film industry. Just a few years ago, people were writing Univerasal off as the studio that could do nothing right.
  7. BUt how much? A smart studio exec quits when he is ahead;he sees when all that can be gotten out of a franchise has been gotten, and you probably lose money on the next one. I think if TF5 underperforms the way it seems to be destined to, Paramount might well pull the plug.
  8. I think the basic franchise idea pretty much had blown it's wad by the third film. Paramount tried to keep it going by adding plot gimmicks;it worked for 4 but seems to have failed here.
  9. Or maybe they will decide to cut their losses.It could go either way.
  10. I am beginning to suspect that Warners will not actually make this film until the TV series has finished it's run....
  11. I really doubt how much appeal a Venom film without Spidey will have for the mainstream non comic book geek audience. Granted, Suicide Squad did well but that could be a outlier. Sony should be smart and keep the costs down on this one.
  12. I said MOST,Not ALL. The Mummy lends it self well to the action adventure angle, but Franky, Wolfie and the rest...not so much.
  13. But when you add in marketing.......and between 75 and 100 Million seems to be the average for marketing for a major film of this type nowdays. Rule of thumb is that, when all is averaged in, Universal will get around 50% of the box office take. The means 250 to break even if you accept the 125 Million figure (and I suspect it is being lowballed a little..though 195 seems way to high) but that is not counting marketing,which , for some reason,studios carry on a separate budget. Point is even if The Mummy makes a modest profit, it is a film that a lot of people who saw it did not like,and it is NOT a good start for the "Dark Universe". I suspect a lot of retooling is underway. Luckily for Universal, retooling is easy this early in the game. I would not be surprised if the whole "Super Secret Orgnaization Fighing Monsters" angle does a Jar Jar and gets really downplayed .