Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. If Cameron can pull this off in a feasible way then regular predicting will be useless. LMAO, 1B DOM and 3B WW would become the absolute floor.
  2. Has anyone else watched THE TICKET? Amazing movie! Dan Steven's acting was great! And the ending got me really torn between feeling sorry for the character and thinking it serves him right. Still, the message was so blunt.
  3. I asked you that exactly because you treat your opinion like it is a fact.
  4. You know what I find funny? The fact that some people here state 'Pixar being quality' as a FACT. LMAO. It is about taste. Pixar made only one truly great film so far imo. The fact that you like them means only that. If you bring me the critic argument, which means a majority likes it, then I will bring you the money argument. DM is the biggest animation franchise in history on a WW level. And like it or not, Minions had some insane legs OS. And yeah, SLOP is the best animation of last year and one of the best ever. As an adult, it kept me entertained as hell (which most animated films cannot do) and appealed to the animal lover in me. Illumination truly is the smartest studio out there. You know why? Because generally speaking, american animations (I call the that to differentiate them from animes, where the true quality lies) are made for kids. You can't expect parents or adults in general to be as entertained by an animation as the kids. So you appeal to them by bringing in universal values: humor, love for animals etc. Like it or not, western animations can't treat deep themes too well, simply because they have to keep their rating and they have to make everything understandable by kids. Saying Pixar makes deep movies is hilarious.
  5. LMAO, you think anyone watching this movie will give a fuck about reviews. Kids will enjoy it and drag their parents along. And people who loved Minions will like this too. This is not goingbunder 300m.
  6. RO barely crossed 1B. And of course it did. They are the first SW movies in forever. With Disney pumping out 1 movie/year they will settle probably around 1-1.3B for the main saga and under 1B for the spin-offs. But that is not the point. We have bif/huge franchises that took risks and it worked. Why can't SW?
  7. You are making it seem like the safe way is the only way to make money. Just look at some of the biggest franchises ever. POTC started as a gamble. HP started as a gamble. Nolan's TDK trilogy started as a gamble. And generally speaking a healthy franchise is a franchise that grows. Style needs to change for it to remain interesting. Nothing wrong with an original take.
  8. I have mixed feelings about this. One one side I love Ron Howard's direction. On another side, with every article that comes out I pray Kennedy gets the boot sooner rather than later. I wanna live to see a great SW movie, rather than a good one and you can't do that by always being safe and rehashing stuff. RO is supposed to be a war movie. But it felt like a washed down version of it. Wars and conflicts in the SW universe, book wise, are amazing! I want to see that on the big screen.
  9. You know, I just watched Grace's review of DM3 and she was making some interesting statements about how the DM franchise (and DM3 esp) are very european at heart. And I think she is right. It is the reason why DM is the biggest animated franchise in the world (ever actually). I see a lot of people defining Minions humor as slapstick and whatnot, but here for example, the audience at my showing for that movie was half adults (and I mean 20-30 YO, without kids). It is the only animation able to do that around here that I know of. I think cultural difference plays a big part in how you perceive the quality of these movies.
  10. Very good but not great, meh, even meh-er, lmao. Brave is actually one of the better Pixar outings. Haven't seen TGD.
  11. One of the most overrated animations ever. Minions is 10x better.
  12. I think you got it mixed up with Pixar. They still have to make a great movie after Ratatouille. WW yes. DOM no. I expect a 100m-ish OW with great legs.