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  1. On 5/9/2022 at 4:28 PM, Porthos said:

     

    Sigh.

     

    Not to pick at a scab, but... Getting this show in front of reviewers is:

     

    1] A way to build up hype among the GA

    2] A way to help set expectations for the fans so we don't get a mismatch in expected tone/style like we did in TBoBF

    3] Not gonna stop things from getting out that the studio doesn't want out since you can enforce NDAs from screeners.

     

    Not to mention that Kenobi looks to be a pretty leaky production if the volume of almost-entirely-ignored-by-your-truly chatter over at SW Leaks is any indication. 

     

    It's just... Nearly maddening how much they idolize secrecy over there. 

    Its not going to matter. The show is pretty hyped

  2. 1 hour ago, LVB said:

     

    Wanda: Enslaves an entire town.

    Wanda: Realizes she is creating a hex by trapping people.
    Wanda: Doesn't care when Monica tells her about it.

    Wanda: Comes out of the hex to confront S.W.O.R.D and warns them not to bother her.

    Wanda: Refuses to take down the hex when the people tell her that they're suffering.

     

    Agatha: Wanda, the Darkhold is the book of the damned and it's your destiny to destroy the world.

     

    Wanda: Agrees to let the town go only when Vision confronts her.

    Wanda: Realizes that Vision and the twins will go with the hex so she closes it again.

    Wanda: Decides to destroy the hex because she's cornered.

    Wanda: Runs away from consequences.

    Wanda: Pursues dark magic through the Darkhold to get her fake family back.

     

    People: Healing from grief and pain is linear! Wanda learned her lesson! She was ready to be a good person!

    Hey, I already said it worked for me, but if a lot of people are complaining about Wanda's turn to evil, then maybe that one scene would have made a big difference.

  3. 1 hour ago, AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:

    360 off 190 OW means its legs would be worse than Morbius. Would be interesting if that happened to say the least.

     

    On a side note - and I may be completely misreading things and be way wrong here - but some friends and family were sharing how aghast they were that this movie was not suitable for kids. Whether we like it or not parents are used to taking the kiddies to watch Mahvel as they considered the usual PG-13 in their movies to be okay. Something like Avengers, Iron Man, Spider-Man, etc.

     

    Not so much lately. Between this, Moon Knight, the more mature tone of Eternals (which included MCU's first on screen sex scene where John Snow plowed Gemma Chan), and more to come including rated R Deadpool I feel like Marvel should have Marvel Knights/Marvel MAX logo and branding for such projects, whether they are rated R or hard edge PG-13. Iger had touched on this before when he was CEO but they need to make sure and crystal clear when the branding is okay for families and when it's not. They have not done a good job with that so far and their most recent projects suggests to me that they should.

    Finally someone in agreement. That one scene was brutal Not saying the scene. If you saw the movie, you should know what I'm talking about.. Anyway, this movie is for sure an edgier Marvel movie and does push the blood/gore factor. Parents take four and five year olds to see Marvel movies. They expect some violence, but there is also a hard line. New branding might work for certain projects. Moon Knight seemed a very hard TV-14 to me.

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  4. I think the mixed reception comes down to Wanda. Some felt she took a shift to the dark side too fast. I felt the explanation that the dark hold corrupted her worked for me. But, I do think if there was a scene before the title card where we see the book corrupting her, that one little addition would have made a world of difference in terms of reception.

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  5. 18 minutes ago, Fox20 said:

    They want to count the cameos that are barely important in or out of the story as being a pseudo Avenger movie like Civil War.

     

    It's just to have more reasons to call the movie a failure.

     

    Let's not forget CW made just slightly above $400M. Even if MoM does that kind of money, it's still good. Was I expecting better, yes. But, the cameos are a small part of the film. And, this is really a Doctor Strange/Wanda flick. CW was Avengers 2.5 I don't think there is a truly good comparison point for MoM. Maybe IM3 is the best comparison since that had an Avengers bump. This obviously had a IW,EG,NWH bump, so to go from the $230s to likely $400s seems decent to me.

     

    The reception is slightly troubling, but Marvel tends to get back on its feet. With Thor 4 right around the corner, everything seems fine.

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  6. Mr. Fantastic got a big reaction from my audience. None of the other cameos did. I think Professor X. would have gotten a reaction if he wasn't in the trailer. Also, I really liked that they used the 90's animated theme here. So, is this the same Professor X. as the animated series, and also lol at this being the third time he's died in some sort of Marvel movie.

  7. Ehh, Avatar was a monster when it came out. I was one of the few who thought $2B was possible before it came out. However, I think things have changed since then. I'm thinking $400M DOM, $500M if the movie is really good. OS I see it exploding.  If it gets a China release, this will likely break the record for highest grossing movie WW. However, on the Domestic front, I don't think it's going to connect with US audiences the same way the first one did.

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  8. On 4/29/2022 at 12:47 PM, Eevin said:

    300m+ seems like a safe bet for this no? every MCU third movie has had a pretty sizable increase, and kang will make it relevant in a way the past films weren’t

     

    Iron Man 3: +31% (312m —> 409m)

    Captain America 3: +57% (260m —> 408m)

    Thor 3: +53% (206m —> 315m)

    NWH: +106% (390m —> 804m) (also probably not a great comparison)

     

    needs a 39% increase to get there. personally over/under 350 sounds about right to me

    I do think there will be an increase and $300M could very well be possible, but I don't think any of these are good comparisions.

     

    Iron Man 3 had an increase because it was the fist MCU movie after Avengers which helped its BO a lot.

    CW was literally Avengers 2.5

    Thor Ragnarok might be the closest comparison but it had a very fresh vibe to it and the Hulk. If Ant-Man 3 looks a lot like the previous 2 that could affect BO.

    NWH was the culmination of 20 years worth of Spider-Man films and the return of Tobey and the first proper Multiverse film.

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