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It's sad that people have to defend this film. People are so quick to label anything that isn't record breaking as disappointing RotK broke the midnight record in 2003 so this should have done like 20M+ last night? Really?? Some people's logic....
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If you look at the biggest midnight numbers, you would know that all those films are either sequels, superhero movies or adaptations of RECENT books that skew younger....the hobbit doesn't fit into any of those categories.Also how is this the biggest loony franchise? A huge segment of LOTR fans are 40 years and older....not exactly midnight material like the young audiences of Potter and Twilight. And although this book has a huge following, it's not a recent phenomenon like those franchises either. It's a very old novel, that has fans of all ages. A 13M midnight is perfectly fine for this.Disagree 100%. ROTK did 8 mill, this is not a great number. This is the biggest loonie franchise, at least on par with SW. It should have done more than 13 mill.
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12.4M was a great number. 13M is even better. Nobody should have been dissappointed with either of those numbers.....13m is great but it's only 600k more than what was reported earlier... Why are people acting like it's so much better?
The over-reactions and bipolarism on this forum
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So it only need 37M more for the rest of the day to get to 50M!! That seems quite attainable.
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I finished finals on the 12th so I was able to see this at 10:00 last night. Most of the people were my age...teens/young twenties. But this series has a huge fanbase of older fans which bodes well for a Friday above 45M.....
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This was pretty much exactly what I expected for a midnight gross. It's well on track to do over 100M this weekend....110-115M may even be possible!
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I just re-watched the extended versions and I think The Two Towers has to be my least favourite entry. Is this an unpopular opinion? I just found the battle of helms deep to be too central to the overall film, and it definitely suffers from having no definite beginning or end. Also Sam and Frodo don't really make much progress as far as their journey to Mordor is concerned. ROTK is easily the best. Most epic and emotional by far....ROTK: A+FOTR: ATT: AAnyways, yes, this is by far the greatest trilogy in history. All three films would probably make my top 10 list....
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RotK is in a completely different league than DH2. It's a cinematic masterpiece incomparable to any other fantasy film. Possibly the greatest film ever made. DH2 is fun and entertaining but it has too many flaws and does not reach the same level of emotional intensity and monumental epicness that RotK delivered.
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This film was fantastic...something I wasn't expecting going in. I've always found the Twilight films to be mediocre and simplistic; nothing special but good entertainment. The finale was on a completely different level from the previous films though. The last half hour was very intense, and in many ways this was a better adaptation than DH2. Although DH2 was a better film just because the source material was better. Twilight: BNew Moon: DEclipse: C+Breaking Dawn Part 1: C+Breaking Dawn Part 2: B +
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BD2 could edge out NM with a 44-46M Sat. Love how we all went from expecting a weekend as low as 120M last night, to 145M tonight.
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That's more like it. I knew that 65M estimate was way too low....70M is still dissappointing though.
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With those numbers, DH2 made more in one day than BD2 over its entire weekend. Huh.previews: 30.4friday without midnights: 34.6saturday: 32.8sunday: 21.9"OW total": 119.7mthe real OW (fri-sun): 89.3m
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These are just very very bad numbers for Breaking Dawn...I mean 250M is looking unlikely at the moment. But who knows, we may all wake up in the morning and see 74M as the actual. Crazier things have happened.
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With 66M, 130M could still be on the table....but I would laugh so hard if this ends up opening with like 119M.....
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But Twilight is the epitome of what frontloaded means. It can't really get much more frontloaded. BD1 had a 2.06x....that's as bad as it gets IMO. What were people expecting? a 1.75x?I don't think anyone was expecting this to go much farther than New Moon adjusted overall. It's just a given that as time progresses, rush factor increases, so we expected a larger initial here than before, and that would begin with midnights. It's not that unreasonable (actually it's pretty typical)
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Phantom Menace adjusts to like 700M. Sorcerer's Stone adjusts to over 450M....it was logical to expect the finales for these franchises to take a hefty increase over its previous installments. They obviously have fans that dont show up for each and every film. Twilights highest ticket seller was New Moon, which adjusts to 310M. To expect anything more than that for BD2 was a little delusional....I mean, why would more people show up for the finale than any film in the franchises history? With the exception of LOTR, this is unprecedented among recent movie franchises.
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Very predictable number. Impressive, but predictable. Should do about 140M for the weekend.....Also, who cares if Summit is reporting thursday numbers with friday? It's not like this film is going to break any records.....
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I will never forget when the teaser trailer for HBP came out. It looked like a horror film at first and had me absolutely captivated. I think I watched it about 20x in its first 24 hours. The last HBP trailer is a close second....it made the film look quite a bit more epic than the previous installments....which is odd because the film itself was one of the least action filled of the series. The amazing cinematography of the film didn't hurt either. It just looked very well-crafted. The first theatrical trailer for Sorcerer's Stone was also very well done. They succeeded brilliantly in making it look the must see film of the year....
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The Dark Knight: Original, memorable, dramatic, complex, intense and compellingThe Avengers: Generic, forgettable, overrated, simple-minded, unamusing and trivialThe Dark Knight is superior in every way.
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Great number for Argo. Hopefully the WOM continues to spread so it can top 100M.....Also, good number for Perks, but unfortunately i'm not seeing an above 20M total for it.
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Yes, I do. Watching a new HP film for the first time is like a 2 hour orgasm. The 2nd and 3rd viewings are really great too, but after a while the flaws become more apparent and then it seems like the quality drastically declines. I think they're all great films, and very well crafted, but upon my first few viewings I view them as Oscar worthy. I get reallly excited! And that's what I miss the most.
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I found The Pianist to be a far more personal film that really emphasized how "luck" played the biggest role in surviving this period. Furthermore, its portrayal of events is much more accurate and emotional. Schindler's List relied too heavily on "imagery" to convey the horror of the holocaust and was a little too lengthy with its 186 min running time.
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Very few blockbuster films can compete with Potter when it comes to cinematography, one of the things I'm most proud about when it comes to this series.
Anyways, Half-Blood Prince was the first film I thought of when I saw the title of this thread. Delbonnel should have won best cinematographer that year...and DH1 and DH2 - although visually beautiful - were both a step down from the sixth instalment. Almost every critic who reviewed the film mentioned and praised its cinematography.....
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It’s not that black and white. Both characters were multifaceted and the sympathy switches from each character to the next. I think suburbia and conformity was what destroyed April. She was a desperate woman looking for a way out. All she wants is possibility in life and something to hope for and there’s her husband having this affair with a young secretary and she can’t even see it. Winslet even said that she viewed April as a stronger character than Frank because of her “desperation” for change.Its a sad depressing movie and Kate is not likeable at all in this film.I did not empathize with Kate in the film and I think it is what a lot of people felt.If you make a tragic love story you need both characters to be likeable
Weekend #s Hobbit 84.7 ROG 7.4 Linc 7.2 Sky 7.0 Pi 5.4 BD2 5.2 pg 90
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If this film were to follow the same trajectory as Twilight or DH2, then yes, this number would be horrendous and would be the flop of the year. Buttt....anyone with a shred of common sense would know that an OW of 110M is still VERY attainable...and so is a DOM gross of 400M. Some of the haters are really taking this 'non record' breaking midnight start as an omen for a terrible box office run...when in reality it's fine and puts it on track for an amazing run. The number is only disappointing when you compare it to other films....but all the comparisons people have made don't make any sense.