IndustriousAngel

it's what we're seeing elsewhere too, premium shows (IMAX, 4DX, Dolby Atmos ...) are selling way better than 2D. Still, I guess this is mainly OW and later on tickets will be cheaper. As to what it means for Austria - 40.000 tickets OW for Cineplexx venues alone sounds good until you consider they have an about 50% market share in Austria. As mentioned, premium shows and evening shows are selling fine, but there's still much room in afternoon and even early evening shows. So, we'll see a massive OW of course, but not as big as No Time to Die (to take the biggest post-covid opener).

first estimates for Germany's weekend from insidekino.de: #1: Avatar 2 - 1.175Mil admissions #2: Hotzenplotz - 0.075Mil well, at least Avatar2 is cornering the market ... not even family releases get any space to breathe. Apart from that, I was expecting a little more from the OW but this is a movie that should, like the first one, leg it beautifully through the holidays and into January, so definitely a winner.

Strange World - while far from a success - is flopping much softer than in Germany - and Violent Night more than doubles Germany's numbers - two more international releases where numbers diverge; we've had a lot of them this year!

maybe ... at my cinema, the 3D ticket with prepaid cards is €13,-- for OD; €14,50 for the weekend - the standard 3D tickets however are €19,-- OD and weekend. 4DX shows are €24,-- - those are not many (but are the only shows nearing sellout). 2D prices are €14,-- withoute rebates and so on - but 2D shows are until now selling a lot less seats, at least OW. That's why I thought it might come in between €18 and 20 for OW but drop later on, because people might switch to 2D for a rewatch and abandon 4DX altogether..

probably somewhere in the 18-20€ region, at least for the first days and weekends. Maybe rewatches will be more 2D but that's hard to predict. As an aside, presales are not too overwhelming ... the evening shows are selling ok (but still a lot of seats available) while afternoon shows are selling really slow. At least at my cinema, it doesn't look like there'll be any sellouts OD.

Germany's Top16 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Der Räuber Hotzenplotz 92.376 717 129 123.459 916.359 - 1 2 Black Panther 2 72.719 521 140 1.338.617 15.396.478 -27 5 3 Einfach mal was Schönes 45.405 718 63 462.168 4.301.933 -23 4 4 Terrifier 2 37.948 282 135 37.948 402.608 - 1 5 Strange World 37.899 511 74 167.149 1.367.561 -24 3 6 Violent Night 37.493 423 89 96.569 946.240 -16 2 7 The Menu 29.710 383 78 230.183 2.175.661 -23 4 8 Teddybjørnens jul 27.438 597 46 127.817 914.385 -3 4 9 She Said 26.544 294 90 36.591 319.943 - 1 10 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 25.760 560 46 2.330.232 17.067.699 -19 11 11 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 19.789 585 34 430.458 3.313.820 -28 6 12 Rheingold 16.307 336 49 925.695 9.344.615 -39 7 13 Der Nachname 11.748 467 25 757.980 7.142.487 -29 8 14 Triangle of Sadness 9.009 176 51 363.840 3.489.682 -21 9 15 Black Adam 8.472 230 37 1.005.990 9.869.215 -34 8 16 Elif Ana 8.176 25 327 8.176 77.838 - 1 Boring weekend with Hotzenplotz as the biggest opener … family releases in general doing a bit better than the rest, but really a disaster weekend for December. Black Adam crossed 1mil total - barely. Next weekend: Finally, Avatar 2 - the biggest post-covid weekend should be little problem, the real question is how high it can go during the holidays - estimates range from 6mil to 10mil total. Truth be told, while people are aware of the opening, there's pretty little excitement - let's see how WOM develops.

those events are pretty expensive ... for example, next week's "The Hours" from the Met is €35,-- per seat. And already 50% sold. Obviously (as in real operas) the real price will be lower since most people interested in these shows have an abo for all 8 events.

Early estimates for Germany's weekend from insidekino.de: #1: Hotzenplotz - 150k incl. previews #2: BP2 - 75k #3: Einfach mal - 50k at least an ok start for the domestic children's book adaption which should do well across the holidays (and got some pretty favourable reviews). Otherwise, still horrible. (some very "good" holds but from a deflated level ...)

Germany's Top12 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 2 99.790 515 194 1.243.963 14.354.081 -31 1 2 Einfach mal was Schönes 59.198 711 83 388.193 3.621.275 -21 3 3 Strange World 50.159 505 99 120.736 1.002.099 -19 2 4 Violent Night 44.733 410 109 44.898 448.147 - 1 5 The Menu 38.426 382 101 187.257 1.765.573 -11 3 6 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 31.985 633 51 2.298.279 16.835.167 -10 10 7 Teddybjørnens jul 28.296 563 50 90.488 695.444 +31 3 8 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 27.354 646 42 405.082 3.125.913 -18 5 9 Rheingold 26.553 395 67 902.541 9.110.430 -30 6 10 Der Nachname 16.524 536 31 738.512 6.958.353 -14 7 11 Black Adam 12.810 272 47 995.085 9.761.262 -22 7 12 Triangle of Sadness 11.383 178 64 349.680 3.354.627 -8 8 One more horrible wekend … drops were not too harsh but with no big opener, business was extremly bad. Same in Austria … Next weekend: With "Der Räuber Hotzenplotz", there's one more popular children's book adaption - probably not that big an opening but hopefully it can reach 1mil total or more during the holidays.

wow, not a single release >100k, that's indeed terrible. Hopefully Germany's leaving the tournament will soften that pressure a little bit. And then of course there's Avatar2 on the horizon, but still - horrible numbers.

btw, sad how The Magic Flute is flopping; it's quite a nice production and really worth hearing on a big PA! I wrote a review: https://www.imdb.com/review/rw8702073

Germany's Top14 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 2 145.615 616 236 1.112.099 12.870.288 -51 3 2 Einfach mal was Schönes 74.553 681 109 289.787 2.712.159 -38 2 3 Strange World 61.686 484 127 61.686 520.663 - 1 4 The Menu 43.169 330 131 131.739 1.240.733 -37 2 5 Rheingold 38.197 390 98 865.403 8.732.950 -58 5 6 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 35.356 672 53 2.261.028 16.562.468 -53 9 7 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 33.464 659 51 372.776 2.883.223 -50 4 8 Teddybjørnens jul 21.669 457 47 57.576 424.267 -30 2 9 Der Nachname 19.196 560 34 714.062 6.729.907 -56 6 10 Black Adam 16.334 313 52 977.932 9.597.443 -55 6 11 Bones and All 13.932 138 101 13.932 132.321 - 1 12 Triangle of Sadness 12.437 164 76 332.201 3.184.162 -42 7 13 Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris 11.685 330 35 104.732 969.051 -48 3 14 Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile 11.586 427 27 354.023 2.605.666 -54 6 After some good weekends, this one was an unmitigated disaster - steep drops plus weak openers. Nobody was expecting much from Strange World but I would have bet on 100k at least - ouch. With the championship in background, some drops were expected, but family releases didn't fare too well either - no good news here, so on to Next weekend: Sadly, no big releases again … Call Jane and Violent Night will not set the BO on fire; at least some longrunners are back on the big screen with a few more shows - Tog Gun Maverick and Minions 2 get a lot of additional slots next weekend. Will probably not be enough to save the weekend from becoming another disaster.

difficult to be sure but at first glance, we're already seeing the impact of the championship ... male-oriented releases are suffering much harder drops than the ones targeting family ore females. for cinema's sake, let's hope Germany drops out of the tournament asap!

early estimates for Germany's wekend from insidekino.de: #1: BP2 - 160k (-47%) #2: EmwS - 100k (-18%, wom seems good) #3/4: Menu or Strange World, 55k each

opening day for Strange World at my cinema and it's not looking good ... in fact, horrible.

Germany's Top18 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 2 298.852 614 487 917.600 10.672.127 -32 2 2 Einfach mal was Schönes 121.146 641 189 166.655 1.575.008 - 1 3 Rheingold 90.978 412 221 809.212 8.170.035 -40 4 4 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 75.855 727 104 2.219.499 16.260.152 -11 8 5 The Menu 68.338 295 232 68.338 656.572 - 1 6 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 67.519 656 103 332.292 2.582.171 -13 3 7 Der Nachname 43.569 650 67 679.076 6.403.802 -39 5 8 Black Adam 35.910 394 91 956.226 9.391.160 -43 5 9 Teddybjørnens jul 30.757 370 83 30.830 231.156 - 1 10 Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile 25.355 478 53 340.922 2.516.964 -21 5 11 Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris 22.293 326 68 81.974 761.875 -35 2 12 Triangle of Sadness 21.397 184 116 311.179 2.980.397 -18 6 13 Smile 20.091 309 65 1.285.967 11.929.069 -44 8 14 The Magic Flute 19.185 300 64 20.066 179.857 - 1 15 Die Mucklas und wie sie zu Pettersson und … 16.624 431 39 205.123 1.470.993 -17 5 16 Prey For The Devil 11.079 216 51 84.833 775.774 -44 3 17 Ticket to Paradise 10.306 242 43 1.208.583 11.213.914 -48 10 18 Listy do M. 5 10.175 81 126 10.175 115.718 - 1 A lot of releases >10k admissions, that's one of the good news - a strong domestic lineup (5 from the Top 7) the other. Einfach mal was Schönes opened within, The Menu above expectations and The Magic Flute is an outright flop. Black Panther 2 had a good drop; Rheingold a bit steeper but 1mil total should still be possible. In Austria, the weekend was similar with Einfach mal was Schönes doing worse, The Magic Flute better than in Germany. Next weekend: The big opener will be Strange Worlds which should make #2 even if presales are more or less non-existent …

Saturday update even better for BP2, sadly the Magic Flute is flopping hard (it's doing a bit better here in Austria from what I see). But the surprise success of the weekend is The Menu; the black comedy is doing much better than expected, nice!

Germany's Top16 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 2 436.724 605 722 510.990 5.998.861 - 1 2 Rheingold 150.516 408 369 671.872 6.787.957 -24 3 3 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 85.459 775 110 2.124.309 15.560.533 -49 7 4 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 77.385 622 124 248.225 1.941.869 -42 2 5 Der Nachname 71.254 717 99 611.298 5.761.346 -34 4 6 Black Adam 62.607 518 121 905.833 8.920.786 -59 4 7 Smile 36.167 385 94 1.260.296 11.680.612 -45 7 8 Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris 34.352 320 107 40.693 377.729 - 1 9 Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile 32.179 572 56 308.642 2.282.200 -48 4 10 Triangle of Sadness 26.200 204 128 276.904 2.649.114 -24 5 11 Amsterdam 21.510 341 63 80.118 777.749 -53 2 12 Die Mucklas und wie sie zu Petterson und … 20.113 509 40 183.864 1.320.632 -45 4 13 Prey For The Devil 19.723 240 82 69.847 632.081 -35 2 14 Ticket to Paradise 19.676 358 55 1.191.469 11.054.100 -45 9 15 Mittagsstunde 8.635 244 35 271.688 2.427.123 -15 8 16 Minions 2 7.925 223 36 4.133.980 35.183.361 -52 20 Big opener Black Panther: Wakanda Forever stayed within expectations, sadly nearly all holdovers suffered harsh drops, so the general uptick in business I was expecting didn't materialise. Still, four domestic releases in the Top5, that's something to cherish! In Austria, very similar numbers (Rheingold with an increase so it's now on Germany's level) - btw, in Austria, Ticket to Paradise has crossed 200k admissions, very nice run and another case of Austria far outgrossing Germany! Next weekend: No really big releases but romcom Einfach mal was Schönes might become #2 and further strengthen the dominance of domestic releases! And as a dark horse, The Magic Flute is seeking an audience - it's a pretty unusual and bold concept, let's hope it doesn't flop, I'm always for leaving the trodden path!

Saturday update a bit better for all releases, but mainly Rheingold and Wakanda. Let's hope numbers keep getting better!

Black Adam's demise was to be expected, but I'm a bit sad about the other releases' drops. Ok, family movies were profiting from holidays last week, but what about Rheingold or Nachname?

First estimates from insidekino.de: #1: Black Panther 2 - 425k admissions incl. Wed, that's lower than I hoped #2: Rheingold - 140k #3: Hui Buh - 80k #4/5: DSdmT 2 and Nachname - 65k each #6: Black Adam - 50k

Germany's Top16 last weekend: title admisisons th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Rheingold 197.058 349 565 467.698 4.714.258 +15 2 2 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 167.212 807 207 2.027.923 14.851.339 +21 6 3 Black Adam 152.934 619 247 823.386 8.122.247 -23 3 4 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 132.703 597 222 159.930 1.254.152 - 1 5 Der Nachname 108.119 709 152 509.631 4.823.190 -6 3 6 Smile 66.209 487 136 1.212.914 11.225.975 -40 6 7 Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile 62.028 599 104 271.827 2.012.077 +16 3 8 Amsterdam 45.951 363 127 45.951 453.550 - 1 9 Die Mucklas und wie sie .. 36.841 537 69 161.153 1.160.072 +38 3 10 Ticket to Paradise 35.945 432 83 1.162.535 10.779.320 -9 8 11 Triangle of Sadness 34.317 200 172 238.162 2.271.424 +0 4 12 Prey for the Devil 30.495 240 127 44.310 389.746 - 1 13 Halloween Ends 29.338 397 74 464.536 4.463.841 -63 4 14 Minions 2 16.457 285 58 4.124.847 35.112.948 +12 19 - MET: La Traviata 16.382 194 84 16.382 491.464 - 1 15 Sevmedim Deme 11.197 54 207 41.964 413.313 -10 3 16 Mittagsstunde 10.212 257 40 256.770 2.302.967 -4 7 Good all-around weekend with a strong domestic lineup; even if there's no blockbuster these are satisfying numbers. Rheingold - still not in very wide release - is developing into a domestic hit, and Schule der magischen Tiere 2 has sailed past part 1 and crossed 2mil admisisons with ease, unfazed by the opening of Hui Buh (which is not to be considered a sequel I think; the first adaption was too long ago for the target age but counted >2mil admissions in its time). In Austria, similar numbers (Rheingold not nearly as strong though) - and good news from the longrunners; it's not yet official but Top Gun Maverick has crossed 600k admissions - the "Platinum Ticket", while Guglhupfgeschwader earned itself a "Golden Ticket" with 300k. Fantastic numbers! Next weekend: There's little doubt that the 2nd Black Panther movie will open to #1, hopefully around 500k. No other big openers, so holdovers (with the exception of Black Adam) should not be hit too hard and there will be a general uptick in business.

Saturday update from insidekino.de has everything up a bit, 5 releases >100k, among them 4 domestic ones - cool! Even if a blockbuster is missing, it's good to see so many different movies finding their audiences.

Excellent for Rheingold - it had an expansion, so PTA dropping a bit steeper, but #1 is still a big surprise for this production! As to the kiddie movies - my son is >30, so you might say I'm a bit out of touch (at least until great-children arrive someday), but I had thought Hui Buh would be targeted at a pretty similar age group as Schule der magischen Tiere, so it's surprising for me that both are co-existing so fine! I suppose holidays are playing a bit part here?

Germany's Top16 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Adam 197.746 596 332 574.450 5.672.231 -26 2 2 Rheingold 171.553 247 695 173.162 1.743.364 - 1 3 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 138.342 827 167 1.764.060 12.926.834 -28 5 4 Der Nachname 114.885 660 174 330.474 3.134.388 -15 2 5 Smile 109.651 513 214 1.084.704 10.005.382 -26 5 6 Halloween Ends 79.419 492 161 382.450 3.680.877 -8 3 7 Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile 53.428 580 92 172.481 1.280.783 -24 2 8 Ticket to Paradise 39.380 515 76 1.102.385 10.202.281 -33 7 9 Triangle of Sadness 34.170 199 172 180.609 1.708.344 -24 3 10 Die Mucklas und wie sie ... 26.661 537 50 104.119 752.111 -36 2 11 Bros 15.341 346 44 29.413 238.346 - 1 12 Minions 2 14.684 364 40 4.096.671 34.897.551 -23 18 13 Sevmedim Deme 12.417 44 282 23.695 238.333 +54 2 14 Bodies Bodies Bodies 11.990 200 60 25.002 182.407 - 1 15 See How They Run 11.336 106 107 11.336 102.772 - 1 16 Mittagsstunde 10.612 264 40 235.906 2.119.463 -35 6 Good weekend, especially domestic releases on #2, #3 and #4! In Austria, results were a bit different - Halloween Ends much stronger, while Rheingold has gotten only a very limited release (sensibly I think, the biopic wouldn't generate much interest here). Next weekend: No big openers, among them Prey for the Devil which gets a late halloween start for whatever reason, and a release for the very young - Hui Buh und das Schlossgespenst. With school holidays and cool weather in some parts of Germany, there should be some good weekdays, especially for family releases.