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On 3/14/2023 at 12:35 PM, IndustriousAngel said:
the biggest opener should be the second Shazam! movie, #3 should be possible.
going by my cinema, #3 will be out of reach ... this is selling so bad atm I'd be surprised if it makes even the Top5
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Germany's Top20 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Creed 3
247.061
532
464
736.464
7.424.738
-40
2
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Sonne und Beton
203.573
442
461
476.419
4.549.089
+12
2
3
Scream 6
122.631
442
277
137.651
1.520.810
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1
4
Avatar 2
78.833
423
186
9.924.959
135.056.391
-20
13
5
Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen
64.720
722
90
1.311.832
10.111.162
-15
7
6
Ant-Man 3
62.134
455
137
833.804
9.493.693
-41
4
7
Moomios
52.992
599
88
302.222
2.274.905
-4
4
8
Tár
50.970
155
329
153.030
1.582.596
-15
2
9
The Fabelmans
46.932
341
138
48.516
513.863
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1
10
65
46.799
332
141
46.799
459.059
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1
11
Wann wird es endlich wieder so, wie es nie war
44.443
279
159
210.881
1.938.397
-16
3
12
Puss in Boots 2
37.853
468
81
2.047.762
17.092.385
-5
12
13
Magic Mike 3
30.280
344
88
544.012
5.230.983
-38
5
14
Demon Slayer - To the Swordsmith Village
27.509
276
100
98.336
1.239.443
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1
15
The Amazing Maurice
20.848
483
43
207.089
1.569.061
-8
5
16
A Man Called Otto
19.224
425
45
373.320
3.570.426
-34
6
17
Le Chêne
16.917
141
120
20.988
177.568
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1
18
Lucy ist jetzt Gangster
16.232
373
44
38.786
278.285
-6
2
19
Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2
15.424
279
55
2.776.872
20.301.053
+5
24
20
Plane
14.551
189
77
261.485
2.463.190
-20
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Pretty good weekend, with Scream 6 a good opener (for the franchise) and some fantastic holds - Sonne und Beton might make it to 1mil total, and family films in general did well. Sadly, Creed 3 nearly had the steepest drop, didn't expect that after last weekend - still, a big success, after 2 weekends already more admissions than the prior Creed movies! The steepest drop, btw, was Ant-Man 3's, that release just can't catch a breath after the ok opening.
In Austria, once more, the weekend was much better. Domestic comedy Griechenland was back on #1 (already >150k admissions after 3 weekends, might reach blockbuster status), Creed 3 dropped nearly as steep as in Germany but was still close to 30k and Scream 6 opened much stronger (>20k for the 4day weekend); 65 opened stronger, too, while Fabelmans was on Germany's level. The only movie doing much worse than in Germany was (again) Sonne und Beton which has a hard time finding an audience in Austria!
Next weekend: One more domestic comedy, Der Pfau, might see some success (maybe top5?) but the biggest opener should be the second Shazam! movie, #3 should be possible. It will be interesting if Sonne und Beton can finally reach #1 on its 3rd weekend!
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sadly, Fabelmans is flopping everywhere ... otherwise, fine weekend, Creed3 should do better than first estimates and S&B is in fact holding extremely well in Germany, as does Griechenland in Austria. Scream6 seems a bit frontloaded, at least at my cinema.
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first weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany:
#1: Creed 3 - 225k admissions (-45%, steeper than I expected)
#2: Sonne und Beton - 175k (-3%, wow - sleeper hit incoming?)
#3: Scream 6 - 155k (very good for this franchise)
#4: Avatar 23 - 67,5k (-32%)
#5: Ant-Man 3 - 60k (-43%)
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Germany's Top 20 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Creed 3
411.581
446
923
411.581
4.147.829
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2
Sonne und Beton
181.458
412
440
196.742
1.911.066
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1
3
Ant-Man 3
105.969
595
178
747.826
8.615.108
-41
3
4
Avatar 2
98.914
455
217
9.822.495
133.625.422
-30
12
5
Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen
75.796
733
103
1.235.365
9.523.234
-39
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Tár
60.049
146
411
68.430
711.022
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1
7
Moomios
55.237
552
100
238.436
1.796.469
-32
3
8
Wann wird es endlich wieder so, wie es nie war
53.038
219
242
142.302
1.314.308
-10
2
9
Magic Mike 3
48.543
494
98
496.364
4.769.555
-32
4
10
Puss in Boots 2
40.041
505
79
2.002.899
16.724.245
-33
11
11
A Man Called Otto
28.930
488
59
342.910
3.290.962
-35
5
12
Missing
27.758
231
120
79.583
762.847
-35
2
13
The Amazing Maurice
22.618
546
41
182.237
1.387.056
-40
4
14
Plane
18.280
278
66
243.432
2.326.424
-35
5
15
Lucy ist jetzt Gangster
17.275
343
50
18.496
133.755
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1
16
What's Love Got to Do with It?
16.939
322
53
77.332
696.337
-46
2
17
Perfect Addiction
15.639
380
41
130.691
1.244.903
-48
3
18
Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2
14.706
279
53
2.759.855
20.177.719
-30
23
19
Der Räuber Hotzenplotz
10.862
282
39
953.177
6.791.092
-30
13
20
The Banshees of Inisherin
8.679
214
41
393.145
3.628.082
9
Cool weekend thanks to three strong openers - the success of Creed 3 is the surprise of the year (so far), more than doubling the predecessor's OW … as mentioned, with the way it gained momentum over the weekend, I can see this getting to 1,5mil total. Also good openings with healthy PTA for Sonne und Beton and arthousy Tár. Puss in Boots 2 has now crossed 2mil total, fine number after the lukewarm opening.
Pretty different results in Austria, Creed 3 was even stronger (>50k for the 4-day WE), but on #2 domestic comedy Griechenland with a good hold, should be >100k total by now (already 2 domestic releases over this mark in 2023, fine!) while Sonne und Beton didn't generate much business, it'a more of a northern-Germany theme so no surprise. Moomios and Maurice otoh were twice as strong as in Germany!
Next weekend: Scream 6 and The Fabelmans should become the biggest openers but #1 seems unreachable for both and even #2 difficult if Sonne und Beton doesn't crumble. But it seems Avatar2 pulled movie-going back into the general perception, and with those releases widening the audience gamut even more, we might see a very strong overall weekend, even without any new blockbuster!
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Creed3 is getting higher and higher ... according to insidekino.de, 410k until Sunday! With the way this kept growing over the weekend, 1mil should be locked and 1,5mil or even higher possible, WOM seems excellent! Nice surprise there.
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Sunday update from insidekino.de, it's getting better and better:
#1: Creed 3 - 390k
#2: Sonne und Beton - 170k
#3: Ant-Man 3 - 105k
#4: Avatar 2 - 95k
#5: ??? - 70k
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Saturday update from insidekino.de - Creed3 MUCH higher now, 350k - wow, wow (and it's doing at least as well in Austria)
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1 minute ago, upriser7 said:
Is the A2's projected drop mainly due to loss of screens to the new openers ?
Thursday was pretty bad for Avatar compared to a week ago so I guess that's the main base for the projection
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ok weekend incoming, first estimates from insidekino.de:
#1: Creed 3 - 275k admissions
#2: Sonne und Beton - 225k
#3: Ant-Man 3 - 100k (another steep drop, ugh)
#4: Avatar 2 - 80k
#5: ??? - 60k
only 3 (if at all) releases >100k but at least the openers did better than expected! (Tar also opening in the 60k range)
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2 hours ago, Taruseth said:
I think there is a chance for Ant-Man to drop below Avatar on the coming weekend.
definitely!
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Germany's Top18 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Ant-Man 3
178.107
590
302
608.722
7.081.498
-37
2
2
Avatar 2
140.453
491
286
9.697.124
131.878.782
-7
11
3
Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen
125.067
746
168
1.150.529
8.867.358
+8
5
4
Moomios
81.203
508
160
177.278
1.335.168
+23
2
5
Magic Mike 3
70.866
574
123
425.725
4.087.418
-11
3
6
Puss in Boots 2
60.125
553
109
1.958.479
1.958.479
+4
10
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Wann wird es endlich wieder so, wie es nie war
58.955
163
208
62.036
583.164
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1
8
A Man Called Otto
44.403
507
88
300.959
2.893.320
-17
4
9
Missing
42.907
225
191
42.907
416.789
-
1
10
The Amazing Maurice
37.512
509
74
156.564
1.197.545
+10
3
11
What's Love Got to Do with It?
31.158
330
94
50.743
442.907
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1
12
Perfect Addiction
30.104
391
77
107.497
1.026.378
-32
2
13
Plane
28.150
328
86
220.676
2.114.770
-18
4
14
Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2
20.931
308
68
2.743.680
20.062.167
+22
22
15
Der Räuber Hotzenplotz
15.600
316
49
941.255
6.715.234
+9
12
16
The Banshees of Inisherin
13.258
177
75
379.250
3.506.447
-9
8
17
Umami
10.809
147
74
72.715
626.182
-35
3
18
Heojil Kyolshim
10.214
108
95
87.891
833.935
-27
4
An ok weekend with disappointing openers (with the exception of the domestic dramedy on #7) and strong family releases. Not in the Chart: Disney Channel's Mitmachkino which would have made #3 this weekend …
In Austria, the weekend was much better, mostly thanks to a strong domestic comedy on #1 - Griechenland - with (by now) >50k admissions; Ant-Man 3 was >20k too, so #2 here was stronger than Germany's #1.
Next weekend: No relly big openers again; the strongest domestic crime adaption Sonne und Beton and Creed 3. Also opening: Tar, might attract some business thanks to the awards nominations - keeping the fingers crossed for best editing (Monika Willi, she's been my classmate for 7 years back in "high school")
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actuals tomorrow but seems like a 37% drop for Ant-Man 3 while ??? even had an increase ... while it should become the bestselling Ant-Man movie without problems, that's still a bit disappointing.
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family movies strong this weekend but overall business not good ...
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early weekend estimates fron insidekino.de - with weather turning cool and no big opener, perfect for holdovers:
#1: Ant-Man 3 - 200k (-30%, ouch)
#2: Avatar2 - 140k (-8%)
#3: ??? - 125k (+8%, looks like 1,5mil total are possible)
#4/5: Moomios - 75k (+13%), MagicMike3 75k (-5%)
Ant-Man's drop has me concerned ... dropping 30% when other releases are having such excellent holds cannot be a good sign.
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1 hour ago, Issac Newton said:
Gestern hat DIE DREI ??? - ERBE DES DRACHEN als erster Film des Jahres die 1 Mio. Besucher-Marke geknackt!
??? became the 1st Film to cross 1M admits.
that's pretty good - 1mil total is about what all those bestseller adaptions for this age group are aiming for and ??? has still got a few 100k in its tank (1.3-1.4mil in the end), so definitely a success and a sequel (though not greenlit yet afaik but the director is looking forwards to it, according to an interview)!
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Germany's Top18 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
1
Ant-Man 3
283.557
576
492
345.362
4.105.049
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2
Avatar 2
151.492
577
263
9.504.149
129.229.385
-27
10
3
Die drei ???
115.790
724
160
967.392
7.493.154
-23
4
4
Magic Mike 3
79.276
555
143
322.747
3.099.825
-28
2
5
Moomios
66.244
461
144
66.244
513.789
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1
6
Puss in Boots 2
57.792
598
97
1.872.927
15.680.560
-25
9
7
A Man Called Otto
53.200
449
118
237.482
2.282.983
-7
3
8
Perfect Addiction
44.062
332
112
60.444
584.666
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1
9
Titanic 3D
39.194
164
239
152.329
1.956.116
-25
2
10
Plane
34.186
396
86
184.881
1.769.892
-30
3
11
The Amazing Maurice
33.958
485
70
104.834
816.743
-38
2
12
Knock at the Cabin
18.548
315
59
80.294
730.219
-46
2
13
Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2
17.226
304
57
2.714.633
19.853.430
-16
21
14
Umami
16.553
146
113
55.380
470.877
-25
2
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The Banshees of Inisherin
14.647
182
80
358.461
3.322.168
-21
7
16
Der Räuber Hotzenplotz
14.260
396
36
918.603
6.565.893
-22
11
17
Heojil Kyolshim
14.077
110
128
71.745
680.610
-13
3
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Caveman
11.103
454
24
205.554
1.897.075
-55
4
Boring weekend … Ant-Man 3 opened higher than Ant-Man 2 but won't become a big hit, either. Avatar 2 is now the highest-grossing film in Germany ever, fine. And Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 continues to collect tickets, week after week … that drop is probably the most surprising number this weekend!
In Austria, Ant-Man opened higher (has already crossed 50k total on Monday).
Next weekend: What's Love Got to Do with It? should become the biggest opener, maybe enough for #3?
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so, Ant-Man 3 clearly below 300k for the 4-day weekend ... still the strongest OW for an Ant-Man movie so far, but the latest Marvel releases all seemed a bit frontloaded; I guess there's a certain fanbase by now by they never really caught on with the general public.
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43 minutes ago, LPLC said:
It will surpass 10M without re-release, but does someone know why Titanic is expected to have 0% drop ?
maybe spillover from Valentine's (where it was the most popular choice)?
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7 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
hows 10 million in the first run looking? If its close will disney do expansions to get it over the line or is that just something they do in the dom market?
I don't know about Disney but in Austria, distributors and theaters made such late-run-cheap-ticket weeks for last year's Maverick and Guglhupfgeschwader to push them above 600k resp. 300k.
So, I can really see Disney pushing this to get some headlines - of course, in the long rune, with re-release before A3, it will surpass this number with ease anyway.
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Germany's Top20 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Avatar 2
207.770
567
366
9.289.004
126.240.678
-34
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Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen
151.128
710
213
813.319
6.306.018
-34
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Magic Mike 3
110.118
538
205
186.641
1.791.482
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1
4
Puss in Boots 2
77.059
656
117
1.792.001
15.022.690
-38
8
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A Man Called Otto
57.291
377
152
161.773
1.553.287
-15
2
6
The Amazing Maurice
54.519
459
119
55.340
438.435
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1
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Titanic
52.403
167
314
52.403
694.965
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1
8
Plane
48.663
394
124
136.216
1.310.740
-32
2
9
Knock at the Cabin
34.605
344
101
47.642
422.255
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1
10
Winterabenteuer mit Pettersson und Findu
28.706
256
112
52.868
237.448
+22
2
11
Caveman
24.761
588
42
185.090
1.711.239
-46
3
12
Umami
22.119
142
156
29.106
241.896
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1
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M3GAN
20.501
329
62
423.864
4.128.903
-53
5
14
Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2
20.408
344
59
2.689.055
19.678.145
-31
20
15
The Banshees of Inisherin
18.623
181
103
335.576
3.116.253
-34
6
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Der Räuber Hotzenplotz
18.312
499
37
897.857
6.430.039
-52
10
17
Heojil Kyolshim
16.164
89
182
50.441
474.852
-20
2
18
Babylon
15.031
196
77
185.151
2.060.336
-51
4
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Shotgun Wedding
10.268
253
41
189.690
1.757.169
-63
4
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Women Talking
8.343
86
97
8.673
79.731
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While there were a lot of releases >10k admissions, nothing really stood out … with so many openers, I was hoping for an uptick in Business but instead we saw drops. Overall, boring numbers …
In Austria, Avatar and Magic Mike on #1 and #3 as in Germany but Maurice was #2 here.
Next weekend: The 3rd Ant-Man movie is grabbing the big screens and should finish Avatar's run of won weekends - well, 9 times #1 is ok I'd say! But I don't believe Ant-Man will set the BO on fire … presales look pretty low atm and anything above 400k Wed-Sun would surprise me very much. Also opening: Perfect Addiction for the teenie crowd, maybe a good opening week thanks to the Valentine's rush, and Spanish family CGI movie Moomios (the market for kids is pretty full atm I'd say but with holidays in more and more regions, maybe room enough for one more).
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27 minutes ago, el sid said:
The second trend:
#1 Avatar - The Way of Water 200k
#2 Die drei ??? - Erbe des Drachen 150k
#3 Magic Mike - The Last Dance 200k
#4 Puss in Boots: The Last Wish 85k
#5 Titanic 57.5k
#6 A Man Called Otto 57.5k
#7 Maurice der Kater 55k
#8 Plane 50k
#9 Knock at the Cabin 50kat least a good hold for Otto ... but overall business is behind my expectations, none of the openers is breaking out
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1 hour ago, Samwise the Brave said:
But isn't the actual weekend of Magic Mike at 110k? And Avatar at 200k, so it's an easy win for Avatar or is it not? Tbh i wouldn't count the previews
that's what I meant, actual weekend should be quite a bit higher than 110k - not enough I guess but it's getting closer than expected
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seems like Magic Mike is still fighting for the weekend crown ... good numbers, let's wait for updated estimates!
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sadly, everything down from firste estimates ... don't know about all of Germany but here in Austria, it's outdoors weather, beautiful spring days ... bad news for the BO!