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Early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany:
#1: Paw Patrol 2 - 325k (a bit behind the first but no wonder with the nice weather, those movies collect their total over a long run anyway)
#2: The Nun 2 - 160k (-32%, that would be a very nice drop)
#3: The Creator - 110k, ok I'd say
#4: Wochenendrebellen - 100k, good
So, possibly all three wide openers in the 6-digit-range, that would be awesome (hadn't seen that coming for Wochenendrebellen, presales didn't look strong - those kind of movies tend to be very leggy)
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Germany's Top18 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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The Nun 2
234.359
464
505
262.527
2.774.338
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A Haunting in Venice
72.193
507
142
178.174
1.775.414
-8
2
3
The Equalizer 3
71.153
570
125
681.289
6.269.087
-24
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4
Barbie
64.295
732
88
5.744.505
53.276.039
-15
10
5
The Expendables 4
63.096
504
125
67.818
698.711
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6
Oppenheimer
50.641
541
94
3.915.639
44.565.409
-9
10
7
Rehragout Rendezvous
33.737
404
84
1.408.760
13.089.260
+0
7
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Les Choses Simples
31.015
155
200
49.395
403.889
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1
9
Elemental
30.522
507
60
1.924.872
15.292.041
+16
14
10
Enkel für Fortgeschrittene
23.075
590
39
142.116
1.102.157
-7
3
11
Fallende Blätter
18.774
124
151
57.122
512.113
+2
2
12
Meg 2
17.811
281
63
1.064.958
10.898.320
-30
8
13
Ponyherz - Wild und frei
17.130
546
31
165.735
1.188.879
+22
5
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Weißt du noch
16.644
159
105
19.866
182.885
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Retribution
16.496
287
57
75.812
610.617
-36
2
16
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
16.489
367
45
1.228.622
9.481.170
+26
12
17
Trauzeugen
14.842
375
40
57.295
473.867
-21
2
18
Gran Turismo
10.216
228
45
372.181
3.523.403
-24
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An ok weekend, at least we had 18 releases >10k admissions, so a wide selection, and Nun 2 opened within expectations. Expendables 4 however just awful … among holdovers, family releases increased, Elemental should definitely reach that 2mil milestone - who would have thought after the lukewarm opening? And among domestic releases, Rehragout Rendezvous is now officially the biggest seller in the series (as was to be expected after the strong opening).
In Austria, a similar chart but with overall higher numbers, Nun 2 should make at least 100k total here; on #2 we had a kiddie movie and Rehragout will become the biggest seller of the series in Austria, too (which was a higher goal since the last one made the Golden Ticket wirh a litte over 300k admissions). Expendables 4 flopped less hard than in Germany but still only #4 …
Next weekend: We should see a very different chart, with three medium-to-big openers entering the market. Paw Patrol 2 seems like a sure hit after the first one crossed 1,5mil total, it should win the weekend with ease. The Creator, presales look like a six-digit OW. And domestic family dramedy Wochenendrebellen (a book adaption) seems like the type of movie with maybe not that big an OW but good legs.
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final estimates a little higher for all releases, fine (still awful OW for Expendables 4 ...)
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early weekend estimates from insidekino.de show, indeed, both openers on #1 and #2:
#1: The Nun 2 - 225k admissions
#2: Expendables 4 - 65k (it was struggling in presales but this is worse than expected)
#3: Equalizer 3 - 62k
Given the way it's selling, I wouldn't be surprised if Expendables will come in behind Equalizer in actuals ... overall, Nun2 doing ok and saving the weekendd a bit while holdovers fail to profit from the bad weather it seems.
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what a tedious, boring movie ... stretching the lean revenge script (which might have served for an ok 1-hour-actioner) to Fellowship-of-the-Ring length was a terrible idea, and as a whole I was not sure if this was supposed to be some kind of self-spoof or taken seriously (but given the running time, I suspect the latter).
CGI was too over-the-top too, but that's just my personal taste; most of those HDR scenes seemed like taken out from some shooter game - maybe I'm too old for that kind of aestethics.
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Germany's Top15 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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The Equalizer 3
93.220
615
152
580.212
5.258.446
-50
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A Haunting in Venice
78.215
437
179
78.215
798.005
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Barbie
75.420
778
97
5.651.877
52.420.348
-57
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4
Oppenheimer
55.685
615
91
3.840.734
43.730.275
-59
9
5
Rehragout Rendezvous
33.623
508
66
1.362.543
12.657.357
-47
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Elemental
26.415
520
51
1.889.071
15.022.288
-59
13
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Retribution
25.665
278
92
52.217
388.096
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Meg 2
25.528
359
71
1.041.553
10.655.368
-63
7
9
Enkel für Fortgeschrittene
24.914
585
43
105.701
783.189
-50
2
10
Trauzeugen
18.821
372
51
33.270
255.576
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1
11
Fallende Blätter
18.317
121
151
24.828
222.357
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1
12
Ponyherz
14.001
557
25
145.641
1.043.965
-32
4
13
Gran Turismo
13.510
271
50
358.885
3.390.313
-62
6
14
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
13.114
402
33
1.209.901
9.343.844
-52
11
15
Jawan
10.906
89
123
42.054
602.049
-51
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From the nice Kinofest numbers back to business as usual (or rather, even worse than usual) - not a single release with >100k admissions, and not even arthousy releases had a decent PTA.
In Austria, numbers were only a little better (but we had a different #1, A Haunting in Venice ahead of Equalizer 3).
Next weekend: Two attractive releases - The Expendables 4 and The Nun 2 - should reanimate the BO a bit; presales for Nun 2 look ok while Expendables seems to be struggling. Still, a new #1/#2 combo seems possible. As a bonus, weather is predicted to be much less sunny, so hopefully we'll see some increases or at least excellent holds from holdovers.
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Germany's Top20 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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The Equalizer 3
188.108
582
323
447.394
3.899.459
-9
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Barbie
176.263
846
208
5.536.836
51.338.842
-2
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3
Oppenheimer
135.093
699
193
3.753.850
42.759.216
+10
8
4
Meg 2
68.316
438
156
1.006.476
10.283.683
+11
6
5
Elemental
65.157
531
123
1.856.987
14.766.799
+27
12
6
Rehragout Rendezvous
63.397
630
101
1.309.441
12.166.207
-38
5
7
Enkel für Fortgeschrittene
49.753
576
86
65.068
419.679
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1
8
Gran Turismo
35.307
333
106
339.797
3.194.680
+12
5
9
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
27.127
455
60
1.194.481
9.222.779
+12
10
10
Jawan
22.227
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22.227
322.024
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1
11
Ponyherz - Wild und frei
20.665
601
34
127.809
911.480
-29
3
12
Mission: Impossible 7.1
18.359
262
70
1.233.196
13.752.698
+13
9
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The Super Mario Bros. Movie
16.734
290
58
5.274.254
51.456.896
+309
23
14
TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
16.258
337
48
298.373
2.390.336
-4
6
15
Strays
15.555
367
42
59.419
468.311
-37
2
16
My Big Fat Greek Wedding 3
15.386
216
71
15.386
90.307
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1
17
Talk to Me
14.176
145
98
141.045
1.266.174
+125
7
18
Blue Beetle
12.961
224
58
114.761
1.009.524
-10
4
19
Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
11.179
541
21
521.501
3.820.190
-30
7
20
Sophia, der Tod und ich
10.736
146
74
52.908
453.511
-50
2
Thanks to the Kinofest with cheap tickets, excellent holds (and increases for family movies, even Mario Bros. back in the charts) despite summery weather! It's rare to have 20 releases >10k at this point. Openers were disappointing, though … in Austria, without the Kinofest, numbers were much lower.
Next weekend: The biggest opener should be Branagh's 3rd Poirot adaption, A Haunting in Venice - maybe 3rd place is possible? No big other openers so holdovers should be fine, however, without Kinofest, expect some steep drops.
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1 hour ago, George Parr said:
Enkel für Fortgeschrittene 65k (maybe this one is supposed to be 55k?
the 65k would probably include previews
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2 hours ago, noeliam said:
Is it Kinofest weekend this weekend with €5 tickets?
Yep, you're right! Is it really 5€? that would be nice and will push admissions a bit.
Here in Tyrol we have our own "Kinofest"; it's the last September weekend but tickets are still €7,50 - wtf?! I mean, why bother with this little discount and not go the Germany way with 5€ tickets?! Really silly.
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Germany's Top16 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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The Equalizer 3
206.793
560
369
206.793
2.206.349
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Barbie
179.411
866
207
5.294.120
49.656.078
-35
7
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Oppenheimer
122.983
733
168
3.578.457
41.456.288
-31
7
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Rehragout Rendezvous
102.636
676
152
1.205.377
11.356.405
-41
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5
Meg 2
61.438
438
140
924.464
9.732.326
-30
5
6
Elemental
51.147
549
93
1.783.962
14.350.233
-18
11
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Gran Turismo
31.535
382
83
295.643
2.898.987
-29
4
8
Ponyherz - Wild und frei
29.162
571
51
99.993
748.566
-29
2
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Strays
24.501
382
64
37.708
319.613
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1
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Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
24.276
483
50
1.163.024
9.049.789
-20
9
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Sophia, der Tod und ich
21.518
139
155
31.597
197.563
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1
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TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
16.933
379
45
279.019
2.282.285
-26
5
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Mission: Impossible 7.1
16.261
229
71
1.208.628
13.564.533
-37
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Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
16.015
583
27
506.477
3.734.655
-36
6
15
Blue Beetle
14.449
334
43
97.926
905.418
-44
3
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Past Lives
13.913
111
125
91.234
821.633
-34
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Ok weekend with four 6-digit-releases - Equalizer 3 with an excellent opening, quite a bit bigger than I expected, whils Strays flopped even harder than expected. Barbie, Oppenheimer and especially Elemental with good holds once more, while Rehragout dropped a bit steeper - still on its way to become the bestselling entry in this series!
In Austria, also all Top4 with >10k admissions, but different positions: Barbie led in front of Rehragout, Equalizer3 and Oppenheimer.
Next weekend: With summery weather predicted, expect steeper drops; no big openers but domestic comedy Enkel für Fortgeschrittene might make the Top5 (in Germany). My Big Fat Greek Wedding 3 is also opening, presales are there but nothing special. Releasing two comedies about families on the same weekend might not have been the best idea but the demo has been a bit neglected so maybe both can survive.
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Germany's Top18 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
277.010
897
309
4.979.345
46.716.593
+3
6
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Oppenheimer
179.027
721
248
3.367.456
39.035.595
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6
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Rehragout- Rendezvous
173.435
679
255
1.005.225
9.511.148
+3
3
4
Meg 2
87.285
463
189
829.290
8.745.599
-3
4
5
Elemental
62.492
555
113
1.707.023
13.765.559
+49
10
6
Gran Turismo
44.290
452
98
242.849
2.374.201
-3
3
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Ponyherz - Wild und frei
40.976
539
76
49.856
372.283
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Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
30.224
523
58
1.126.101
8.772.635
+16
8
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Blue Beetle
25.919
352
74
73.107
685.622
-22
2
10
Mission: Impossible 7.1
25.860
283
91
1.180.374
13.248.256
-11
7
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Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
25.184
583
43
474.481
3.507.655
+32
5
12
TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
23.027
412
56
253.628
2.088.671
+13
4
13
Past Lives
20.990
99
212
63.945
572.662
+0
2
14
The Last Voyage of the Demeter
17.021
255
67
56.304
504.252
-20
2
15
Indiana Jones 5
10.858
221
49
1.347.816
14.645.439
-21
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Kandahar
10.833
234
46
36.355
322.389
-16
2
17
Jeanne du Barry
10.115
88
115
10.564
98.310
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1
18
Joy Ride
9.727
205
47
19.030
153.276
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Worse weather lead to a BO recovery - Barbie on its way to maybe 6mil total, Rehragout crossed 1mil, Meg2 is looking good for 1mil too and Elemental is still strong, 2mil maybe still possible. Openers were poor, girl-horse adaption Ponyherz doing maybe half of what such movies usually make on OW, and Jeanne du Barry with a so-so PTA despite the limited release.
In Austria, similar numbers (a bit worse maybe) except for Rehragout which still leads the chart and should already be near 200k total.
Next weekend: Two wide openers - Equalizer 3 with a slight chance at #2 I'd say; a 6-digit-OW should be possibly anyway. Strays (locally titled "Doggy Style") - no idea, Germans sometimes like those crude comedies but presales look really poor in this case, everything >50k would be a success I guess.
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11 hours ago, Poseidon said:
Elemental might still cross the 2m admissions mark.
In Austria, it's a bit ahead, by now at approx. 225k total with a slight chance at 250k but an excellent chance of beating Incredibles2 (236.800 admissions, #10 in 2018 which was overall a really bad year but had 8 "Golden Tickets")
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37 minutes ago, nox said:
So Barbie stayed flat from last weekend?
most releases were more or less flat - worse weather and no openers worth mentioning, that's pretty common in German summers. Family releases might even show healthy increases.
Overall, a not-bad weekend, I guess we became a bit pampered after the three extremely strong Barbenheimer weekends, but compared to an average Germany summer weekend, it was ok.
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as expected, estimates are not very reliable this weekend ... (we had our rain in the night or early morning hours, so no big influence on BO - indeed, Saturday has been more agreeable outdoors than many other days this week because it was a little cooler) - but Sunday at least looks rainy in almost all regions, so we should have a fine afternoon and evening for the BO and maybe actuals will be higher.
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1 hour ago, Aristis said:
2nd Trend
#1 Barbie 300k (+12%)
#2 Oppenheimer 175k (-10%)
#3 Rehragout 150k (-11%)
#4 Meg2 90k (-0%)
#5 Elemental 55k (+31%)
much better than early estimates but I think this weekend estimates are very wobbly, depending on weather which differs very much between regions
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6 hours ago, Youngstar said:
Around where I'm living(RLP) a lot of rain is expected for the weekend. Could have sworn that most of Germany was getting bad weather on the weekend.
I hope that's true, here bad weather was predicted for Thursday but got postponed to Saturday
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Germany's Top15 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
269.012
791
340
4.566.078
42.797.071
-35
5
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Oppenheimer
194.185
731
266
3.101.943
35.938.331
-32
5
3
Rehragout-Rendezvous
167.914
648
259
754.307
7.156.512
-47
2
4
Meg 2
90.321
465
194
708.940
7.486.622
-39
3
5
Gran Turismo
45.522
431
106
179.350
1.745.398
-42
2
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Elemental
41.849
586
71
1.619.625
13.083.181
-32
9
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Blue Beetle
33.101
338
98
34.472
329.964
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1
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Mission: Impossible 7.1
29.013
310
94
1.144.027
12.843.160
-48
6
9
Miraculous - L&C
26.162
568
46
1.085.074
8.462.069
-33
7
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The Last Voyage of the Demeter
21.371
290
74
30.975
265.838
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1
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Past Lives
20.911
93
225
30.270
265.021
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1
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TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
20.415
483
42
221.820
1.838.540
-43
3
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Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
19.008
634
30
439.650
3.256.799
-40
4
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Indiana Jones 5
13.714
277
50
1.331.072
14.469.030
-58
8
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Kandahar
12.914
214
60
20.239
169.924
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Baaad weekend, horrible drops and pathetic openers … in Austria, very similar numbers but Rehragout is still leading here, and Barbie has crossed 600k admissions, so the Platinum Ticket is already safe and it might catch Mario Bros. for 2023's #1.
Next weekend: Baaad weekend coming, again no big openers and summery weather.
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3 hours ago, el sid said:
still no second trend
I wouldn't expect any major changes, weather and admissions are pretty much as expected
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early weekend estimates from insidekino.de:
#1: Barbie - 275k (-44%)
#2; Reh-Ren - 175k (-45%)
#3: Oppie - 175k (-39%)
#4: Meg2 - 80k (-46%)
Best opener: Blue Beetle with about 40k ...
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weatherforecast is really fine for most regions this weekend, so - without any major openers - a truly horrible weekend is to be expected 😬
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Germany's Top14 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
413.889
791
523
4.055.945
37.988.678
-41
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Rehragout Rendezvous
315.306
619
509
423.726
4.062.733
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Oppenheimer
286.172
672
426
2.765.170
32.024.395
-45
4
4
Meg 2
148.693
432
344
553.876
5.870.903
-46
2
5
Gran Turismo
78.872
411
192
98.217
944.970
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1
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Elemental
61.564
560
110
1.539.705
12.463.405
-58
8
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Mission: Impossible 7.1
55.664
400
139
1.089.627
12.235.434
-48
5
8
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
38.902
618
63
1.037.072
8.089.895
-59
6
9
TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
35.929
475
76
182.003
1.523.449
-62
2
10
Indiana Jones 5
32.697
377
87
1.301.220
14.160.709
-53
7
11
Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
31.474
635
50
398.110
2.955.728
-68
3
12
Talk to Me
12.839
198
65
96.372
889.005
-41
3
13
Insidious - The Red Door
12.563
215
58
433.050
4.286.428
-58
6
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Haunted Mansion
9.579
345
28
159.877
1.469.345
-71
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Massive drops highlight just how much German summer BO is depending on weather conditions; still a good weekend with one excellent opening - Rehragout-Rendezvous had a new record OW for the franchise. Gran Turismo was not flopping as hard as I expected, but far from satisfying. Barbie and Oppenheimer continued their strong runs, 5mil total should be doable for Barbie which had a comparatively good hold. Family releases always suffer hardest when it's sunny but Elemental held better than the others, a good sign. Miraculous crossed 1mil total, always the target for such adaptions - fine!
In Austria, Rehragout won the weekend (the franchsise has always been very popular in Austria, thanks to cultural proximity to Bavaria); it was already at 80k after Sunday, all other releases were on Germany's level or even lower. Barbie is still heading towards 600k total (the "Diamond Ticket").
Next weekend: Kandahar, The Last Voyage Of The Demeter, Blue Beetle - I see no opener cracking the 6-digit-mark. The most interesting (but limited) opener is Korean drama Past Lives which arrives with stellar reviews; it should have an excellent PTA and maybe an expansion in the weeks after. Weather conditions are unstable - it's unsure when the rains or thunderstorms will be starting; if it's early enough, family releases should see a comeback - but this week's Top3 should stay safe.
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Those Rita Falk adaptions really are incredible ... the 9th installment and openings are still growing bigger. And this latest one even had Wednesday previews for the first time, which must have taken some pressure of the actual WE.
title
OW
inc OW
total
mult.
Dampfnudelblues
35.403
519.373
14,67
Winterkartoffelknödel
72.811
106%
569.093
7,82
Schweinskopf al dente
95.888
32%
556.653
5,81
Grießnockerlaffäre
126.939
32%
845.205
6,66
Sauerkrautkoma
163.373
29%
1.004.707
6,15
Leberkäsjunkie
203.207
24%
1.242.502
6,11
Kaiserschmarrndrama
220.010
8%
1.145.135
5,20
Guglhupfgeschwader
251.664
14%
1.371.114
5,45
Rehragout-Rendezvous
315.306
25%
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While it's easy for such a series to grow in the beginning, where it had a very limited start, it's pretty rare too keep that momentum through so many years. However, now that we're near saturation (cinema-wise) I guess further increases will be much harder if there's a 10th at all - atm there is no new movie being planned since we're out of source material afaik but with this one's success, there must be a strong interest to produce more of them!
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Final estimates from insidekino.de:
#1: Barbie - 425k
#2: Rehragout - 400k incl. previews
#3: Oppie - 300k
#4: Meg2 - 150k
all other releases <100k admissions, but family releases all went up from Saturday estimates so I guess weather wasn't as good as predicted! Still an excellent summer weekend.
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Saturday updated estimates from insidekino.de - all releases down (fine weather I guess) but still a strong weekend of course.
BO Germany/Austria: Dune first 2024 blockbuster (3mil admissions)
in International Box Office
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I don't know whose expectations that were, presales were less than half of Creator's where I looked so going head-to-head with Creator over the weekend is in fact clearly above mine