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7 hours ago, Taruseth said:
Especially if some movies end up moving to next year.
Austria seems to have returned stronger than Germany. Do you know if total admissions are above 2018 / 2019?
2019 was not too good, even worse than 2018 which was already the lowest since 2000, so it's possible we're drawing ahead atm - sadly, Austrian numbers are published extremely late, so probably no definite answer until later this year.
The only information I have is that for January-June, we had 6,1mil admissions, while in 2019 and 2018, there were nearly 6,5mil. But that was, of course, before the current line of hits were starting.
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24 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:
Elemental
1. WE 168.340
2. WE 205.928 (+22%)
3. WE 95.750 (-54%)
4. WE 105.199 (+10%)
5. WE 115.429 (+10%)
6. WE 149.303 (+29%)
7. WE 146.555 (-2%)
Total - 1.405.898 admits! Insanetrue - German BO is always leggy when it comes to family releases (multiplicator of 10+ not unusual but usually with lower OWs), this is really an outstanding success after a lukewarm OW! It will drop a lot with beautiful weather returning this week but will still stay in theaters for many weeks more - 2mil total are very hard to reach from here but I'd say there's a slight chance; probably 1,85-1,9mil in the end. In Austria, 200k are locked, probably 250k in the end.
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Germany's Top17 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
702.316
816
861
3.263.560
30.584.677
-15
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2
Oppenheimer
522.527
677
772
2.243.428
25.979.611
-13
3
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Meg 2
275.637
418
659
305.779
3.271.214
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Elemental
146.555
602
243
1.405.898
11.424.099
-2
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5
Mission: Impossible 7.1
107.892
566
191
986.350
11.126.122
-32
4
6
Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
98.343
597
165
308.428
2.305.698
-0
2
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Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
94.982
638
149
955.110
7.471.412
-20
5
8
TMNT - Mutant Mayhem
93.821
458
205
106.606
910.647
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Indiana Jones 5
69.455
460
151
1.241.911
13.541.250
-27
6
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Haunted Mansion
33.427
358
93
136.405
1.261.943
-50
2
11
Insidious - The Red Door
29.570
294
101
412.891
4.086.258
-39
5
12
Talk to Me
21.616
200
108
75.472
691.089
-24
2
13
Les jeunes amants
16.367
87
188
17.698
159.304
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The Super Mario Bros. Movie
14.942
244
61
5.218.926
51.073.453
-3
18
15
The Little Mermaid
12.314
219
56
1.244.902
12.405.304
-26
11
16
Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
11.972
273
44
192.966
1.444.662
-28
6
17
No Hard Feelings
11.639
196
59
466.751
4.389.024
-43
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No further increases but still a wonderful weekend, with Meg 2 surpassing expectations and Barbie and Oppenheimer still dominating the market. The latest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie had an ok opening, too. Family movies had extremely good holds (Elemental, Lassie, Super Mario Bros.)!
As mentioned, in Austria, the weekend went even better - Barbie with a good chance to reach the "Platinum Ticket" (600k admissions) and 8 releases >10k admissions (and that's for the 3-day-WE compared to Germany's 4-day)! Even Lassie (which had opened lower than in Germany) had a better weekend this time.
Next weekend: With the return of summer weather, expect steep drops, especially for family fare. Two wide openers: Gran Turismo (which will probably get crushed under the mass of attractive holdovers) and Rehragout-Rendezvous - the 9th in the series of Rita Falk crime comedy adaptions. This series has been on a steady rise - every new one opened higher than the predecessor; since last year's Guglhupfgeschwader opened to about 250k, that's the number it should reach (but hopefully a bit higher once more). In Austria, the series is even more popular; Guglhupfgeschwader made the Golden Ticket (300k admissions total) last year and opened with a >70k 4-day-WE - it has a good chance to become #1!
The biggest problem next weekend will be screen allocations ...
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2 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
BARBIE (3.263.560 Admission, €30.584.677)
1. WE 621.560
2. WE 826.431 (+33%)
3. WE 702.316 (-15%)
OPPENHEIMER (2.343.428 Admission, €25.979.611)
1. WE 504.297
2. WE 600.976 (+19%)
3. WE 522.527 (-13%)
those three weekends (or rather, weeks) have been crazy good ...
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11 minutes ago, el sid said:
The Monday update from insidekino.de - all films increased:
#1 Barbie 702.5k/3.26M total admissions
#2 Oppenheimer 522.5k/2.24M
#3 Meg 305k
#4 Elemental 145k/1.405M
#5 M: I 107.5k/985k
still "only" 5 releases >100k, I had hoped for a bit more but really a wonderful weekend!
After a few weekends with very similar numbers, this time Austria was pulling ahead - 8 releases >10k, crazy - that number would be exceptional even in December or January, but is simply unbelievable in summer - such a wide gamut of attractive releases, all finding their public!
Virtually every single release did even better than in Germany, helped by really awful weather in many parts of Austria.
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final estimates from insidekino.de have the Top3 a bit higher, other releases a bit lower than earlier estimates ... let's see
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Early weekend estimates from insidekino.de:
#1: Barbie - 650k (-21%)
#2: Oppie - 440k (-27%)
#3: Meg2 - 250k (wow, much stronger than the first one)
#4: Elemental - 125k (-16%, another fine hold)
#5: TMNT Mayhem - 107k (better than I expected, definitely NO flop)
All other releases <100k, so only 5 in the 6-digit-range - I had hoped for overall better numbers but still an excellent weekend! I have the impression that with this unexpected multitude of attractive releases, there are allocation problems at meny venues. And this won't get any better with two more big openers next week ...
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OD for Meg2 and TMNT and while the Shark is doing ok, the turtles seem to be heding into flop territory, at least at my theater ...
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Germany's Top15 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
826.431
757
1.092
2.041.900
19.210.133
+33
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Oppenheimer
600.976
626
960
1.406.700
16.342.418
+19
2
3
Mission: Impossible 7.1
157.629
683
231
801.263
9.119.865
-9
3
4
Elemental
149.303
578
258
1.153.887
9.477.707
+29
6
5
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
118.648
664
179
779.440
6.156.903
+3
4
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Lassie - Ein neues Abenteuer
98.381
566
174
116.784
894.113
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Indiana Jones 5
94.742
461
206
1.124.674
12.332.008
-8
5
8
Haunted Mansion
67.321
357
189
67.321
641.653
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Insidious - The Red Door
48.253
340
142
366.856
3.633.209
-19
4
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Talk to Me
28.564
189
151
38.804
342.553
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No Hard Feelings
20.511
260
79
445.412
4.189.822
-22
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The Little Mermaid
16.699
262
64
1.222.548
12.209.343
-17
10
13
Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
16.572
347
48
169.073
1.274.702
-4
5
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The Super Mario Bros. Movie
15.472
260
60
5.192.136
50.861.738
+9
17
15
Spider-Man - Across the Spider-Verse
11.094
185
60
887.599
8.740.006
-30
9
A wonderful weekend for the German (and Austrian) BO … both Barbie and Oppenheimer managed to increase from last week's already good numbers. Hard to predict as long as it's rising but Barbie might catch The Super Mario Bros Movie (which also had an increase) for biggest 2023 release, those 5.2mil seem doable. Among family releases, Elemental also had one more increase, nice! The openers stayed below my expectations - Haunted Mansion was bound to flop but under the current good conditions, I would have expected a 6-digit-OW from Lassie.
In Austria, very similar results but family releases came in a bit lower. Barbie has already >300k admissions by now, crazy.
Next weekend: This week's Top2 will be safe, but #3 might become a close call. Two new wide releases, Meg 2 and TMNT-Mutant Mayhem - both have good chances at a 6-digit-OW - plus Elemantal amd M:I7.1 - whoever wins, it should be another very satisfying weekend with 6 or even 7 releases >100k. (Weather still pretty rainy in most regions)
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1 hour ago, WorkingonaName said:
MI with the best drop
I have no idea why it's dropping on a weekend wehere most everything increased ... I've seen it, it's an ok actioner, pretty entertaining - just doesn't cut it with the general audiences it seems.
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final WE estimates for Germany from insidekino.de:
#1: Barbie - 825k (+33%)
#2: Oppie - 600k (+19%)
#3: M:I7.1 - 155k (-10%)
#4: Elemental - 150k (+30%)
wow, just wow ... can't say I understand this sudden explosion but let's just enjoy it while it lasts. My hope is that those hits will generate further admissions, either by trailer exposure or by overall awareness that movie-going still exists!
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German (and Austrian) BO is on fire after some really horrible weeks ...
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1 hour ago, Taruseth said:
I know that that is extremely optimistic, but I think its possible. Presales look good overall.
that seems indeed very optimistic, especially for family releases - but keep in mind that we're in holiday mode; for family movies, there's not much difference between weekdays and weekends. So, even if WE numbers might come in under your hopes, we should still see some extremely good weekday numbers and rising totals with current weather conditions.
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17 minutes ago, Giesi said:
Well, Mark is hinting that Barbenheimer could increase this weekend. I mean the weather is doing its part the way things look, WOM also seems to be stellar.
weather aside: at least in Oppenheimer's case, we might also see the effect of additional shows and/or bigger screens ... I'm sure last week's numbers could have been higher with increased capacities, there was definitely a shortage of good seats.
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at my theater, Lassie is having twice as many presales as Haunted Mansion, despite Haunted Mansion having twice as many shows ... doesn't look too good for the Disney release.
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Germany's Top13 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Barbie
621.560
709
877
735.551
7.053.204
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Oppenheimer
504.297
555
909
504.297
5.973.413
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3
Mission: Impossible 7.1
172.825
630
274
556.378
6.443.293
-26
2
4
Elemental
115.429
523
221
916.881
11.934.224
+10
5
5
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
115.307
662
174
586.193
4.689.752
-14
3
6
Indiana Jones 5
103.331
509
203
973.208
10.776.343
-22
4
7
Insidious - The Red Door
59.711
406
147
290.550
2.893.678
-23
3
8
No Hard Feelings
26.256
349
75
408.021
3.840.091
-38
5
9
The Little Mermaid
20.153
320
63
1.191.061
11.934.224
-33
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Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
17.265
432
40
139.260
1.064.926
-16
4
11
Spider-Man - Across the Spider-Verse
15.760
287
55
864.754
8.537.340
-42
8
12
The Super Mario Bros. Movie
14.212
319
45
5.165.829
50.661.319
+12
16
13
Asteriod City
12.403
150
83
197.680
1.817.544
-28
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Wonderful weekend with two strong openers in Oppenheimer (look at that PTA despite the long running time) and Barbie; 6 releases in the 6-digit-range are something to be cherished on a July weekend! Thanks to rainier weather, family releases saw good holds or even increases - Elemental once again fine, making up a bit for the weak opening, must have decent WOM. M:I 7.1, sadly, dropped from the already bad OW; reaching 1mil total is still possible but it's a safe bet it will become the franchise's lowest seller.
In Austria, an even better weekend with Barbie already >100k, Oppenheimer doing a bit better and M:I on the same level as in Germany despite the half-weekend-earlier opening, total already >80k. Elemental, Spider-Verse, Asteroid City and No Hard Feelings are all heading towards totals about 35-45% better than in Germany. So, despite the weak weekends lately, overall the summer slump seems to have been softer here.
Next weekend: Disney is giving Haunted Mansion another try but presales look lackluster. The biggest opener should be the latest Lassie movie; I don't believe you could call this a franchise or series but Lassie (and dogs in general) have always been popular in Germany; presales don't look like a 6-digit-OW either but with family movies, that's often the case. This week's top3 should be safe in any case.
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truth be told, the only thing keeping Oppenheimer from #1 in admissions is the running time ... shows were selling out in the evening but there were just too few of them over the day to compete with Barbie, admission-wise.
Overall, from one of the worst ever July weekends to one of the best - a very welcome relief for the near-dead BO!
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wow, super estimates - which make M:I and Indy look only the more pathetic ...
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Germany's Top 13 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Mission: Impossible 7.1
233.608
630
371
285.712
3.384.905
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2
Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
133.548
639
209
407.099
3.293.176
-11
2
3
Indiana Jones 5
131.699
717
184
806.974
9.015.349
-20
3
4
Elemental
105.199
505
208
746.520
6.287.757
+10
4
5
Insidious - The Red Door
77.397
404
192
203.303
2.045.999
-18
2
6
No Hard Feelings
42.268
490
86
362.010
3.407.615
-4
4
7
The Little Mermaid
30.026
373
80
1.154.843
11.603.510
+1
8
8
Spider-Man - Across the Spider-Verse
27.122
376
72
834.438
8.261.240
-17
7
9
Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
20.589
459
45
110.442
854.507
+17
3
10
Asteroid City
17.238
158
109
176.543
1.627.535
+42
5
11
Transformers 7
16.049
275
58
414.812
4.612.832
-17
6
12
Fast & Furious 10
15.076
281
54
1.542.707
17.379.077
-14
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The Super Mario Bros. Movie
12.646
341
37
5.143.664
50.487.134
+28
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One more bummer weekend … Misson: Impossible 7.1 stayed far below my already low expectations, a real disaster - on a weekend that was not too difficult weather-wise as witnessed by some increases from last weekend. Over the summer it shouldn't have a problem reaching 1mil total but it has a real chance at becoming the franchise's lowest seller (hitherto M.I 3 with about 1,2mil total). Elemental managed a slight increase, 1mil total should be possible, too - WOM seems ok.
In Austria, M:I7.1 opened a little higher (after the Saturday prestart, it's now at 60k total, a satisfying number) while nearly all other releases came in lower than in Germany.
Next weekend: Two big openers: Barbie (no idea where it's heading but presales look ok, a lot better than M:I7.1 at least) and Oppenheimer (presales lower than Barbie but still good). With weather less sunny and some attractive family releases still in theaters, we might finally see a REALLY GOOD OVERALL WEEKEND once more!!!! (keeping fingers crossed …)
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entertaining sets and stunts but the plot was overly complicated and convoluted ... pretty silly imho but time flew by nontheless.
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that's indeed far worse than expected for MI ... I was thinking about something like a 350-400k OW (without previews) - so that's maybe half of what I was hoping for. Ugly ugly ugly ...
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Germany's Top14 last weekend:
title
admissions
th.
PTA
total adm.
total €
drop
week
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Indiana Jones 5
164.150
714
230
604.667
6.819.454
-51
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Miraculous - Ladybug & Cat Noir
150.891
618
244
207.241
1.705.325
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Elemental
95.750
615
156
585.285
4.988.228
-54
3
4
Insidious - The Red Door
94.388
375
252
94.388
965.885
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5
No Hard Feelings
44.167
529
83
298.257
2.807.818
-50
3
6
Spider-Man - Across the Spider-Verse
32.850
439
75
791.869
7.859.719
-44
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The Little Mermaid
29.679
402
74
1.107.882
11.163.152
-55
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Transformers 7
19.288
349
55
391.733
4.369.999
-53
5
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Ruby Gillman
17.607
450
39
79.394
621.881
-60
2
10
Fast & Furious 10
17.591
318
55
1.520.926
17.147.665
-53
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The Flash
12.632
340
37
268.601
2.770.523
-65
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12
Asteroid City
12.098
157
77
151.452
1.405.575
-53
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Mon crime
11.623
142
82
20.528
165.781
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Guardians of the Galaxy 3
11.035
201
55
1.951.606
22.771.903
-46
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Dreadful weekend, and Austria didn't fare any better this time. New kids CGI Miraculous had an OK start under these conditions and that's it.
Next weekend: Since summer is here to stay, don't expect any miracles … of course, Mission Impossible 7.1 should win the weekend but it will be a deflated start once more - like with Indy, I'd be surprised if it can hit a 500k OW (Thu-Sun).
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and let's not forget Mission Impossible 7, opening today in Austria and of course #1 but I have to say, this doesn't look very blockbustery either - nowhere even close to a sellout situation.
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1 hour ago, pepsa said:
Elemental dropping to 95k a drop way over 50%, not good though mostly because of the nice weather.
with the good opening of Lady Bug/Catnoir and fine weather that was to be expected I think; might be bounce back with rainier weather again. Obviously still awful for a Pixar movie but that has been the trend for a few years now ...
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BO Germany/Austria: Dune first 2024 blockbuster (3mil admissions)
in International Box Office
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wow, that opening for Rehragout was unexpected ... going by the trend of this franchise to open a little bigger each time, i was thinking about maybe a 275k opening (especially given the strong competition) - but 325k for Thu-Sun (after already 75k Wed) is a giant step.