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fucking late night show then I guess
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please do not be on a late night show or is2g
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22 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:
I think small, boutique-style cinemas - think Everyman - usually work on a far lower occupancy level in any case, and make a lot from associated services, such as proper food service. That will also hit them bad.
I do expect only the big multiplexes to be able to operate, yes.
In terms of enforcing distancing at entrance, while not easy, it's not impossible, and there are loads of examples to pull from.
You are already greatly increasing the time in-between showings to allow for proper cleaning. A reduced number of films playing for the rest of the year (i.e, either until a second wave hits, a vaccine is sorted - lol - or everyone just fucking gives up) will also help with this. You take a 2 hour movie, playing on 10 screens, it's fairly easy to stagger timings to allow for maximum cleaning time and seating. You don't have any two auditoriums next to each other playing the movie within a one hour window of each other, you cordon off a section to allow social distancing appropriate queuing and seat people as you would an aircraft, by seat number.
Slightly rejig the reservation system whereby you select a middle seat and are told to be at your screening 20 minutes before start. Closer to the aisle, 5 minutes before the start. Queue accordingly, and have PPE-wearing staff check the allocated timing as you enter the building. If too early, stand to the side, as you would outside a supermarket. Too late and you're refused entry.
Again, I'm not saying it's easy or that people will like it, but it's manageable. And if it's between that and just not opening doors at all until social distancing is eliminated... well, not much of a choice. They have to at least TRY to survive.
but just because they can, should they? And - more importantly here imho- should studios (morally) be releasing big event films like this only in these still-risky cinemas, especially so early out the gate like TENET?
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RIP to the upside down logo (I guess it will still be in the film but still, wasn't on the trailer teases and now this )
https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Tenet-Inside-Christopher-Quantum/dp/1647220602/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=tenet+quantum&qid=1590048359&sr=8-1
6 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:9 AM PST is usually when WB releases trailers.
Also, I'm assuming that Tenet, even if it gets delayed, will still release in the summer because they wouldn't have released a trailer right now just to announce it's releasing 6 months later or next year.
Yup, this trailer is even okay for the August 14 release. So timings, no worries at the moment...
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18 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
Does he actually know that its coming out then or is he assuming that just because a trailer is coming out?
Assuming.
Anyway, putting my feelings on release dates etc to one side today, I'm so damn hyped for this. Can't believe we are finally getting new trailers in general again. And Nolan's main theatrical trailers are usually absolute masterpieces so cannot wait.
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3 minutes ago, TMP said:
Lmfao, where is this promo photo from. I think it’s the first time I’ve seen it.
It's fan art.
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1 hour ago, wildphantom said:
Scoob is out today right? yet not all over the world? yeah, that's going to turn out well.
It may not have been tracking great a few months ago, but that kind of movie would have been perfect for when theaters start re-opening. An animated movie with no competition for months, and they jumped the gun throwing it out on demand. Might well have been a nice little hit for WB, and eased families back in to the moviegoing sphere.
Maybe that's what they're planning in some territories
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6 minutes ago, MrPink said:
The article briefly touches on it but I find it frustrating how the vast majority of these articles are centered around the business issue of releasing Tenet on July 17, rather than the human element of responsibility and safety.
To me, I don't think whether Tenet is profitable or not should be the question. If you believe your business is at stake, then taking a loss for the sake of the future is something you might have to live with. That can mean taking a short term loss on Tenet, or taking a short term loss by delaying it. But it's always going to come down to whether most people agree it's safe enough to go to the theaters, and that doesn't necessarily mean you get a profit in the process.
Fucking this.
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4 minutes ago, TMP said:
Nolan's a person, WB is a faceless, soulless entity. I guess it's easier to write a theoretical letter to a human.
Also quite obvious that Nolan is the deciding factor here as to why 1. this is still sticking to July, 2. this is the first major film out in cinemas rather than WW84 for instance and 3. why is WB even offering up a tentpole as an olive branch to theater owners as opposed to fleeing the summer like virtually everyone else save for Disney.
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Oh and here's basically confirmation of what we've all been suspecting
Warner Bros. executives acknowledge they will release the film only if the country’s two largest markets, New York and Los Angeles, are fully open.
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Both Warner Bros. and Nolan declined to comment for this story. But those with knowledge of the plans describe how the studio is moving forward. The company has already conducted cast and filmmaker interviews for so-called “long-lead" journalists, monthly magazine writers, by Zoom. It also is preparing to drop a second trailer online in the coming weeks — one more trapping of a company preparing a major summer release.
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read this for a balanced debate of both sides of the issue from actual cinema owners: https://www.the-bigger-picture.com/articles/when-should-uk-cinemas-reopen/
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21 minutes ago, Kalo said:
the US closed down the country for the first time in history... how is that lacking in response???
We are talking about something still 2 months away. I think it's premature to say that. the economy HAS to open it just does.
Opening the economy prematurely and risking that second wave when deaths are still in the hundreds and new cases are in the thousands (in the UK's case) is lacking in response. Not having widespread accessible and reliable testing and tracing - which we don't here - is lacking in response. Locking down the country WEEKS late after pursuing a dangerous strategy is lacking in response.
Maybe that's why the industry is so silent on that whole debate because it is so intertwined with politics. They just take governments at their word - there's no reason from their POV not to reopen if the governments give the green light. The assumption is that when the governments say it's safe it will actually be. Guess the public and those calling for a delay can afford to be more skeptical.
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1 hour ago, Kalo said:
Yeah that is a possibility. but based on other countries if they hold off until beginning of July, the trajectory should start going down drastically by then ( I pray and hope). in some places in the US there are already promising signs.
Again, based on other countries.
The problem at the core of this and people in general hoping for it to be delayed is the US and UK governments' lacking response to the virus.
"The country's reopening is premature, its government response unacceptably lax - and its cinemas simply unsafe, no matter how many temperature checks they perform at the door."
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2 hours ago, DAJK said:
Whatever happens, I think the idea of opening this in July is gonna be high risk high reward for WB. Tenet is either gonna bomb HARD in this date, or it's gonna be a giant zeitgeist movie
Or it - obviously I hope not but that's the risk if governments reopen too early before the number of new cases really drops low enough like it has in most countries reopening to date - contributes to that second wave...
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Just now, CloneWars said:
That makes me feel Tenet opening is becoming likelier.
Between that and NATO lobbying Cuomo to allow NY cinemas to reopen, yup..at the moment, anyway.
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47 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
NATO is lobbying to get cinemas opened early in NY. Wouldn't be surprised if NATO, WB, and Disney do the same in LA where they likely have more influence too.
Yup. Anyway back to where we were before with this clarification:
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So...could this trigger the delay?
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Moving a bit from the whole cinemas/COVID discussion, the making-of book has been retitled:
The Secrets of Tenet: Inside Christopher Nolan's Quantum Cold War
Discover the secrets of Christopher Nolan's Tenet with this exclusive behind-the-scenes look at 2020's most anticipated film.
FROM DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER NOLAN comes a mind-blowing espionage thriller so unique that audiences will puzzle over its intricacies for years to come. The Secrets of Tenet takes readers on an exclusive journey into Nolan's time-bending masterpiece, offering rare insights into all aspects of its creation. Featuring in-depth commentary from Nolan himself and a range of other key collaborators--including producer Emma Thomas and production designer Nathan Crowley--The Secrets of Tenet delivers an essential masterclass that lays bare the director's process and his singular creative vision. Illustrated with candid behind-the-scenes imagery and compelling conceptual art, this is the ultimate exploration of a film guaranteed to linger in the imagination long into the future . . . and perhaps the past.
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12 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
How's worldwide opening looking? I mena theater opening?
Looks like July most of the world will be up and running (at the moment, anyway), including China. Only big question marks are US and the UK where there's such a clear rush to reopen before the science really supports it, and are also the biggest/most important markets.
As noted in the reopening thread, here in the UK, July 4 is the earliest date.
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PAPA NOL∀N'S TENƎꓕ | August 26 internationally. September 2 "in select US cities" | 75% on RT after 228 reviews
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Because WB 99% of the time drops trailers at specifically morning times. Either 6 or 9 or 10am PT.