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    PAPA NOL∀N'S TENƎꓕ | August 26 internationally. September 2 "in select US cities" | 75% on RT after 228 reviews

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    4 hours ago, BoxOfficeZ said:

    Seeing a film early isn't as straight forward as it used to be heh. So many sanitation checks and social distancing and only a select few people per screening room, and that's only if you're lucky and happen to be in the same city. Plus masks on the whole time. 

     

     

    If only the general public could enjoy that same level of going above and beyond safety wise :(

     

    glad you loved it though! Just under two weeks to go...here's hoping as @SnokesLegssays it either doesn't rain or they cancel the run entirely (someone on another forum is claiming WB/Nolan are fighting over driveins in the US - was told also that his previous films didn't screen at them)

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    PAPA NOL∀N'S TENƎꓕ | August 26 internationally. September 2 "in select US cities" | 75% on RT after 228 reviews

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    Posted · Edited by antovolk

    Cut by 9 seconds in the UK to get a 12A rating

    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/tenet-film

    (UK version is 149m 50s, other countries is 149m 59s)

     

    Also speaking of UK, there are now three drive-ins screening it to date, two week engagements (Colchester and Newark-on-Trent from 28th, London from 31st). First booked for the 31st but then...yeah let's do this 160 mile round trip for that 72 hour head start :D (it's also a 'proper' drive-in with DCP projection and not LED screen)

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    PAPA NOL∀N'S TENƎꓕ | August 26 internationally. September 2 "in select US cities" | 75% on RT after 228 reviews

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    Posted · Edited by antovolk

    3 things with that Tenet PVOD thing

    1. Will major chains go for it? Any discussion of it now would require a similar deal to Universal/AMC, which Regal publicly told Uni to fuck off with basically and Cinemark is ambivalent. Now if Tenet underperforms below even the COVID adjusted expectations in open states on Labor Day....

    2. WB's release plan for the US - it may very well end up taking *longer* than 3 weeks for NY/LA to get it. What's the point of putting it on PVOD before the major markets get it (given the positioning of the release as an olive branch to cinemas)

    3. Nolan - seems to believe in the 90+ day as a matter of principle.

     

     

    1 hour ago, reddevil19 said:

    To be honest, what that reads as to me is "Shit...I dunno what's gonna happen". Not necessarily in a "we have no plan" sort of way, but in a "we have a few half-baked plans" sort of way.

     

    It's clear everyone believes shortening the theatrical window is a done deal, but it's also clear that, if anyone wants to make money off theatrical right now, they need to do it through long legs and a long release.

    It's also clear every major studio is fucked in terms of streaming compared to Disney, due to international reach. International distribution rights have made a right mess of back catalogs, making worldwide roll-out difficult for Max, or Peacock or whatever the fuck else is out there. Compare that to Disney+, and you can see why going the Mulan route just isn't an option. Most studios don't have one streaming service to go on that has a massive reach. 

     

    I doubt Mulan will draw many new subscribers that would then have to pay a premium for the movie itself. I also doubt the majority of subscribers will pay for it. But when the base is already high enough, even a 30-40% purchase rate would mean a wild success. That's what makes Disney's move a potentially good one but not an option for other studios. Streaming services are too fragmented and VOD is just too small a segment internationally.

     

    What COULD be interesting is if someone approached Netflix and worked out a deal - instead of outright selling the movie to them, let's say WB put one of their big releases on there. Let's say WW84 for argument's sake. Do a 24-48 hour window to watch from time of payment, and make it 15 bucks. 30% split for Netflix and first dibs on streaming rights once the original window ends (say, give it 3 months of this model, 2 months for Blu Ray, then "free", subscription-based streaming). Considering the subscriber base for Netflix and the reasonable cost for a prime release... I dunno, I'd certainly pay that. But I can't see studios doing that either. So, the alternative is for studios to accelerate roll-out of their streaming services worldwide.

    They could also just...do what Universal and others are doing - PVODing it through iTunes, Amazon etc. Only Disney has set the watermark by doing PVOD on their own SVOD service. And perhaps only just in the US while rest of world gets it traditionally.

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    PAPA NOL∀N'S TENƎꓕ | August 26 internationally. September 2 "in select US cities" | 75% on RT after 228 reviews

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    5 hours ago, Mango said:

    A quick Google search of the film is showing a good amount of audience reviews . It's showing me 30 right now, I'm not going to click for fear of spoilers to see how many seem legitimate but it looks like the special screenings actually happened. First glance says it looks like a big winner quality wise. Hell even if it isn't "top tier" Nolan it may end up getting points just for the novelty of being the first thing people have seen on the big screen since March.

    all of them are troll reviews

    Theatrical to VOD window shortening | 17-31 Day theatrical window for Uni

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    9 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

    What will the pricing be for the titles that go VOD after 17 days? The movie's not totally new but it's not 3 months old, either...somewhere between $5.99 and $20 for a rental? Everyone doesn't go to movies in big groups or live in a top market, the theater is actually be cheaper some cases. When Covid is no longer a major threat, I am not sure about this business model. AMC has to survive to that point first...

    will surely be that $19.99 if not higher

    Theatrical to VOD window shortening | 17-31 Day theatrical window for Uni

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    Posted · Edited by antovolk

    9 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

    wow independent cinemas are fucked huh?

    Independent and arthouse cinemas have been contending with day and date for years and have...actually found ways to still compete? Hell here in the UK an arthouse chain has been driving the whole boat for the better part of a decade in the indie sphere.

     

    'All tentpoles all the time' aside what this is really moving towards is theatres being a premium experience for enthusiasts. More expensive, less accessible locations wise, but higher quality of both the experience and the audience....

    Theatrical to VOD window shortening | 17-31 Day theatrical window for Uni

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    3 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

    The article specifies this is for low budget films. Big budget films will still have the normal theatrical window (unless they flop I think but this isn't specified). And MGM hasn't made this kind of deal yet. 

    the press release I received doesn't but of course makes more sense for it to be for mid and lower budget titles. But if Bond sticks to November under pressure from international like with Tenet and US COVID situation is still bad that you have to do a staggered release...

     

    Oh and MGM is releasing Bill & Ted day and date. Unlikely they'll try get it into the major chains anyway though. But if they did want to try for Bond.....

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