Gokai Red

August 11, 2022

Any chance the rerelease screening can get Deathly Hallows Part 1 over 1 billion?

August 9, 2022

1 hour ago, baumer said:

With a whole new generation becoming members of this site and a lot of the older members now either gone or just posting sporadically, I wonder how many people here actually get this reference?

I know this isn't the original, but I had this saved on my computer and you gave me an excuse to post it.

August 8, 2022

I don't know how popular my opinion is, but I think they should, and hope they do, just straight up reboot the DCEU. Recast all the heroes, regardless of how popular or well liked they currently are, just do it again from the ground up. And don't use Batman and Joker for a least a few more years while they have Pattinson and Phoenix playing those characters in different universes, because that's way too confusing for GA. Just one person playing one character at a time.

August 8, 2022

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but the World Cup is scheduled to go from November 21 to December 18 this year, so the final days might damper OS openings.

July 19, 2022

They really trying to push for 2 billies

June 13, 2022

I don't think it's fair to put Avatar on that list with other franchises right now, since we haven't even seen the performance of the sequel yet. For all we know, 2 and 3 could bomb or have very middling performances. I'll wait to see how the sequel does before I say anything about the power of the franchise

For me, I would say, in terms of box office power (right now), the strongest franchises:

1. Disney Live Action Remakes

Does this count? As much as people talk bad about them, they all consistently are among the top earners of their year every year

2. Fast and Furious

Yes, it is on the decline and closing out soonish maybe, but the movie has very strong appeal, especially OS

3. Jurassic World

The franchise will lay dormant for now, but it has shown that people just love dinosaurs

4. Star Wars

Even though SW seems relegated to streaming for now, it's still Star Wars

5. Despicable Me

I feel we often overlook kids movies, but you can't deny the power of the Minions

6. (if you don't count the Live Action Remakes) Mission Impossible

I guess? I'm sure TGM will give the next two MI movies a bit of a boost. All this thought experiment has shown me is how dominate CBMs really are. I feel like I'm scraping pretty hard to fill out the list

I think the top box office franchises in terms of box office potential would probably be:

1. Star Wars

No doubt. That run from 2015-2017 where they had the highest grossing film 3 years in a row was legendary. The audience is clearly there, I think it's just a matter of the quality and not relying so much on nostalgia to bring in more OS audiences/newer fans.

2. Harry Potter/Wizarding World

Yes I know the Fantastic Beasts movies are bombing, but let's not forget that every HP movie entered the WW Top 15 when they came out, and the brand has very strong international potential. I have no doubt in my heart that eventually, a TFA style sequel with the original trio will be made, and they have such a large world/history of stories that they could go through.

3. Avatar

The reason I put SW and HP above Avatar is because they could probably get away with making a movie every year, and currently have wide, expansive universes to draw from. As opposed to Avatar which currently does not have as expansive of a universe, and would probably only get a single release every 2-3 years.

(There is a huge gap between these three and anything else)

Other high potential brands I could think of include MonsterVerse, the next James Bond, more Fast and Furious spinoffs, Transformers if they improve the quality and distance themselves from the Michael Bay era, Frozen if they really wanted to milk it for more movies.

April 13, 2022

9 hours ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Never forget

6/29/09

March 8, 2022

CM legs takes this to 373m, but that had AEG boost to increase its legs. But either way, 350m should be pretty certain.

March 6, 2022

For a second, I thought "See You Again" was gonna play at the end.

March 6, 2022

Pattinson about to have his 4th movie open in the 135-145 range

February 26, 2022

3 hours ago, Derby Legion said:

Calling all trivia diehards:
What 12 month windows contain the most monthly OW record breakers?

Without trying that hard, is it 2015 calendar year? January, February, April, June, and December all broke their monthly records at the time. It probably happened way sooner though.

December 21, 2021

4 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

I will look a bit deeper in a few hours, but think it might be like $36m

Don't put any weight behind that yet, might be totally wrong.

TFA and AEG safe, over Avatar still possible?

December 17, 2021

Please I just want previews to be between 53 and 57 just so we can argue over what movie has the biggest "real" previews gross in December for all time. Come on Sony!

February 19, 2021

A little late, but can we change the thread title. Gotta put some respect on the name.

December 26, 2020

12 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

After TFA passed Avatar to become the highest grossing movie in NA back then in 2015/2016, was there any boost for its later run?

TFA became the highest grossing film in NA in only 20 days, while it was still making a very large amount of money every day, so there was no noticeable boost as far as anyone could tell. I don't know much about Japan BO, but I think it's very possible DS sees a bit of a boost.

November 7, 2020

I will unironically say that The Avengers is the most impactful and most important films of the past decade for several reasons.

Firstly, as mentioned, it opened the floodgates for what the MCU would become: the highest grossing film series of all time. While the movies ahead of it are very respectable box office successes, the success of The Avengers was insane, and really made the filmmakers behind the MCU more confident, showing them that audiences are interested and invested in these characters that they have to offer. Without this movie's success, films like Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel might not have ever been made.

Secondly, the impact that it had on other Hollywood movies was immense. Everyone else wanted a piece of that Avengers money, whether it was the failed Dark Universe, the Spider-Man Cinematic Universe which was dead and revived multiple times (remember all that Sinister Six setup in ASM2, or that rumored Aunt May movie?), and finally convinced WB to take a DC Universe seriously. The very way films were made to set up potentially infinite sequels and spinoffs, the idea of crossovers between vastly different characters, all of that was influenced by this movie.

Lastly, I would say that The Avengers was the first of what I like to call the "hyper blockbusters" (basically the $200 million+ openers/$600 million+ DOM grossers). Beating DH2 by $40 million one year after it set the OW record was unthinkable. $623 million domestic and $1.5 billion worldwide were unthinkable. But the thing is that these unthinkable feats shaped the way we thought of box office and the limits of it. Remember how for years, we believed in the $70 million daily cap? To explain, The Avengers' first Saturday of just under $70 million was matched by Jurassic World and The Force Awakens, but never exceeded, and because of that, many people thought that $70 million was as high as a film could realistically gross in a single day (emphasis on realistic and not theoretical gross). For a film to shape our very idea of what the limits of box office are as a whole, I think is a very powerful thing. Even now we can look at The Avengers' box office run to predict how other hyper blockbusters will perform.

For those reasons, as a film lover and box office enthusiast, that is why I think The Avengers is the most impactful and most important movie of the past decade.

February 21, 2020

Really like this idea, but I hope the presentation gets cleared up. Maybe add the year the record was broken and/or how much money each film made?

January 15, 2020

Is there a reason we're not having all the weekday threads as just one big thread like we did over the holidays? It makes no sense; during the slow seasons, the daily threads sometimes have 5 pages or less. But yet we have one weekend thread that is usually 25+ pages, even during the slow season. Why keep them separate outside of appealing to tradition?

January 6, 2020

On 1/16/2019 at 10:18 PM, Gokai Red said:

Rank. Movie - WW/DOM/OS

All numbers rounded to the nearest 25th, and presented in Millions of Dollars

If there is a tie in the WW gross, then the DOM gross is used as the tiebreaker

1. Avengers: Endgame - 1925/625/1300

2. The Lion King - 1400/600/800

3. Frozen 2 - 1300/450/850

4. Star Wars: Episode IX - 1250/600/650

5. Spider-Man: Far From Home - 1025/375/650

6. Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw - 1000/200/800

7. Toy Story 4 - 975/350/625

8. Jumanji 3 - 925/350/575

9. Captain Marvel - 900/375/525

10. The Secret Life of Pets 2 - 900/325/575

First year where the entire Top 10 breaks $900M

Let's see how I did.

Green text represents my prediction being within 9.9% right (either positively or negatively - hint, there's not that many). Yellow text represents my prediction being within 10-19.9% correct. Red text means that I was more than 20% off on my prediction. The percentages are based on (My prediction) divided by (What the film actually grossed), so as to measure my own ability to predict the box office.

1. Avengers: Endgame - 1925 (-31.2%)/625 (-27.2%)/1300 (-33.0%) - Way off on this, but then again, who wasn't. OS alone outgrossed what I thought would be its WW gross

2. The Lion King - 1400 (-15.5%)/600 (+10.4%)/800 (-28.1%) - I was somewhat close on the domestic front, but the OS over performance was hard to see coming

3. Frozen 2 - 1300 (-10.3%)/450 (-10%)/850 (-10.5%) (Assuming 1450/500/950) - We were this close to greatness. Under predicted, but at least I got the ratios right

4. Star Wars: Episode IX - 1250 (+17.9%)/600 (+17.6%)/650 (+18.2%) (Assuming 1060/510/550) - Over predicted, but at least I got the ratios right.

5. Spider-Man: Far From Home - 1025 (-9.4%)/375 (-4.0%)/650 (-12.3%) - One if my better predictions. OS over performed

6. Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw - 1000 (+31.8%)/200 (+15.1%)/800 (+36.7%) - Over predicted by a lot

7. Toy Story 4 - 975 (-9.2%)/350 (-19.4%)/625 (-2.3%) - Another halfway decent prediction. If I had had DOM up by 75, this prediction would pretty much be spot on

8. Jumanji 3 - 925 (+18.6%)/350 (+12.9%)/575 (+22.3%) (Assuming 780/310/470) - Over predicted

9. Captain Marvel - 900 (-20.2%)/375 (-12.1%)/525 (-25.1%) - I say I'm an MCU fanboy but I under predicted all 3 MCUs this year. Maybe I should start going higher

10. The Secret Life of Pets 2 - 900 (+109.6%)/325 (+105.3%)/575 (+112.0%) - Don't even talk to me about this one dude

I did not predict Joker or Aladdin making it into the top 10. I'm still trash at this

January 6, 2020

Here were my predictions for 2019 (WW/DOM/OS) and how my predictions lined up with reality.

Green text represents my prediction being within 9.9% right (either positively or negatively - hint, there's not that many). Yellow text represents my prediction being within 10-19.9% correct. Red text means that I was more than 20% off on my prediction. The percentages are based on (My prediction) divided by (What the film actually grossed), so as to measure my own ability to predict the box office

Will post my 2020 predictions before January is over.