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And it was straight to streaming. I dont think it would've survived the theatrical cut.

I really disagree. I think an interesting comparison to the TF franchise is Twilight. The Twilight films always get a bump online whenever they jump to a new streaming service. There's been a lot of positive retrospectives, and I know people that like to sit and rewatch them. I just never see that kind of love for the Transformers films. Apart from maybe thr first one, I don't get the sense people are lining up to watch the other 6. They're loud, annoying, and dated. Same goes for Pirates of The Carribean. One good movie, four middling sequels we can just ignore.

It’s all starting to make sense now.

It’s how they assumed sexually active men spoke. People without necessary social skills to be around women and men learn from TV, not reality. TV heavily leaned into presenting the most lucky(?) of men as manipulative jackasses, nerds pick up on it and act as if styling themselves as a misogynistic ‘dominant’ would give the impression they know how to speak to women. It’s why this “alpha-male” mentality is so prevalent in nerd spaces, and why so many “alphas” come across as really bitter losers. It’s why those “Andrew Tate is destroying the youth” Guardian articles always seem overblown to me. Most boys know girls don’t like that shit and don’t take it seriously at all.

Just in case you don’t know about Harry Knowles and aintitcool

This is Harry Knowles BTW

It's the kids. Kids haven't returned in full to the cinema and they were responsible for softening up these cinemascore and posttrack grades. Whatever is turning off the women with this film also means mothers aren't taking their kids to see it. There's also a massive problem with the movie itself which is causing lower than usual grades with younger audiences that did show up. (Mods don't kill me. I think this stuff relates to the BO here).

After The Flash received "NWH level feedback" from twst audiences, I'm bit trusting this Blue Beetle stuff at all.

Thats funny. They told me 2 months ago that The Flash was the greatest piece of cinema since Edison brought film to light.

The Flash has been on TV for 10 Years, and globally it's one of Americas biggest TV shows which sounds insane, but those CW DC shows air on large mainstream public broadcasters internationally (Superman and Lois airs on the BBC over here). Gotham Knights was a top show on HBO Max International a couple weeks ago.

Nobody knows who Ezra Miller is. The problem was that he wasn't able to promote the movie at all. No little fun YouTube skits. No car tie-in ads, no phone tie-ins ads. No images of him on a pack of frozen vegetables. No interviews. No photoshoots. No presence.

Just to go further on this: Universal have produced 4 flops this year - most of the movies they only distributed also flopped Paramount have produced 3 flops this year Sony have produced 4 flops this year - most of the movies they only distributed also flopped

Universal, Sony, and Paramount have released a total of 15 BO flops combined this year so far. The BO is not in a healthy place at all. It's still in recovery.

That's not what going on with that joke and you know it.

Because it was funny and bending every joke backwards to assess how tasteful they are would mean we would get no jokes.

This is a white man. A conquistador from Europe.

Woke up to the madness. You couldn't tall me this was possible a couple weeks ago.

The guys behind that well received Dungeons and Dragons film were signed onto write and direct this too at one point.

At this point I kinda feel as if most LGBT representation in a major productions is gonna be locked away to an R-Rating at this point. I don’t think DreamWorks, Illumination, and Sony have any at all in the PG movies.

I feel like my ads are for something very specific but I don’t want to speculate because I feel as I could be catastrophically wrong. Like… are these cycling shorts and baking equipment, or something else entirely?

This happens with most big movies. People in this thread need to stop equating Twitter hijinks with reality.

Deadline ignoring the fact The Flash is one of the most popular TV Shows on earth to try and spin these numbers is INSANE. Even if the show isn't all that popular in the US, the franchise has had 10+ years of mainstream promotion.

Dear lord god, are the numbers worse than we thought?!?!?!

The Nolan movies still play well with the young people today. Movies havent significantly evolved in the 15 years since 2008. The change in, and I hate to say stuff like this, the language of cinema was far more dramatic and barrier inducing during the 15 years between 2008 and 1993. Frankly a lot more post-2000 films have held up with the kids in a way I don't remember 90's and 80's movies doing when I was younger.

They saw Keaton's Batman and a bunch of cameos and assumed that's all it took. It feels like they cynically thought we were going to look at this and lose our minds. Michael Keaton as Batman is not relevant, and I'm sorry to the old people that don't like hearing it. He's one of three Batmen from the 90s. His films had great style, but aside from that they're just OK. I think the Raimi SpderMan films held more relevance to younger audiences that came after than the Burton Bat films. Christian Bale would've been more universally appealing. The multiverse cameo angle could've brought about a lot of cool opportunities in the promotional aspect, but they're handled HORRIBLY. They don't interact with the movie, they look atrocious, and, apart from maybe one of them, I think people are gonna have a hard time making out what's what and who's who.