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Wonka 2 is going to be huge. WB really did win 2023.
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2 hours ago, Torontofan said:
TLJ was not a bad movie, it just took the franchise into a direction a lot of the fanbase dont like.
TROS of skywalker was just a confused movie trying to Retcon TLJ lol
TLJ would have seen a dramatically better reception with just a handful of tiny edits. Lose the absurd clip of Luke about to kill young Kylo, use whatever means necessary to have Leia be the one who sacrifices herself to save the fleet, and make it clear that Luke is alive at the end of the film.
After it proved so divisive, how on Earth Disney didn't realize that they couldn't end with the next film is beyond me. They needed a course correction film before the ending.
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The "WB December" commercial was a great touch. Wonka, Aqua, and Purple are going to combine for a lot of money.
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2 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:
Who cares? It made 43M in just 37 markets, many of them are seeing daily growth
It’s actually the opposite, while DOM seems to be heading to a good but normal 150M-ish, OS can try +300M with holidays if the next markets are strong like this weekend markets.
Domestic is going to be real tough to predict. The slew of strong headline it is receiving will help significantly.
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Yeah no idea where this will end up, holidays + elite word of mouth + wide open market = optimal combination
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Unlike Aquabro 2, Superman: Legacy will have a large curiosity as the launch of a new series. Beyond that, Gunn simply has to make a high quality film. There is no other way to put it. It has to be a mid 80s or better RT score type of critical reception.
Of course, if one wants SL to possibly truly breakout from day 1, yes a visual reinvention of sorts akin to Batman 1989 or TDK's version of The Joker might be needed to catch everyones attention. Everything about it just has to scream "Fresh and modern!".
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Watch this movie end up with 85% RT score.
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The word of mouth is tremendous and the market is basically wide open, tough to say where this ends up but its going to play well for the next 6 or 7 weeks.
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6 hours ago, ZeroHour said:
WB just sort of does this with their franchise movies.
The way too long delays for Aquabro 2, The Batman 2 and Joker 2 say hi. They better not make mistake with Barbie 2.
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Reception is all that matters for this type of film right now, good job by the team.
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They really highlight TC's bone structure in these ads like he's a young Josh Hartnettt, so much chisel with that flow
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Wonka + Dune 2 could def. solid him as something, but he needs to carry his own IP to be the next Leo.
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What a weird, bizarre film. What did I just watch? Pike is a enormously underrated actress who should have broken out bigly after Gone girl but somehow did not.
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1 hour ago, Eric Wonka said:
People have the right to be negative on something just like you have the right to be positive on something.
Elon, is that you?!
I kid, I kid.
This trailer is dope.
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3 hours ago, dudalb said:
People are stilling buying into the whole '"Real Life Tony Stark" BS, I see. But a lot fewer of them.
Huh
Tell it like it is. What his company, Tesla, has done is largely remarkable. What his company, SpaceX, has done is fascinating. Musk was big Dem supporter for some very important elections.
I dislike his recent behavior as much anyone, but it is revisionist history to act as if Musk has done nothing redeeming in his career.
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Musk basically said in the same interview to ignore the crazy stuff he impulsively says and pay more attention to the broad trends of his actions, which are obviously mostly impressive.
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can't wait to see this! (said nobody from any political party)
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How does anyone blame Iger for post-covid Disney debacle? Iger's intention for D+ in 2019 was for it to be a supplemental, "Disney TV channel on steroids" platform to compliment their robust theatrical channel. Covid forced Chapek and company to - logically, I would add - lean heavily on it while theaters were closed. Also, to state the absolute obvious, Bob Iger was by far the most qualified person to take over for Chapek on such short notice.
Iger's biggest mistake was botching the handling of Star Wars pre-Covid. It is hard dot even blame him for Chapek given the historically rough waters that Chapek was forced to navigate. The moves that he has been criticized for as of late were largely requirements due to the problems of 2020-2022.
Give them some time.
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Godzilla and Kong 2, Dune 2, Joker 2, The Batman 2, Barbie 2, and Wonka 2 are certainly a solid group of sequels for the coming 26-30 months for them to build around.
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55 minutes ago, Flip said:
Barbie 2 seems like the type of movie that won’t release until at least 6 years from now
Barbie is not a film which needs to begin filming 18 months before release.
Christmas themed Barbie 2 for Christmas 2025 seems like a beyond obvious choice.
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27 minutes ago, dudalb said:
The trick is to be fresh but still give people the Supes they have grown up with. The problem with that bad Abrams script is its' Supes is NOT the Supes we know and love. You need to be very, very, careful when dealing with a charecter as iconic as Superman.
More than anything, it is important to be true to the tone and values of the characters history while presenting them in a modern way. Beyond this, moviegoers rarely care much if there are some minor changes to make the film more in line with contemporary expectations. Few people cared when Burton's Joker killed Batman's parents because it worked within the film. Virtually nobody cared when Nolan completely altered the Harvey Dent character in TDK because it worked within the context of the film. On the flip side, A LOT of people cared when Clark was a mopey, smile free, Edward Cullen wannabe in MAN OF STEEL and his Superman cared more about hurdling tankers and posing in front of the explosion than saving anyone. The film made bank opening weekend because it had a modern, flashy look, but the outraged fans really hurts legs. Bryan Singer's Superman Returns featured a character portrayal much closer to the sincere goodness of the character, but presented it with a gloomy, weird, retro vibe that didn't fit with the mid 2000s whatsoever, and it suffered financially because of it.
I will forever maintain that draft 2 of the Abrams script was an excellent mix of 2000s action cinema while staying largely true to the character and tone of Superman. Draft 1 has its highs and lows as everyone knows. Draft 2 dumped "Luthor is kryptonion" and blew up Krypton while keeping the epic action traditional character riffs. The cast of Anthony Hopkins as Jor-el, Robert Downey Jr as Lex Luthor, and Joel Egerton as Zod-like original character Ty-Zor would be excellent too. Either of McG's favorites Josh Hartnett and Matt Bomer would have been great in the leading role. It is a shame we missed out on it.
Superman: Legacy needs to look and feel fresh and modern, but no doubt it needs to present the characters in ways which are true to their classic selves.
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If WB comes out of 2023 with enormous hunger for Barbie 2 and Wonka 2, they have had a monster year.
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2 hours ago, poweranimals said:
They already did that in 1978.
That was Superman: The Movie. And it was in 1978.
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Wonka looking at huge WOM legs over next few weeks. Its multiplier through January will be massive.