Eric the Marxist
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Half-convinced WB should try to get a Corpse Bride re-release out in time for Halloween, especially if 🪲🧃 really does crazy numbers and really rejuvenates some Burton nostalgia.
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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:
Grace Randolph has done a video about Alien Romulus saying it’s a dreadful opening and it should’ve been doing Jurassic World numbers….
For anyone who wants a laugh or a headache. 🤦🏻♂️
She must be stopped.
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Quorum Updates
Killer's Game T-25: 20.98% Awareness, 44.69% Interest
Speak No Evil T-25: 29.51% Awareness, 50.37% Interest
White Bird T-46: 15.62% Awareness, 37.78% Interest
Blink Twice T-4: 34.38% Awareness, 46.73% Interest
Final Awareness: 41% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 29% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M
The Crow T-4: 44.22% Awareness, 49.77% Interest
Final Awareness: 78% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 60% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M
The Forge T-4: 20.08% Awareness, 40.08% Interest
Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 14% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M
1992 T-11: 21.48% Awareness, 44.31% Interest
Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 14% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M
Afraid T-11: 23.01% Awareness, 47.28% Interest
Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M
Never Let Go T-32: 25.18% Awareness, 47.96% Interest
T-30 Awareness: 54% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 63% chance of 10M
T-30 Interest: 59% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 68% chance of 10M
Flight Risk T-60: 28% Awareness, 48.36% Interest
T-60 Awareness: 60% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 38% chance of 10M
T-60 Interest: 61% chance of 10M
Low Interest: 32% chance of 10M
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Really liked this, but the Ian Holm stuff is genuinely some of the most infuriating stuff ever. Does anybody actually, unironically like this whole "deepfake a dead actor to life" thing movies are now doing? Or even just this whole "deepfake somebody to look younger" in general, like they're doing with Mark Hamill? Like from what I can gather, everybody hates it, it costs a fortune to do...why can't you just do a recast? And in this case, you didn't even need Ian Holm since he's just an android and not the character from the first movie. It's so stupid.
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Okay, after this post comes up, I'm re-opening the thread. Now I got a couple things to say before I open stuff up. Some points apply to everybody, others for specific people. But either way, I hope everybody takes what I say to heart, or else more warning points will come towards certain users' way. And if anybody has an issue with the post I am making, please talk to me privately. We are done with this discussion publicly.
1. It is very valid to bring up the issues many POC projects do in fact face when it comes to box office potential, harassment campaigns, etc. However, that doesn't mean people can't still be negative on a film's prospects nor does that automatically mean they are above criticism. @Spidey Freak there was no need to make some sort of accusations of racism because people think Cap 4 might not do well at the box office.
2. This applies to those who love to mock, denigrate, and attack Zatt. I understand that Zatt and his posts are not everybody's cup of tea. And yes, he deserves to be held accountable for his actions. Believe me. But fighting fire with fire and insulting him back, making posts that directly mock him, and simply trying to reason with somebody who very clearly does not have any interest in being reasoned with does not help this situation at all. I suggest next time, to everybody, that the next time Zatt or any user you dislike is damaging or derailing the forum, please just hit the Report button. Or better yet, @ me or another mod specifically when they start to misbehave. It's certainly better than dunking on somebody unfairly.
3. Now, here's my big spiel. @ZattMurdock I understand it can be frustrating to see people be negative and pessimistic on movies you love and are looking forward to. I think it's something we all can relate to. And I understand that maybe some people should reconfigure their expectations on certain Marvel productions. However, you have gone way too far these past couple weeks. You have derailed threads many a time whenever people are even the slightest bit critical of Marvel and superhero movies. You repeat ad nauseum that people are out to get Marvel and set these unfair expectations against them, but then act holier than thou against many other franchises and figures who do not like Marvel. You claim that it's okay for certain Marvel projects to not hit a billion, but then constantly fight other people who say that a Marvel movie may potentially not hit certain thresholds or numbers. And just this past weekend, you accused not one, but two different users of being racist, in a very patronizing and condescending tone. It's pretty egregious too, as Wattage's posts in particular indicate that they are also Black. And yet here you are saying they don't understand the importance of a Black Captain America. How ironic indeed.
People are very frustrated with your posts, and for good reason. People don't like it when a user refuses to accept a different opinion. People don't like it when you start fights for no reason. Are people being negative on Marvel movies really such an injustice? Is the $32 billion juggernaut franchise that has made more money than anybody here will ever make in their lifetimes really something you have to posit as some scrappy underdog? Do you have to create strawmans or go after users because they "don't get" a franchise or character's popularity? No. So why do it?
And in fact, you have constantly gone on, over and over and over and over again, about how much you hate BOT. How much you think this community doesn't understand Marvel and its box office. How this place is basically just another 4chan. How you have expressed many a time that you are leaving this place forever because of the community. So, and this is a rhetorical question...why are you here? If you hate what this place has become and don't like most of the users, why hang out in a place you hate? We're not the only place on the Internet where you can talk about Marvel, so why stick around in an area that you don't care for? It's like a vegetarian walking into a steakhouse. What's the goal here?
I'm not saying you deserve to leave or that you don't bring value to this place. But I'm just asking you to please, please, please try to be mindful of what you post here. Try to put certain users on your ignore list. Don't start some whole "can you believe people are being so mean about Marvel when they are keeping theaters alive" rhetoric. And sometimes, if you see a post you disagree with, just...ignore it. I can assure you that the universe is not going to explode into a million pieces because you didn't respond to a user who said Thunderbolts might not be a hit. And if you think people are totally 100% wrong? Well...let people be wrong. I'm not expecting you to be perfect, but I just want you to try. It's okay for people to be negative on Marvel, and it's okay to just...let it be.
As I said before, we are done with this whole conversation and fighting. If anybody wants to talk with me about the post I made, please talk to me privately. If you don't, you will see a threadban. Thank you. That is all.
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Things are clearly getting heated, so I'm just going to lock things up before it gets any worse. Gonna also look over who needs warning points, who needs a talking to, and so on.
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17 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
Alien looking to do internationally what Twisters couldn’t.
Twisters performing domestically what Alien couldn’t.
Wild reversal, same end result.
I mean I don't think Alien Romulus ever had a chance of reaching 200M domestically, let alone 270M+
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16 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:
Scientology stuff aside he’s cool.
Oh...never mind. 😕
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48 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:
just watched horizon part 1. When your big sequel tease at the end is that giovanni ribisi is gonna be in the next one I can see why part 2 got condemned to the shadow realm.
What? I thought everybody like Giovanni Ribisi!
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7 minutes ago, Kon said:
To be fair, Alien could have horror elements, but it tends to be considered Action movie. This could affect the number of female audience it could attract.
Do you know how big the female audience was for previous Alien movies?
69% male for Covenant, so pretty close to what Romulus has.
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From Deadline:
QuoteTop 10 chart:
1.) Alien: Romulus (20th/Dis) 3,885 theaters, Fri $18M, 3-day $40M-$42M/Wk 1
2.) Deadpool & Wolverine (Dis) 3,960 (-370) theaters, Fri $8.1M (-48%) 3-day $27M (-50%), Total $543.8M/Wk 4
3.) It Ends With Us (Sony) 3,739 (+128) theaters, Fri $7.7M (-68%) 3-day $24M (-52%), Total $97.7M/Wk 2
4.) Twisters (Uni/WB) 3,483 (-181) theaters, $2.75M (-39%), 3-day $9.2M (-39%), Total $237.8M/Wk 5
5.) Coraline (Fath) 1,535 theaters, Fri $2.69M 3-day $8.3M, Total $11.4M/Wk 1
6.) Despicable Me 4 (Uni) 2,788 (-221) theaters, Fri $1.57M (-39%) 3-day $5.5M (-31%), Total $339.9M/Wk 7
7.) Trap (WB) 3,181 theaters, Fri $1M (-51%) 3-day $3.25M (-51%), Total $35M /Wk 3
8.) Inside Out 2 (Dis) 1,850 (-350) theaters Fri $820K (-47%) 3-day $2.9M (-40%) Total $641.8M/Wk 10
9.) Borderlands (LG) 3,125 theaters, Fri $680K (-83%), 3-day $2.2M (-74%), Total $13.3M/Wk 2
- Stree 2 (Parth) 666 theaters, Fri $600K, 3-day $2M, Total $2.4M/Wk 1
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https://deadline.com/2024/08/box-office-alien-romulus-1236042166/
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PLF and Imax are accounting for 52% of ticket sales so far for an audience that’s very dude at 70% male, 25-34 being the biggest demo at 33% with 18-34 attending at 60%. Diversity mix is 43% Caucasian, 26% Latino and Hispanic, 14% Black, 12% Asian and 6% NatAm/Other. Alien: Romulus is playing the best in the West, Mountain and South Central with the AMC Lincoln Square the highest grossing venue stateside with close to $70K so far.
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7 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Excluding the first two movies from each series, rank your top 3 from the Alien/Terminator/Predator movies.
Example:
1) Prey
2) Alien Romulus
3) Alien Resurrection
Not seeing Romulus until later today. Also haven't seen any Terminator movie past 2. So...
1. Prey
2. Alien 3
3. Predators
I'm going to assume Romulus will join the group here, because Predators is only just okay in my book.
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Will say that I was always skeptical over the 50M/60M projections people were making for Romulus. Alien has always been a niche, fan-driven property, and there was little I saw in the marketing that helped make it crossover to non-fans. But I mean, 40M+ is still a great result for a franchise that just hit its lowest financial point a few years ago and peaked back in the 80s. Plus the soft reboot and clean slate approach will probably help a potential sequel and the franchise in general going forward. I don't think Disney needs to fret here.
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@ZattMurdock @Cmasterclay Enough to the both of you. End this now, or threadbans will come your way.
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2 minutes ago, Blankments said:
10.4M for the weekend (because I'm sorry, yesterday was previews, I don't care how it's labeled) is absolutely bonkers. Glad it's doing well though; it's a modern classic.
You're a modern classic.
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25 minutes ago, TMP said:
I get that this forum is largely a place to discuss the financial metrics of a movie’s performance, but i have no idea why you’d want Furiosa to be a worse movie just so it’d be more commercially viable. Like surely we should be happy a movie as bold and artistically rich as that even exists at all, especially in a summer movie season as dry as this one was. Just feels weird to have so much cynicism over something that’s so clearly an artistic passion project which paid off (quality wise at least) just because audiences didn’t turn up
I don’t think anybody is saying they wish the movie was worse? Just saying why the movie didn’t do well financially and the reasons for it. And I think we are allowed to give our reasons without some sort of “gee that movie sure was great” comment
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19 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
Ehhh? Ripley/Signourey is kind of important to Alien lol. More importantly, I don't know too many hip, non-white people talking about fucking Alien nowadays, seems just as square as Mad Max, which is my general point. But I can't claim to have my fingers directly on the pulse or anything.
I was in the same boat, but to be fair horror does go a long way in getting nonwhite appeal. Like Halloween Ends had more Latino (36%) than Caucasian (33%). Although Kills had more Caucasian (38%) than Latino (33%). The recent Exorcist movie also had more Latino (41%) than Caucasian (30%). Just wanted to throw that out there.
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25 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Furiosa flopped because it arrived way too late to take advantage of whatever lingering goodwill Fury Road had nearly a decade later and on top of that was a prequel with a whole new cast. The draw for the Alien franchise will always be...well, the aliens.
8 minutes ago, CJohn said:You forget Furiosa was a prequel with an entire new cast and with no actual Mad Max. The main star of Alien was right there in all of the marketing.
To be fair, the first four movies had Sigourney Weaver, who is just as, if not more synonymous with Alien than the xenomorphs. And even with Prometheus, Michael Fassbender was all over the advertising, and he was fresh off both Inglorious Basterds and X-Men at the time. I think it was fair to say a cast full of no-name actors for a franchise that always had at least one recurring and popular actor could have been trouble. Especially since said franchise hasn't had a big crowdpleaser success since the Reagan administration. But I guess Clay and I were wrong.
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