Eric the Marxist

lol was about to say. Was really mad the pig didn’t do fun stuff in the ocean last time. Trailer itself? Looks like a Moana sequel alright. Which is a good thing! If you like Moana. If you don’t? Well…why would you watch this lol

Will say before the teaser potentially dashes my hopes that I would think going from TV series to movie may actually be a blessing for this creatively? The big issue most of these Disney+ shows have is that their pacing drags, as they all feel like movies being bloated and padded out to be 6 episode TV shows. You could take Obi-Wan or Falcon and the Winter Soldier, remove a subplot here and there, and get a 2.5 hour movie that, at the very least, fixes pacing issues. Condensing a bloated Moana sequel from 130 minutes to about 95 or 100 minutes? Sounds good to me!

That is very much not what that data implies whatsoever, and I’ve explained this numerous times already, but go off I guess. 🙄

I mean I warned you in that post a couple weeks earlier nothing changed. Shoulda listened to ol' Mr. NTC. 🍵

This would have been the funniest Vine of 2015...I miss Vine.

Quorum Updates Twisters T-53: 46.87% Awareness, 55.02% Interest The Forge T-88: 13.3% Awareness, 36.58% Interest Beetlejuice Beetlejuice T-102: 57.29% Awareness, 64.67% Interest Speak No Evil T-109: 20.25% Awareness, 47.81% Interest Here T-184: 8.33% Awareness, 34.17% Interest Kraven the Hunter T-200: 27.52% Awareness, 39.64% Interest Bad Boys for Life T-11: 64.06% Awareness, 58.03% Interest Final Awareness: 100% chance of 20M, 88% chance of 30M, 85% chance of 40M, 73% chance of 50M, 58% chance of 60M, 46% chance of 70M Medium Awareness: 100% chance of 70M Final Interest: 79% chance of 20M, 60% chance of 30M, 45% chance of 40M, 31% chance of 50M, 23% chance of 60M, 16% chance of 70M Medium Interest: 75% chance of 20M, 58% chance of 30M, 25% chance of 40M, 8% chance of 50M The Watchers T-11: 28.53% Awareness, 44.61% Interest Final Awareness: 16% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M Final Interest: 49% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 45% chance of 10M Horizon: An American Saga Part 1 T-32: 20.91% Awareness, 36.31% Interest T-30 Awareness: 54% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M Medium Awareness: 75% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M T-30 Interest: 32% chance of 10M, 6% chance of 20M Medium Interest: 50% chance of 10M

I mean I know from experience that outside of Harry Potter, the one non-Disney thing most Disney Adults adore is Broadway. And Wicked is one of the most iconic for that demographic. It's basically a Disney movie when you get down to it (not helped by Disney ripping it off like 5 times). At the very least, both dropping on the same day may not cause either movie to bomb, but it's still pretty foolish IMO

Disney's got such a weird thing going on where they just keep the same release dates for everything. Which like in the 2018 was reasonable, but they are way more vulnerable to competition now. Elemental got a lucky break where everything surrounding it ended up bombing, but Moana's probably not looking likely, at least at the moment. And either way, having it out in early November, getting IMAX and all of Dolby to itself, makes way more sense box office wise, especially since you should still get a good Thanksgiving hold. But I guess Disney's too stubborn or stupid to do it? It's dumb!

Why not?

Can confirm that I got goosebumps. Ariana's still unwatchable, but Cynthia Erivo's voice in that IMAX surround sound? Heavenly stuff. She's gonna kill Defying Gravity for sure.

Oh I never believed people didn’t want the same NTC slop anymore. If anything, it just kept getting worse. I’d love to be in a world where people actually were demanding like people claimed they were, but the math doesn’t math sadly.

In my opinion, they were a crucial part of these movies' appeal. Partly because of the real-life husband and wife connection, as well as how they help add a sense of emotional and familial grounding that isn't seen in a lot of horror movies. They may not be the deepest characters, but they play a big part in the popularity and quality of these films, and I feel it doesn't quite feel right not seeing them in this. But hey! Could just be me! Could be wrong!

Devil's advocate though: Kingdom of the Apes still did well, and it didn't have the original cast or characters. So hey! That could happen again!

I mean not really? Transformers has no Shia or Mark Wahlberg, but they aren't the reason people go to these. Rise of the Beasts still had Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee.

Might be the constant underperformance of horror and Furiosa bombing, but Quiet Place feels like an underperformer tbh. It has the same problem Furiosa has where there's almost none of the original cast (though I guess Djimon Honsou makes it a little better?), and the hook isn't even all that interesting. It's showing what happened the first day the aliens took over...which is something we already saw in Quiet Place 2. Just feels like one where opening in the 30s would be an achievement IMO

Moderation Yeah, we're gonna end this before it begins. It's too early in the day for this.

I will say that Twisters obviously won't gross as much as Top Gun Maverick, but it has a lot of the same vibes as that movie, so long as the film's got a banger RT score. And honestly, Lee Isaac Chung makes me feel pretty confident in that regard. Like it has some heartland/Americana stuff that can appeal to flyover states and rural/conservative areas, fun action and spectacle that you don't really see in movies anymore for PLF junkies, while potentially being a legit crowdpleasing and exciting movies for coastal elites like me. Plus, it's the only big PG-13 movie in town. So Deadpool will for sure hurt it on its second weekend, but it arguably stands out from all the R-rated mayhem coming afterwards. Weird to say PG-13 feels like counterprogramming, but this has been a weird summer. Again, it all depends on reviews, but I feel, at the very least, it will play well to underserved audiences.

They're currently where A24 was circa 2016/17 where they've had one or two solid hits, but the normies don't recognize their name just yet, nor do they have overpriced merch to make them seem cool to hipsters. I don't even think any of their movies have appeared on Netflix, while A24 hops to Netflix/Max/Hulu/Prime for mass exposure. I think Neon's stuff is Hulu-only. The guy who owns Neon threw shade at A24 for selling candles and shit, but that might not be a bad idea if they want to get to their level. Just saying.

He’s doing his job reporting on the box office. And yeah, talking about historical lows and being negative over those objective truths are part of the job. Even if you “knew it would happen”, that’s still terrible. I mean the bigger issue is that only one movie opened to the expectations from box office nerds and the industry. Everything else opened below expectations. Even if you think IF or Fall Guy were predicted too high, that’s still really bad, very alarming news. If you can’t even open to 35M or 45M like what the industry projected, how can you not be disappointed or say negative stuff about it?

Gotta be honest, the whole “Netflix movies have no impact” thing just doesn’t hold much water as the years go by. Like yeah, a lot of their movies come and go, but anecdotally, Don’t Look Up has been mentioned in climate change circles many a time,Leave the World Behind was brought up when some social media sites are down, Irishman is still brought up during Scorsese discussions online, Marriage Story memes were a huge thing, Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio gets brought up as a modern animated classic. Like Lana Condor was on Abbott Elementary a few weeks ago, and tweets were out saying “Look, it’s Lara Jean”. Sure, they might not be talked about as much as they do when they first came out, but that’s how every movie works. There’s a peak time for discussion for anything, then it dies down. Everything Everywhere isn’t talked as much after the Oscars, but you can’t say the movie isn’t popular. Really, the big reason why most Netflix movies don’t “leave impact” is because a good chunk of them either aren’t in popular media franchises that have been around for decades, or simply aren’t good or interesting. Like quality is a far bigger issue here than the platform, since the movies I listed all were a step above quality, or at least have more to say about them. Plus being a box office hit doesn’t automatically mean your movie left some big cultural impact. Like honestly, when was the last time you saw somebody talk about Free Guy out in the wild?

You're not a real movie.