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11 minutes ago, a2knet said:
If Juamnji is 8.5-9.5 this weekend and TGS is 7, can TGS crack top 3 next weekend?
50 Shades
Rabbit
TGS/Jumanji
edit: Well, there's also The 15:17 to Paris
15:17 should at least cross $10M, so no.
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http://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-ready-player-one-easter-releases/
Fifty Shades: 40/98 (total down 2%)
Peter Rabbit: 19/73 (total down 6%)
Black Panther: 139/400 (OW up 5%, total up 8%)
Annihilation: 14/50 (OW down 7%)
Every Day: 3/7.5 (NEW)
Game Night: 16/55 (OW down 6%)
Hurricane Heist: 6/15 (NEW)
Paul, Apostle of Christ: 13/51 (NEW)
RPO: 54/180 (NEW)
God's Not D3ad: 6/15.4 (NEW)
Acrimony: 19/46 (NEW)
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And Han, if you're still lost, just watch this video from Royal Ocean Film Society (aka one of the best video essayists on YT)
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12 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
Runtimes without credits and trailer attachments for next week:
Fifty Shades: 1:40. Attachments are Blockers (new red band) and Mamma Mia!
15:17 to Paris: 1:29. Attachments unknown.
Peter Rabbit: 1:26. Attachments unknown.
15:17: Probably Tomb Raider and Game Night.
Peter Rabbit: Hotel Transylvania and Into the Spider-Verse
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2 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:
The only hobby I have is watching movies, which hasn't really been happening over the past month like I said. I also like going to theme parks, but as I said, that's totally dependent on my dad's schedule because my parents won't let me drive that far by myself.
I used to play a few instruments (piano/trombone/bass) but stopped. Idk if that would still interest me or not because I was only renting the instruments and got bored with them a few years ago.
I'm totally at a loss with hobbies.
If I can recommend a hobby, and this goes to everyone on this board, reading and writing is a perfect thing to pass the time. With writing, you can use it to strengthen your creativity as well as let out steam in a productive way. I've been having a lot of stress with both my job, my school work, and trying to further my own career, so expressing that in either angry rants or even through poetry helps give exercise to my brain muscles, gives me some good break time, and helps let out steam.
Reading is also a great tool, because it's more or less like a movie, but more stimulating, and can offer more creativity, considering books are free to be as long or as descriptive as they want. And what's great is that you can find so many different genres to choose from, from fiction to non-fiction, from narrative to how-to, and you have the power to choose what you want. If you don't want to read Shakespeare, that's fine. If you want to read Steinbeck, go on right ahead. If you want to read a book about oceanography or architecture, then go on right ahead. Even if you want to read something that's not in your target demographic, like Judy Blume, then do it. And if you're like me, and you have issues focusing and paying attention to the book, then find an audiobook. I found one for The Gunslinger on YouTube, and it's helped me stay more alert and focused on what's on the paper.
Another strong recommendation is exercise. And no, I'm not saying you have to go to a gym. Just doing some push-ups and leg lifts at home, or even buying one or two dumbbells and using them in your basement will get the job done in getting your heart pumping and giving you some energy. I'd also recommend just taking a walk. Even if where you live doesn't offer anything like a forest, just taking a walk or even a jog around your neighborhood and houses is a perfect timekiller and an enjoyable hobby.
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6 hours ago, filmlover said:
The Internet, six years ago: "lol we will never hear about or see Octavia Spencer ever again after that Oscar win!"
Octavia, six years, two additional nominations, and a ton of other interesting projects later:
Amazing how only ten years ago, her biggest claim to fame was a guest starring role as the villain on a Disney Channel show.
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2 hours ago, Jay Hollywood said:
Wheres my Noah Baumbach MIB movie!?
Was that really in development?
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32 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Lmfao, the man's ego is out of control lately. I feel like he's actually his wrestling persona in real life these days.
Makes him perfect to be the POTUS.
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Winchester 33 1408 2.34%
Winchester's at 56% of Happy Death Day ($14.6M) and 42% of Insidious 4 ($12.5M). Don't have anything from Jigsaw to use that as a comparison.
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Hey everyone, the #1 slots are on the way, but I should mention a couple of things:
First, I'm sorry that the postings have been more sporadic for me lately. I'm back in college, and the way that my schedule is now working means that I basically have to work on courses and assignments on the weekdays, and deal with super busy and long shifts at my part-time job on the weekend. Then you add on an unfortunate case of mild seasonal depression, and I just don't have much time or energy to sit down and write up my stuff. But I promise, I will get this done by the time Black Panther weekend rolls around.
Second, before I get into #1, I actually do have to make an addendum. If you've been following the box office at all within the past couple of weeks, you know that there's a movie out that's been having phenomenal holds after an awful opening. I feel it's an incredible run that warrants discussion, so I'll be adding an addendum to the wins list. Just pretend that it's a #11 spot, I guess.
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WIN #2
GET OUT
"If I could, I would have voted for Obama for a third term."
Release Date: February 24
Director: Jordan Peele
Cast: Daniel Kaluuya, Allison Williams, Bradley Whitford, Caleb Landry Jones, Stephen Root, Lakeith Stanfield, Catherine Keener
B.O. Gross: $175.9M DOM, $254.9M
Unlike The Mummy, Get Out, on paper, seemed like it would have made nowhere near as much money as it did. Obviously it would still be a hit (with a $5 million budget, it was practically forced to be a hit), but become one of the top 15 grossers of the year? It seemed near impossible even a week before it came out.
It premiered in late February, which isn’t necessarily a bad release date, but not some massive tentpole weekend like in the summer, March, or even pre-President’s Day or President’s Day weekend. It’s a horror-comedy, which has always been hit-and-miss when it comes to box office. It wasn’t based on any established brand or setting up some sort of shared universe, like Stephen King, or The Conjuring, unless you want to count Blumhouse. It was a cheap film, only a $4.5 million budget, so it wasn’t like Universal had plans to make it into some tentpole giant. The film had zero starpower, to the point where the biggest name was the director, Jordan Peele. Speaking of Peele, not only was it his directorial debut, meaning audiences didn’t know how he was as a filmmaker, but he also was best known for being on a sketch comedy show. Why on earth was he making a horror film? And having the main topic of the film be on the horrors of racism, a touchy subject that is often dodged instead of addressed, especially after the recent US election, made this seem like a film destined for $30 million at most. Even Jordan Peele thought it wasn’t going to be a big hit, as he quoted in Los Angeles Times, “What if white people don't want to come see the movie because they're afraid of being villainized with black people in the crowd? What if black people don't want to see the movie because they don't want to sit next to a white person while a black person is being victimized on-screen?”
And then, it premiered at Sundance to rave reviews. People praised the film for its writing, direction, acting, the whole shebang. But even if it was critically-acclaimed, that still didn’t automatically mean it would make boffo numbers.
But as review buzz continued to grow, and the market was close to empty, the film opened to $33.4 million on Oscar weekend, which is somewhat ironic when you consider the #OscarsSoWhite controversy that emerged a year before the movie came out. When that happened, even Peele and Blum dropped their jaws. Here, this politically-charged horror film managed to become #1 and go above its $20-25 million tracking by a significant margin, shocking the industry and automatically turning Jordan Peele into a Hollywood superstar. And then, next weekend rolled around. With horror being a frontloaded genre, and with the debut of the hotly-anticipated Logan, most expected the film would take a big drop. But miraculously, it didn’t. Thanks to strong and passionate word of mouth, the film dropped a slim 15% in weekend two, earning $28.2 million. That never happens to horror movies. Just dropping around 45% would be considered amazing. This proved this was here to stay, word was incredibly strong, and people were willing to have this movie be as big of a priority as a Marvel movie.
Next week also saw the release of Kong: Skull Island, which generated an impressive opening and along with Logan took up a lot of screens. And yet Get Out was not deterred, as it only dropped 27% in weekend three, and on that weekend it had broken the $100 million threshold, a threshold that seemed impossible to reach just a couple of weeks ago. It ensured the film would become one of the biggest horror films in years.
Weekend four saw Beauty and the Beast, a massive four-quad tentpole capturing all audiences from all demographics. Surely it would have left a dent in Get Out’s performance. Again, Get Out wasn’t deterred. It dropped 35%, the lowest drop in the top 10, and was only $3 million or so behind Split, meaning that the film would soon surpass that film and become the biggest film. It later beat Split the following Wednesday. Then the next few weeks saw even more phenomenal holds (34%, 36%, 28%, 26%), and the film managed to end by grossing above $175 million, making it the biggest R-rated horror film since Blair Witch Project...then it was unseated by It, but we’ve already gone on about that film. Overseas also wasn’t too shabby, especially since the topic was targeted strictly at American audiences, making it gross over $250 million
I’m sure many people would be confused as to why a film that did only $250M would be so high up on the list, while other films made upwards of $500M, $750M or even $1B are ranked lower. The thing to remember when it comes to my rankings is that surprise factor plays a huge part in my rankings. If you do what’s expected, you’re not anything special. With Get Out, no one, and I do mean no one expected this movie to make the money that it did. $175 million meant that the film outgrossed a good chunk of major franchise films that came out this year, including Kong, Pirates, Apes, Transformers, and so many more.
So why was this film such a hit? The main reason, ironically, comes down to its content. The topic of racism has been addressed multiple times in film, but this is one of the first to move away from the stereotypical “redneck racism” or the “I’m not a racist, but...”, but instead focus on “West Wing liberals” and their accidental racism. Their ways on how they treat black people more as commodities or accessories instead of people. How they try to hide their obsession with their skin color, yet fail to do so. How they try to combat racism, and yet do more harm than good.
It was an idea that had never been done before, at least in mainstream cinema, and using it as a horror film at a dangerous political time for many African-Americans really made it something people responded to. This led to an incredible opening weekend, and with Jordan Peele’s sharp writing, intense direction, and brilliant commentary, the film struck a chord, and made people go out of their way to be a part of the conversation and either reaffirm or learn about what Mr. Peele has to say about modern race relations in America.
This film was a part of a banner year for many different creatives who had worked on the film, from the actors, producers, and of course the director.
Daniel Kaluuya, who was mostly a part of British TV like Skins and Black Mirror, was a complete unknown in the States, but thanks to this film, he has quickly become one of the most exciting up-and-comers in years. His performance as Chris, both as a relatable protagonist, a symbol of century-long oppression, and him effectively dealing with the subtle racism many African-Americans have to deal with every day led him garnering multiple accolades, including the BAFTA, the SAG, the Golden Globe, and the Oscar. He’s already attached to Black Panther, and hopefully Steve McQueen will give him a meaty role in the film Widows, so that we can see him in the Oscar nomination list again.
Jason Blum has always been one of the savviest producers out there. Take a film that costs about as much as the catering for a Marvel film, make effective-looking trailers to get butts into seats, and make profit on the first weekend alone. It’s led to several massive hits, like Paranormal Activity, Insidious, and The Purge, but Get Out was a huge factor in a banner year for Blum and his production company. Get Out landed at the Oscars. Split grossed over $278 million worldwide, generating a new franchise. Even Happy Death Day was a sleeper hit, becoming the choice horror film for the Halloween season, and potentially turning Jessica Rothe into a new Hollywood star. Blumhouse’s strong momentum is continuing into the new year, as the latest Insidious film, The Last Key, delivered over $29 million in its opening weekend, the second highest in the franchise, and the film is expected to end up with around $70 million domestic, and $150 million worldwide, making it, again, the second biggest film in the franchise. The next few films slated for release, Truth or Dare, The Purge 4, and Halloween, are also set to be box office smashes when they release too.
However, the man that garnered the most success is Jordan Peele himself, as he is now the most sought-after director in Hollywood, with a ton of projects on his plate. His next project is the TBS sitcom The Last O.G., coming in March, with other TV projects including the HBO drama Lovecraft Country, which will be co-produced with J.J Abrams, a Nazi hunting drama called The Hunt, which is currently being bidded on by different television networks, and another revival of The Twilight Zone for the streaming service CBS All Access. Film-wise, he’s already attached as a producer for the upcoming Spike Lee film Black Klanman, which is expected to drop sometime this year and hopefully becomes an Oscar contender, and in March 2019, he has yet another social thriller currently under wraps, in what is expected to be a long list of other social thrillers within the next few years.
In all, Get Out became an out-of-nowhere monster that launched a promising new director’s career to new heights overnight, represented an incredible year for both its production company and its genre, and more importantly, has helped bring racism and white-black relations into productive and meaningful discussion, something very few films this year had done this year. That, and more, is plenty enough reason for Get Out to be in the #2 slot.
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FAIL #2
THE MUMMY
"Welcome to a new world of gods and monsters."
Release Date: June 9
Director: Alex Kurtzman
Cast: Tom Cruise, Annabelle Wallis, Sofia Boutella, Jake Johnson, Courtney B. Vance, Russell Crowe
B.O. Gross: $80.2M DOM, $409.2M WW
Sweet cheese and crackers, what happened? This film, on paper, had everything going for it, and it managed to tank so hard it not only destroyed its own franchise, but made so many studio executives shaky on the whole “cinematic universe” idea. It’s actually rather sad, as with this film, things were supposed to come full circle.
As I’ve stated before, once Marvel hit it big with the MCU, every studio wanted to cash in on their own shared universe. But believe it or not, this wasn’t the first time this type of franchise happened. In the 1920s, Universal, which was home to several classic monsters like Dracula, Frankenstein, the Wolfman, and others, had been the home to many classic horror films, but in the 1940s, they took the idea of these timeless characters sharing the same realm and put that into film, with crossovers, versus films, and team-up features that continued throughout the decade.
Decades later, with Marvel and DC making so much money, Universal decided to give the Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe idea another shot, with their first outing being...Dracula Untold. But the movie had mediocre box office and reviews, and literally nobody remembers that film, so the first true outing was with The Mummy, which in all honesty was a good film to start out with.
The previous reboot starring Brendan Fraser was a massive hit, and the sequel was just as big, and while the third film that came out in 2008 disappointed, it still had enough relevancy to still be remembered, and enough time had passed that audiences would likely be open to a reboot. It also featured superstar Tom Cruise, and while he may not be the name he once was, seeing him in an action tentpole not unlike Mission: Impossible was a smart idea. Then you add on some distinct action setpieces, including a plane crash and a chase through London, and while it might not have been anything great, it would have been a decent-sized hit at the box office.
Universal certainly seemed confident, as before the movie came out, they put out an online promo that proudly cheered the film and its creation of what would be called the “Dark Universe.” They had already begun casting the other monsters, including Russell Crowe as Dr. Jekyll, Javier Bardem as Frankenstein’s Monster, and Johnny Depp as the Invisible Man. Universal was also in negotiations with Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Johansson, and even Dwayne Johnson for other roles (Frankenstein’s Bride, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Wolfman respectively).
And then, the reviews came out. Just about everyone trashed the film for being dull, incoherent, poorly-acted, poorly-directed, and for having too many shoehorned elements that attempted to set up the “Dark Universe.” When audiences first got to see the film, they were just as repulsed as critics, with the film earning a “B-” Cinemascore, and opening below a tracked $35-40 million opening, with only $31.7 million, the lowest of all the recent Mummy films, including The Scorpion King. Word of mouth was so toxic, the next few weekends dramatically dropped, leading to the film only earning $80.2 million domestically. Worldwide wasn’t completely awful, as it did gross more than $400 million, but the film’s high production and marketing costs meant the film is estimated to have lost $95 million for Universal.
With this film being such a critical and financial disaster, Universal, failing to count their chickens before they hatched, has already pulled the brakes on the idea. 2019 was supposed to see Bride of Frankenstein, directed by Bill Condon, and rumored to star Angelina Jolie. But on November 2017, the people in charge of the universe, Alex Kurtzman and Chris Morgan, had moved on to other projects, and while there are rumors the production team for Bride have begun turning the gears again, only with Gal Gadot in the title role, the other planned films in the franchise are likely to be dead in the water, and I doubt Bride of Frankenstein will even get made, leading to one of Universal’s biggest failures of the decade.
So, why did something that seemed so lucrative and easy to market and release flop so hard? For one, the focus on the cinematic universe. There’s nothing wrong with cinematic universes, but the problem comes, like with King Arthur, when you focus on making your sixth movie first, and your first movie last. Nobody cares about the other monsters, or Russell Crowe as Dr. Jekyll. People want Tom Cruise running around, kicking ass, and fighting a mummy. If you can’t deliver on something so basic, then you failed big time. Second, the film was just not good. Again, people just want to see Tom Cruise run around, kick ass, and fight a mummy. But instead, people got a confusing plot, boring characters and action scenes, and a forgettable mess of a product.
It’s a shame too, because I actually like the idea of the Dark Universe in concept. Yeah, it sounds kinda corny, but a Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe was a great success before, horror can and should deliver box office grosses on the level of massive tentpoles, and these monsters are important, timeless characters who deserve to be appreciated by a new generation. But sorry to say, this is certainly not the way to do it. Maybe Universal will one day crack the code and deliver a universe that’s exciting, fun, scary, and entertaining, but it's best the whole idea stays dead for a little while longer.
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On 1/23/2018 at 6:42 PM, Tree Billboards said:
I like your list.
Few things:
The Great Wall is not Matt Damon's "highest grossing" film, if you mean like 3rd or 4th then sure but there are 2 Bourne movies that grossed 400+ and one of the Oceans might of, not sure.
Why is Valerian a fail? It's a minor miracle that a studio can make a profit off a 180M film that only grosses 200M. That's a win in my eyes.
DM3 did not have a "massive" drop from Minions, it was a 20% drop.
Why is Lego Ninjago a big fail? Compared to some of the runners up at least. It's a movie that's made to shift plastic toys. The Lego Movie not so much as it wasn't based on any existing Lego products but Ninjago was just made to sell Ninjago toys, and I'll bet anything that it worked.
Why is The Dark Tower a big fail? 112M on 60M budget yeah not very good, but it's not that bad. It grossed more than King Arthur in america and cost a third of the budget, yet is higher on your list... sometimes you can kick off a new series, sometimes you can't.
Please amend your suggestion that "we all love" BR2049. It's one of the worst films of the year.
What's Kingsman a disappointment for? It made a similar gross to the first movie, on a similar budget. They're going ahead with the third movie since the second was a success. I think it's a little premature to claim "it seems like it will be a movie the director keeps saying he's working on but will never actually come to fruition." it's been like 3 months since the film came out. Give it a chance.
Props to giving Paramount a shout out on the fails list.
-The Great Wall: I was talking about his highest-grossing film for the year. Not all-time.
-Valerian: Well, I don't consider making $225M on a $180M+ budget as anything "success worthy," especially since it caused layoffs at EuropaCorp, but okay. If anything, having it as a dishonorable mention is far more generous than what most people would put the film at.
-DM3: Still, domestic-wise, I feel as if the movie could have done better, both as a follow-up to two monster $330M+ grossers, and when its biggest competitor was Cars 3, which came and went this year, I feel it should have at least crossed $275M, and not make only $15M more than the first film 7 years ago. Maybe "massive" was too strong a word, but I still think the movie could have done a touch better.
-Lego Ninjago: It costed only $10 million less than Lego Batman, and the Lego film series was something WB prioritized as one of their big tentpole franchises. Even as a spin-off, with the name recognition of the franchise, you really think WB wanted this to gross less than Storks or Happy Feet Two, and aren't satisfied with the film failing to even gross $150M worldwide?
-Dark Tower: For King Arthur, WB has many strong franchises, was something no one was clamoring for, and was automatically predicted to be a bomb. For Dark Tower, Sony has a limited roster of franchises, was a property King fans wanted to see adapted for years, and had plenty of potential to be a hit series (J.J. Abrams and Ron Howard were originally attached for a reason). It killed off something promising and exciting to fans, and all of the plans Sony had envisioned in one fell swoop. Also, how much money was lost is only one of many factors, and Dark Tower had more negative factors in its gross than Arthur, at least IMHO.
-Blade Runner: I was generalizing, considering the film garnered critical acclaim and has a lot of fans here on BOT.
-Kingsman: There's a reason I said "seems like." Obviously, I don't have a crystal ball, but considering the film did drop from its predecessor, when many believed the film would increase due to strong word of mouth and increase in interest, a la other sleeper hits, and with the imposing Disney/Fox deal likely to affect the studio's output, along with the mixed reception of the first film, I think some of these factors could (key word being "could") put the plans for Kingsman 3 to a halt.
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OMFG WHO CARES
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4 minutes ago, filmlover said:
lol I'm just messing around with ya. And yes, I know you like girls too. Bring back dat Daisy Ridley avatar.
Sadly, I can't find a good quality image of Cottontail, and I don't want to have James Corden bunny as my avatar...which means I only have this guy left.
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5 minutes ago, filmlover said:
I'm sure @CoolEric258 would agree!
A. Ew.
2. I wouldn't want to see that shiz when I'm out in public, c'mon now.
D. You know that I also like girls, right?
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How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World | Feb 22, 2019 | 12th Most Profitable Movie of 2019
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