Eric Prime
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OMG PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN
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Finally watched it. The lack of "Sweet Dreams" is disappointing, but it still looks enjoyable.
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Odenkirk and Keener will be the bad guys. Just throwing out that prediction.
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Also, this is now premiering at Berlin Film Festival
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15 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
July 20
Alita: Battle Angel: “I want.... your eye, man. I want those things you see through.” Alita faced a lot of WTF reactions from the internet with those uncanny valley eyes, but aside from that, there’s a lot to get excited about here. This is the first thing James Cameron is involved in since Avatar 9 years ago, and Robert Rodriguez is bound to provide some unique visuals. The first trailer has 7M views on YouTube after over a month, which is great for an anime/manga property that is not well-known to American audiences. Being attached to many TLJ showings raised awareness, and Fox has over two months between Deadpool and this to create a stellar marketing campaign. While Robert Rodriguez raises some quality concern, I fully expect James Cameron’s intended vision to shine. The range here is big, so I’ll stay somewhat conservative for now. 40/140 (3.5x)
Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again: A sequel nobody asked for! Cher! BOT memes! What more could you want? Here We Go Again is undoubtedly shaping up to be the event of the summer for women, and it isn’t too hard to see why. The first film was a WOM hit both here and overseas, and the trailer is generating lots of buzz online to its target audience. My only concern is legs as this will be facing a fair amount of competition in August, but the first two weekends should go strongly. 35/105 (3x)
MOTHERFUCKER YOU SAID IN FOR MY MAMMA MIA OVER OCEAN'S 8 CLUB
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Just now, Eevin said:
can i dislike a post
Just use the "wtf" or "disbelief" reactions.
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Y’all see that Eagles throw?
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2 minutes ago, New Year New Panda said:
Lol, I hope the Vikings win. I don’t want to root for the Jags but I couldn’t possibly root for the Eagles
T_T
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I just learned Kesha did a cover for "This Is Me." It's v. v. good.
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22 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
The Tale is also getting some really strong reviews, particularly for Laura Dern
It's definitely not going to be a hit with the GA unless there are some Oscar nominations though; there were quite a few walkouts because of how graphic the film is.
I feel like Neon could make this movie happen, at least for Dern, judging by how well they've handled I, Tonya.
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Good to know Sundance is doing well.
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8 hours ago, aabattery said:
We're up for some great acronyms in the coming months.
DWHWGFOF
MM!HWGA
FB:TCOG
RBTI:WIR2
THWACIIW
And of course, JW:FK
Universal wasted a great opportunity by not having "Super" behind Jurassic World. 🤔
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Molly's Game
January 20, 6:50, 50% full in the smallest auditorium
Trailers (No reactions)
Sicario 2
Annihilation
Fifty Shades Freed
The 15:17 to Paris
Gringo
My top row laughed a lot, but there wasn't any uproarious laughter from people. The old guy next to my Mom was crinkling some sort of cellophane thing that Mom kept complaining about, but I didn't really care. I watched the movie immediately after my work shift, so I was pretty exhausted and dozed off at some of the slow moments near the beginning, but once Act 2 started, I began to become more awake and didn't fall asleep at all. Solid, enjoyable flick.
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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:
Just got an ad for Tide Pods with new child-proof packaging. Uh, you guys need to make a dipshit-proof packaging.
I'm not at that level with Sicario yet (the score is soo good), but Annihilation's trailer is reaaaaally poorly edited.
I do like the Sicario trailer, but I've gotten at three different movies in the span of about four weeks, which is pretty exhausting when there are so many other trailers to play. Annihilation though looks pretty rough. And for that one, I've gotten it four times already (All the Money, Star Wars Watch #2, Post, Molly's). Out of Paramount's trailers, I'd honestly rather take "What the Fertilizer" over seeing Annihilation's again.
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I'm really getting sick of seeing the Sicario 2 and Annihilation trailers in the theater.
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We'll be getting into the top 3, and I promise I'll try and get this done by the time January ends.
At this point, you all can probably predict what the top 3 wins will be (though, maybe not the specific order), but my top 3 fails may surprise you.
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WIN #4
Marvel Cinematic Universe
"I'M MARY POPPINS Y'ALL!"
Like or dislike this series, I think it’s fair to say that the Marvel Cinematic Universe is the defining franchise of the 2010s. This is thanks to its stellar box office and solid reception from just about every feature they’ve made, and 2017 was further proof of that.
While Marvel has usually done two movies a year, they followed the Dreamworks Animation route and released three movies all in the span of one calendar year, with Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 in May, Spider-Man: Homecoming in July, and Thor: Ragnarok in November. It may seem brilliant now, but back then, you can argue it was a bit of a risk. Even if they are different franchises, would audiences grow tired of Marvel? Would so many movies in a short timespan hurt the brand? Would there be enough interest in these movies in the first place? Guardians 1 was a smash hit that came out of nowhere, but it could have just as easily been a one-and-done thing for many audience members. This was the third Spider-Man reboot in the span of 10 years, and even with the popularity of Holland’s portrayal in Civil War, the saturation of the character might have been too much for some people. Thor has always been one of Marvel’s least popular characters, so it seemed doubtful people would turn up for another entry.
But lo and behold, not only did each film hit, they really hit. Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 more than doubled from the original when it came to opening weekend ($94.3M to $146.5M) and had pretty solid legs throughout its run, leading to the film generating a $389.8M DOM and $863.7M WW total, a strong leap from its predecessor. This was not only thanks to the popularity of the first film, which only became even more popular thanks to TV reruns and DVDs, as well as solid reviews, albeit not as strong as the first one, but also due to a killer marketing campaign that promised a lot of the elements people liked in the first movie, while also adding in new stuff like Kurt Russell as Star-Lord’s dad, and of course Baby Groot, a character that was loved by even the most cynical viewer. This will only further help Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which is expected to come out sometime in 2020.
July saw Spider-Man: Homecoming, which differentiated rather heavily from the previous adaptations. For one, Peter Parker wasn’t played by a late ‘20s-early ‘30s actor. Second, the film focused a lot more on a high school setting, which was basically ignored in the previous movies. Then you add in a supporting role for Iron Man, a multicultural and diverse supporting cast, and strong reviews touting the film as a return to form for the character, it had plenty to show it wasn’t just another rehash. It wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows at first, as while the film did have a strong debut at $117 million, it had a pretty ugly second weekend drop at over 62%. But as time had gone on, word spread, and it seemed more people were willing to check it out and seemed to have enjoyed it. For the rest of the summer, the film only dropped to 50%, followed by 40%, then 33%, then 32%, then 29%, and then 33%. This helped the film cross $334.2 million at the domestic box office, and while it couldn’t beat the Sam Raimi films, the $880.2 million worldwide total helped it become the second-highest grossing Spider-Man film of all time, only behind 2007’s Spider-Man 3. Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 is already in development and being fast-tracked for 2019, but what is more interesting is how the film will help the other Spider-Man features Sony has in the works, including Venom, Into the Spider-Verse, and Silver & Black.
Lastly, there was Thor: Ragnarok. This feature took everything from the first two movies, and threw it all away, offering a fresh new perspective of the characters. Jane Foster and company, as well as the Warriors Three, were thrown out of the movie entirely, instead focusing on the characters people actually like (Thor, Loki, Odin, Heimdall) and adding in a bunch of new characters, like Hela, Valkyrie, the Grandmaster, and of course Korg. Then you add on a Hulk crossover, some 80s tunes, fun setpieces, killer marketing, with the film’s teaser becoming the highest-viewed trailer in 24 hours, and stellar reviews, it had all the elements for a massive breakout. With a $122.7 million opening, it managed to beat out Homecoming’s opening, an impressive feat for a less well-known character. Its legs were hurt due to the arrival of Justice League, but in the end, the film was still a smash success, with a current gross of over $313.1 million, and will likely pass the $315M mark. Worldwide was also amazing, delivering $851.2 million, making it the highest-grossing Thor movie so far. A fourth film is up in the air, but I think Marvel’s willing to extend Hemsworth’s contract a little bit longer, especially with the new world Daddy Taika created.
Let’s really look at what all three films managed to do. They all grossed above $100M in their opening weekends, while their runs ended above $300M domestic and $800M worldwide. Doing that within the span of 6 months is practically ludicrous.
While the Marvel brand definitely played a part, becoming in a way the Pixar of the superhero genre, I think the main reason each of these features was a hit was that each film was not only very good but very different from one another. True, they all played to the typical superhero comedy conventions, and the dreaded “Marvel formula,” but in execution, each one was able to stand out from the film before it which didn’t make audiences say “been there, done that.” Guardians 2 was a space opera featuring wild planets and creatures, as well as a touching story on fatherhood and emotional baggage. Spider-Man: Homecoming was one part high school comedy, the other part coming-of-age story, with Peter Parker trying to make his mark and defining who he is in a world full of superpowered heroes. Thor: Ragnarok was a road trip comedy that offered hilarious supporting characters and gorgeous otherworldly visuals.
Marvel let James Gunn, Jon Watts, and Taika Waititi (paging @aabattery) do what they want to do with these characters, and deliver fun adventures that excited moviegoers with their new interpretations on old favorites. 2018 looks to deliver on 2017’s momentum, and it seems likely with Black Panther breaking pre-sales records, and Avengers: Infinity War breaking trailer view records. Hopefully, Ant-Man finds a way to cross $300M, so Marvel Studios can get that twice in a row action. Michelle, the fate of the MCU is counting on you (paging @WrathOfHan and @ddddeeee)
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FAIL #4
JUSTICE LEAGUE
"Do you bleed?"
Release Date: November 17
Director: Zack Snyder
Cast: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Gal Gadot, Ezra Miller, Jason Momoa, Ray Fisher, Jeremy Irons, Diane Lane, Connie Nielsen, J. K. Simmons
B.O. Gross: $227.6M DOM, $655.2M WW, and counting.
Yep, I’m going there. I know I said Star Wars wasn’t going to be on this list, because I knew there would be flame wars and battles no matter where I put it, but for this film, most of the DC fanboys either weren’t enthusiastic about the movie, or are currently suspended, so I don’t have to worry about those clowns, and can trash its performance all I want, so yay me. But in all seriousness, let’s start from the very beginning.
DC, like every other studio at the time, wanted to create their own cinematic universe like Marvel’s. But unlike Marvel, it has been anything but smooth sailing for the franchise. After Christopher Nolan ended the Dark Knight Trilogy, Warner Bros. decided to start out their new universe with Man of Steel. As a reboot of Superman, the film was given a polarized with critics and audiences. Some enjoyed the darker interpretation, others condemned it for not being accurate to Superman’s character. Regardless, it was still a box office success, and a sequel was already in the works. That film was a feature called Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. WB put out all the stops for it, by having it be the film that introduces Batman, making it the first time both characters would appear in the same movie. It also saw the big-screen debut of Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg. Everything but the kitchen sink was thrown into this movie, and while it may have seen a touch bloated, there was also the chance the film could have improved upon Man of Steel and deliver fans an epic superhero flick.
The film garnered even worse reviews than Man of Steel, and it was still polarizing to audiences. Fans weren’t happy with a lot of the interpretations, while newcomers were confused by the onslaught of characters and the needlessly complicated story. It opened to $166 million domestically and dropped like a rock to $330.4 million. Seems like a lot of money, and it is, but it’s a multiplier that couldn’t even double from its opening, which is hardly a good sign. While there are still passionate defenders of the flick, Batman v Superman definitely left a bad taste in many people’s mouths.
Then after Suicide Squad which achieved...let’s say mixed results, followed by Wonder Woman, which we’ll talk about in a little bit, the follow-up to Batman v Superman emerged in the form of Justice League. Promised to be the epic team-up that would bring all of the core members together into an epic battle, it was going to be the epic event of a lifetime, similar to Avengers over 5 years ago (Man, it’s really been that long?)
Although Justice League received mediocre review, it still seemed like a slam dunk for box office success. Even if BvS disappointed many moviegoers, this still seemed like something everyone had to go see. And yet...many people didn’t. While the film was tracking towards a $110-120 million opening weekend, things quickly turned south, as the film opened to $93.8 million, drastically down from BvS’s boffo debut, and became the first DCEU film to open below $100 million. It was downright shocking. Three months before, people were thinking it would hit close to $130 million, possibly even more. But then, the film that was supposed to be the gigantic mega event of the season sunk to a disastrous low. It later dropped 56% on Thanksgiving weekend, ending up in second behind Pixar’s Coco, followed by a total of around $227.2 million.
To the average normie who doesn’t follow box office, this may not seem like a bad number. But the issue comes to the expectations of all of the other DCEU films. Every other film in the universe made more than $290 million at the domestic box office, which is an impressive feat on its own right, especially with how poorly received the other films sans Wonder Woman were. And seeing as how this film was essentially DC’s answer to The Avengers, you would think that the film would be the biggest film in the franchise, or at least as big as BvS. And yet, the film became the lowest-grossing DCEU film both domestically and worldwide ($654.4 million). That total's even worse, considering the film had been estimated to have a $300 million budget.
Four factors played a huge part in this film’s underperformance at the box office. For one, there wasn’t any novelty. The DC Trinity already teamed up with Batman v Superman, and the other characters got their cameos, while The Avengers was the first time the Marvel heroes got together. The fun factor and excitement in seeing these characters together was already done, so why should people care about the same thing again?
The second thing that didn’t help was that Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg only barely got an introduction in BvS. Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Cap all had solo adventures to explain their origins, backstory, and why and how these characters play a part in their universes, which gave a good introduction to these characters and their personalities. Even Black Widow played a major role in Iron Man 2. This is essentially the first time people saw these interpretations of these characters, and since people outside of the DC diehards barely know who these characters are, why should they be excited for them?
Thirdly, the previous DCEU films definitely played a part. Like or dislike, it’s clear that WW aside, the receptions for these films were mixed at best and toxic at worst, and simply put, audiences aren’t going to go back to something they weren’t crazy about. A classic case of "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
Lastly, the film...just didn’t garner a response. Say what you will about the other DCEU films, but people were passionate about it. When they saw it, they either absolutely loved it, or absolutely despised it, with a handful of inbetweens. With Justice League, the average response was either it was kinda funny, or kinda dumb. It was a collective shrug that didn’t entice newcomers and elicited nothing but “a’ights” from the fans. This almost always leads to mediocre box office, which was clearly the case with this film.
The next few films in the DCEU will be very interesting to follow. Wonder Woman 2 will obviously be a smash, but will Aquaman sink or swim after a mediocre response to his debut movie? Can Shazam stand out when the character hasn’t been introduced at all in any of the other movies? I don’t fully know the answer, and Justice League hasn’t helped solidify things in the slightest, so I guess it's best to just wait and see.
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2 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:
Jumanji forecast with a 21.1M weekend (slightly less wtf but still wtf):
Remainder of this week: 7.4M (325.4M Total)
Jan 26: 21.5M (7.4M weekdays, 354.3M Total)
Feb 2: 17.8M (6.6M weekdays, 378.9M Total)
Feb 9: 16.8M (5.5M weekdays, 401.2M Total)
Feb 16: 13.3M (6.6M weekdays, 421.1M Total)
Feb 23: 9.6M (3.2M weekdays, 433.9M Total)
Mar 2: 8.2M (2.4M weekdays, 444.5M Total)
Mar 9: 6M (2.1M weekdays, 452.6M Total)
Mar 16: 5M (1.6M weekdays, 459.2M Total)
Mar 23: 3M (1.3M weekdays, 463.5M Total)
Mar 30: 2M (800k weekdays, 466.3M Total)
Final Total: 471M (8.92x from 5 day/16.24x from 3 day)
FUCK I SHOULD HAVE PUT JUMANJI HIGHER ON MY WINS LIST
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2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wizard
James became 30 on February 2nd, 2012 and was still a virgin. He was now a wizard, and so he decided to post the definition on urban dictionary.Han, I'm on the Internet at around 90% of the day, and even I haven't heard of this term before. You really need to power down sometimes.
It's definitely not going to be a hit with the GA unless there are some Oscar nominations though; there were quite a few walkouts because of how graphic the film is.
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