James

You know, I just watched Grace's review of DM3 and she was making some interesting statements about how the DM franchise (and DM3 esp) are very european at heart. And I think she is right. It is the reason why DM is the biggest animated franchise in the world (ever actually). I see a lot of people defining Minions humor as slapstick and whatnot, but here for example, the audience at my showing for that movie was half adults (and I mean 20-30 YO, without kids). It is the only animation able to do that around here that I know of. I think cultural difference plays a big part in how you perceive the quality of these movies.

Very good but not great, meh, even meh-er, lmao. Brave is actually one of the better Pixar outings. Haven't seen TGD.

One of the most overrated animations ever. Minions is 10x better.

I think you got it mixed up with Pixar. They still have to make a great movie after Ratatouille. WW yes. DOM no. I expect a 100m-ish OW with great legs.

You also said quality

Over Minions. And yes, it is happening.

Your forgot...

So am I the only one thinking: MJ2>MJ1>CF>THG? MJ1+MJ2, even though a bit bloated, is a near perfect war movie. And MJ2 is far and away the best in the series.

True. I mean, there are have been a lot of good movies in the last 7 years, but franchise wise, CBMs dominated. It makes me appreciate THG even more for what it managed to do. I am just waiting for the next big thing and I hope it will come soon. At least I have Fantastic Beasts for the next 8 years or so (and probably a Cursed Child series after that). POTC will likely go on for another movie, TF will get rebooted and LOTR... oh man, I am so divided over that one. I wish to see more from that universe, but those movies are perfect. So I don't want a reboot, but I know WB will make one at some point unless they manage to acquire more rights from Tolken's company, which is probably not happening as long as Christoper Tolkien is alive.

Catching up, you guys talking about HP, POTC and TF on the same page All 4 of my favorite franchises came out during the same decade: LOTR, HP, POTC AND TF. HP made me fall in love with reading (I hated even the idea of reading with a passion before that), LOTR made me fall in love with movies, POTC just continued that trend and TF made me love Sci-Fi. And they all had that adventure theme going for them, even TF. Is it weird that I feel old?

Yes, but Predator was never that big. The highest grossing one made 80m DOM. As for WB, that seems a bit overkill. They are doing a good job turning original movies into hits. I actually think their 2018 summer slate will be very successful. Life of the Party has McCarthy who is very reliable in comedy roles. Ocean's 8 has a superb cast and brand name. The Nun is Conjuring. Meg will probably have WB's full attention, esp if that DC Untitled won't make the date. Tag is the only movie not having anything going for it. We'll see how that looks once a trailer drops.

Isn't Bumblebee supposed to come out next year? I might be wrong tho.

Please tell me he likes Scooby-Doo! You better raise him on Hanna-Barbera classics and not these shit cartoons coming out these days!

I still think Spidey should have better presales than that to hit the 125m 'locked' OW some are claiming. I really can't see it being more backloaded than WW over the OW.

Looking at WB's 2018 slate, their summer is indeed empty. They have The Nun, which will probably be huge since it belongs to The Conjuring universe and Ocean's 8 seem like a nice counter-programming to me. I am quite sure that one will break out big (thinking over 400m WW). And Meg could also be big if marketed well. But all of WB's tentpole for next year are geared up towards the end of the year (Fantastic Beasts 2, Aquaman, Jungle Book and to a smaller extent Smallfoot). Plus Ready Player One and Tom Raider in the first few months of the year. And looking at the clusterfuck that is Summer 2018, I think they actually might've made the right choice. I mean: May (Avengers and Han Solo, assuming it doesn't change dates), June (Deadpool, The Incredibles, JW, TF), July (MI6, Ant-Man, HT, Alita, plus a BlueSky animation). And then there's the dead month of August, where, aside from a Disney fairytale, whatever that is, there is no tentpole. That is why Meg could break out. Also, WTF is up with November. It is almost as bad as June. Dark Phoenix, Mulan (or Nutcracker), The Grinch, Fantastic Beasts, Ralph 2. Dark Phoenix will move for sure if Fox wants to make any money at all. The Nutcracker will get destroyed by The Grinch and them both plus Beasts will destroy Ralph. And then you have Animated Spidey, Aquaman, Mortal Engines and Marry Poppins in December. And people say HS will move there? There is no place. Even with December's capacity to sustain multiple movies, you have 2 months full of family competition. SW may be a big deal and would come out on top, but I have to believe that Disney also cares about OS revenues, which would be affected for sure. I think one of the studios will move a big tentpole in August. SS proved it works and it is so empty.

I am actually rereading SS right now. And I mean right now. I have the book in my hand. I got the best gifts for my birthday this year: a boxed set with the first three books, the Elder Wand, funkos of Harry and Voldy, a home-made golden snitch with my name on it, tickets to the SS concert movie, plus custom made letters from Hogwarts lmao (and a Bear Grylls book because I am obsessed with anything survival) But yeah, SS is sooo goooood!

I meant DOM since I was talking about 500m DOM.

So WW 2 will make less money than GOTG2 despite the fact that WW made/will make way more money than GOTG1 and is better received? Why?

I am seriously wondering if WW2 has any chance at 500m (if it is good ofc and assuming this one ends with 400M).

I don't know if it will fall under 400m or not, but it won't beat Ultron. I think there is a CBM fatigue in the sense that the ceiling has been reached. They still draw massive numbers, but unless there's an ultra new gimmick to them, they won't go over 500m. Also, I soooo doubt The Incredibles is making over 400m. It might be the most overpredicted movie I've seen around here in a while. Deadpool will likely end up around the same as the first one, maybe a bit higher. JW should easily win the year, DOM/OS and WW (with around 1.3B or so). Also, question for anyone who knows: will MEG be a big budget movie like JW? Or a cheap horror flick. I want to make a prediction for that.

Spidey, Dunkirk, maybe Apes too, if the movie is good enough, will end up in that range.

WW will come in closer to 30m. Also, after reading this thread, I don't understand how some people throw 350-400m predictions for Spidey so easily. It will be lucky to hit 300 imo.

Looking at it's WW opening so far, I would say the mania is still going very strong. Side note: just finished re-watching the BvS Ultimate Cut. 3 hours of bad ass epicness... except for that Martha moment lol. I cringed so hard. But the rest, omg so gooooood! Snyder is a god.

This just randomly played on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6as8ahAr1Uc I remember how insanely hyped I was for this movie, only because of that scene. It was insane. JL kinda lacks that. Too light

Well, when Disney will make TLK it will probably do that... in it's entire run.