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Should hopefully give it a nice bump @IdahoJacket @Dreadnought @ringedmortality @MovieMan89 @ThomasNicole

Wonka got GG nominations too but was also snubbed from the same category as TCP but the reviews for Wonka so far have been fairly good. Fair argument or no?

It’s typically the same for American comedies too. For a long time only American action films made money OS the only exception was a few romantic comedies and dramas if it had big named stars attached to it. But even then the domestic gross was generally a lot higher than OS.

Oprah said it was $90 to $100 million https://people.com/oprah-winfrey-was-asked-to-cast-beyonce-or-rihanna-in-the-color-purple-8415167

And that’s just from the last few pages, there are many more!

I wonder if anyone is going to call you out for trolling… more than likely not.

The argument more so has to do with hypocrisy with films starring black actors and/or have black directors. Even in the tracking thread despite the fact that The Color Purple is doing great in pre sales people are literally in that thread saying that the critic reviews are going to be bad (even though all out of theater reactions and social reactions have been excellent) is going to hurt the box office sales. People on THIS forum have been publicly hoping that the film doesn’t do as well as suggested and literally hoping for it’s failure. They did the exact same thing with TLM. Yet with Wonka there’s a lot of “it didn’t do the expected numbers but it has time” With that being said The Marvels probably wasn’t the best example for him to use lol

So Wonka’s opening was less than The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes in the US, despite having a bigger budget and a bigger star in the lead with both films being prequels to popular novels/films.

W Exactly Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and the original Willy Wonka were all musicals

How?

I think the silliest thing is people here on BO Theory thinking that Wonka will have legs because “there won’t be competition”… post pandemic if people don’t have a movie they’re excited to see they stay home. Going to the movies every week hasn’t been the norm post pandemic. Barbie, The Little Mermaid, ATSV, Oppenheimer and Mario were cinematic events. People were excited to see this films, they weren’t “oh nothing else is playing so let me go see this movie”. It seems like people on this forum are expecting this to do better despite the underperformance domestically for the opening week. Films post pandemic don’t perform like Jumanji or The Greatest Showman anymore. If people don’t have anything that they want to see at the movies they stay home.

How so? The Color Purple Aquaman Migration Mean Girls All are coming soon and pre sales for Mean Girls is great so far.

It's been getting raves across the board from people who have seen it. Even though people on here dislike her, Grace Randolph named it the 2nd best movie of 2023 after Barbie.

Yeah it's odd that Wonka isn't doing well in many areas here Florida. We also have sold out screenings here for TCP on Chrsitmas Day

Very different here. I live near the most popular mall in all of South Florida in a huge family friendly area and most shows for Wonka are empty Its just not connecting with people here as opposed to ATSV, Barbie or Eras https://www.amctheatres.com/movies/wonka-65858/showtimes/wonka-65858/2023-12-16/amc-aventura-24/all

FYI for those complaining WB is clearly marketing The Color Purple as a musical and it’s likely going to either win December or be a close 2nd domestically. Musicals sell it’s just a matter of marketing to the audience they are trying to reach.

Facts on top of facts!

Out of theater reactions Grace put it at #2

Same here which is shocking. I live in a big family oriented area without a real black population but most shows are sold out here already!

Wonka can’t really be compared to The Greatest Showman. The reason The Greatest Showman had those legs is because the soundtrack was huge despite a low opening week at the B.O. The soundtrack ended up being the top selling album worldwide for 2018 WB isn’t even promoting Wonka as a musical. This weekend will likely be a clear indication for how the film will do domestically.

Big promo push happening today. Should help ticket sales

For those tracking TCP is it likely that theaters will add more showings based on ticket sales or will the current list of theaters likely remain the same?

Socials came out a while ago and so far so good

Your really think this is going to gross more than Guardians domestic and WW?

The Color Purple is a Pulitzer Prize winning book by Alice Walker Steven Spielberg directed a film in 1985 for the book which was Whoopi Goldberg’s first film role and was Oprah’s first film role before she had a successful talk show. The film got 11 Oscars nominations and was the 4th highest grossing movie of 1985. Oprah created a broadway musical version of the book which grossed a lot at the box office and won Cynthia Eviro from the new Wicked movie her first Tony Award for best actress. This new film is the film adaptation of the broadway musical and the movie is produced by Steven Spielberg who directed the first film and by Oprah who starred in the first film. It has an all star cast. The film has a huge following in the African American community in the United States.