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With things getting more and more unclear, after last weeks Känguru there's another german "hope" opening, Narziss und Goldmund. What I read, the movie cost around €10M. The InsideKino prediction is 80k WE and 250k total - it'll be a huge flop...
If really all cinemas close (which in three cities already happened it seems) and stay closed for quite some time, I fear this year could be the first time ever to stay below 100M admissions...
There have been 6 deaths yet and we're probably close to 3000 infected. I fear the german reaction to all this isn't very strict. Hopefully the low death count indicates that it isn't that bad...
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Weekend Estimates:
#1 Känguru 320k (4-day), 375k (i.P.) - 3rd biggest OW of the year
#2 Onward 157,5k (4-day), 185k (i.P.) - 9th biggest OW of the year
#3 Sonic 110k (-43%) 1,115M
#4 Nightlife 110k (-35%) 1,025M - 4th 1M+ movie of the year
#5 Invisible Man 100k (-16%) 245k
#6 Gentlemen 65k (-26%/-40%) 205k
#7 Bloodshot 57,5k (i.P.)
#8 Parasite 47,5k (-39%) 937,5k - great drop considering the DVD release was last Thursday
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5 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:
700 cases in Germany and will reach 1000 tomm. How come there is no impact at all?
There were some surveys saying that people in Germany don't really fear the virus that much, which is a bit surprising to me too... The only thing that changed seem to be some panic buyings.
Maybe it is because many people trust the government. Especially the health ministers image greatly improved since the beginning of the spreading virus.
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1st Trend:
#1 Känguru 305k (4-day), 360k (i.P.)
#2 Onward 150k (i.P.)
#3 Invisible Men 95k (-20%)
#4 Nightlife 95k (-43%)
#5 Sonic 90k (-53%)
#6 Gentlemen 80k (-9%/-27%)
Onward is awful and for Känguru Chroniken I had higher hopes too...
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Thursday numbers:
#1 Känguru 35k // €300k / $335k
#2 Invisible Man 10k (-17%) €90k / $100k
#3 Onward 9,5k // €82,5k / $92,5k
#4 Nightlife 9,5k (-50%) €81,5k / $91k
#5 Gentlemen 9k (-14%) €78k / $87,5k
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1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:
I mean over 50 new cases in 24 hours seems pretty bad to me, espescially considering exponential growth and all.
While the situation is tense, our government seems to be very cautios with shutting down things. Of course things can change but atm I don't see cinemas being closed... I think the bigger problem might be people panicking and deciding not to go to cinemas, which at least as of now doesn't seem to be big of a problem.
Side note: Half of the german cases are from one city.
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Monday estimates:
#1 Sonic 190k (-25%) 980k
#2 Nightlife 165k (-19%) 880k
#3 Invisible Man 120k
#4 Gentlemen 110kk
#5 Lassie 85k (-6%/-19%) 235k
#6 Parasite 75k (-32%) 850k
#7 Call of the Wild 50k (-40%) 165k
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1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:
150 cases in Germany now. Are they gonna close cinemas there?
It'll probably affect moviegoing when it's getting worse, I don't think they'll close cinemas anytime soon though.
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Thursday numbers:
#1 Sonic 21,5k (-4%) €150k / $165k
#2 Nightlife 19k (-14%) €160k / $175k
#3 The Invisible Man 12k / €110k /$120k
#4 The Gentlemen 11k / €95k / $105k
#5 Parasite 10k (-29%) €85k / $95k
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Actuals are in for 2019 and, well, it's not good. It's even below the 120M I hoped for...
Yearly admissions 118,6M (+12,6%)
Yearly gross €1,024B ($1,105B, applying XR as of now) (+13,9%)
TP €8,63 ($9,32) (+1,1%)
http://www.insidekino.com/News.htm#Montag_17._Februar_2020
InsideKino has a nice stat with (by year):
Besucher (admissions)
Umsatz (Box Office in €)
Ticket (TP)
Orte (number of cities with a cinema)
Säle (screens)
% (share of german movies)
% 3D (3D share)
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2nd Trend:
#1 Sonic 450k
#2 Nightlife 325k 4-day (375k i.P.)
#3 Dolittle 150k (-6%)
#4 BoP 130k (-6%/-16%)
#5 BB3 130k (-6%)
#6 Enkel 80k (-20%/-26%)
#7 1917 80k (-6%)
#8 Parasite 75k (+++)
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Little Women 55k (-26%)
Bombshell 37,5k
Frozen2 30k (-17%)
Jumanji 30k (-0%)
Knives Out 25k (-31%)
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18 minutes ago, PKMLover said:
Will Frozen 2 eventually pass $60M in Germany?
Would happen with ~6,67M admissions so it really should.
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Thursday numbers:
#1 Sonic 45k (-) €320k/$345k
#2 Nightlife 30k (-) €235k/$255k
#3 Parasite 15k (+++) €125k/$135k - That's the biggest Thursday yet (18th WE) and will be the best WE above the first (52,5k). On BlickpunktFilm they said it already is the biggest Korean movie ever and if it passes Hero (560k) it'll be the biggest Asian movie since 2001 (Tiger&Dragon 865k)!
InsideKino expects 75k/550k atm
#4 Dolittle 12k (-23%) €100k/$110k
#5 BoP 11,5k (-42%) €105k/$115k
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A very underwhelming WE, though thanks to relatively warm weather and the storm Sabine it was deflated. Hopefully we'll see some great holds next WE!
#1 Dolittle 160k
#2 BOP 140k (155k i.P.)
#3 BB3 135k
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Thursday numbers
#1 BOP 20k (-) €175k / $192,5k - awful... I hope it at least gets to 200k including previews...
Some other DC OD:
BvS 140k
Joker 140k
SSquad 115k
AQM 60k
WW 60k
JL 35k
#2 Dolittle 15,5k (+24%) €135k / $150k - this is great! So it should easily be #1 for the WE again...
#3 BB3 15k (-35%) €140k / $155k
#4 Enkel für Anfänger 12,5k (-) €100k / $110k
#5 Little Women 12k (+20%) €105k / $115k
#6 1917 12k (-20%) €100k / $110k
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17 minutes ago, Aristis said:
3rd Trend:
#1 BB3 235k (-24%)
#2 Dolittle 215k (4-day), 245k (i.P.)
#3 Hochzeit 145k (-13%/-31% i.P.)
#4 1917 117,5k (-17%)
#5 Little Women 90k
#6 Lindenberg 75k (-30%)
#7 Heinzels 70k
#8 Countdown 67,5k
#9 Knives Out 65k (-32%)
#10 Frozen2 52,5k (-34%)
14 minutes ago, PKMLover said:Hmm... SW9 and Jumajil are out of top 10?
#11 Jumanji2 47,5k (-37%)
#14 SW9 42,5k (-48%)
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3rd Trend:
#1 BB3 235k (-24%)
#2 Dolittle 215k (4-day), 245k (i.P.)
#3 Hochzeit 145k (-13%/-31% i.P.)
#4 1917 117,5k (-17%)
#5 Little Women 90k
#6 Lindenberg 75k (-30%)
#7 Heinzels 70k
#8 Countdown 67,5k
#9 Knives Out 65k (-32%)
#10 Frozen2 52,5k (-34%)
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On 1/31/2020 at 1:08 PM, PKMLover said:
Is 6.7M still on the table for Frozen 2?
Should be at 6,55M after a 50k (-37%) WE, so I'd say yes.
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Thursday number:
#1 BB3 23k (-34%) €210k / $230k
#2 1917 15k (-21%) €125k / $138k
#3 Hochzeit 13k (-19%) €110k / $120k - I would have hoped for a worse hold...
#4 Dolittle 12,5k (-) $125k / $138k
#5 Little Women 10k (-) €90k / $100k
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5 hours ago, Joel M said:
1999-2000 (Athens-Thessaloniki admissions)
175k for SW1? Where does the rest hide? Lol.
Seriously, is that the total number? Also 18th is really low...
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Monday numbers:
#1 BB3 305k (-31%/-37%) 885k
#2 Hochzeit 165k (4-day), 205k (i.P.)
#3 1917 140k (-18%/-27%) 400k
#4 Lindenberg 105k (-26%/-37%) 325k
#5 Knives Out 95k (-31%) 810k
#6 SW9 80k (-43%) 5,085M
#7 Frozen2 80k (-27%) 6,495M
#8 Jumanji2 75k (-32%) 2,310M
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Jojo Rabbit 70k
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As I'm a bit later I already put in the WE projection in Italics:
SW:
SpoilerWE
SW7
SW8
SW9
1st
2.139
2.139
1.627
1.627
1.388
1.710
2nd
1.161
-46%
4.431
721
-56%
2.838
1.092
-21%
3.384
3rd
848
-27%
6.566
849
18%
4.393
610
-44%
4.372
4th
583
-31%
7.630
467
-45%
5.211
253
-58%
4.763
5th
324
-44%
8.094
202
-57%
5.503
140
-45%
4.967
6th
204
-37%
8.380
110
-46%
5.663
80
-43%
5.080
7th
145
-29%
8.582
70
-36%
5.761
8th
91
-37%
8.719
42
-40%
5.822
9th
66
-27%
8.819
24
-43%
5.857
10th
39
-41%
8.874
11
-54%
5.877
9,060M
5,906M
5,250M
Frozen:
SpoilerWE
Minions
Frozen2
1st
935
935
1.430
1.635
2nd
1.040
11%
2.394
941
-34%
2.822
3rd
760
-27%
3.598
708
-25%
3.704
4th
537
-29%
4.419
468
-34%
4.307
5th
366
-32%
5.147
393
-16%
4.808
6th
195
-47%
5.521
485
23%
5.505
7th
242
24%
5.893
356
-27%
6.042
8th
111
-54%
6.160
150
-58%
6.267
9th
81
-27%
6.323
109
-27%
6.400
10th
125
54%
6.497
80
-27%
6.495
6.946M
6,700M
They will still be very close after this WE...
Frozen1
Frozen2
WE
Weekend
Mid-week
Week
Weekend
Mid-week
Week
1st
572
654
124
696
1.430
1.635
246
1.676
2nd
577
1%
1.355
121
698
0%
941
-34%
2.822
174
1.115
-33%
3rd
476
-18%
1.952
114
590
-15%
708
-25%
3.704
135
843
-24%
4th
433
-9%
2.499
203
636
8%
468
-34%
4.307
108
576
-32%
5th
540
25%
3.242
194
734
15%
393
-16%
4.808
212
605
5%
6th
402
-26%
3.838
95
497
-32%
485
23%
5.505
181
666
10%
7th
158
-61%
4.091
19
177
-64%
356
-27%
6.042
75
431
-35%
8th
107
-32%
4.217
13
120
-32%
150
-58%
6.267
24
174
-60%
9th
81
-24%
4.311
12
93
-23%
109
-27%
6.400
15
124
-29%
10th
89
10%
4.412
80
-27%
6.495
0
4.767M
0
0
6,700M
0
Who would have thought F2 could be this close to the leggy first so late in the run...
Jumanji:
SpoilerWE
Jumanji 1
Jumanji 2
1st
198
198
383
401
2nd
314
59%
681
303
-21%
791
3rd
299
-5%
1.273
404
33%
1.355
4th
168
-44%
1.484
338
-16%
1.851
5th
113
-33%
1.623
171
-49%
2.086
6th
88
-22%
1.729
111
-35%
2.221
7th
63
-28%
1.809
80
-28%
2.320
8th
49
-22%
1.875
2,009M
2,500M
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3rd Trend:
Most movies increase!
#1 BB3 475k
#2 1917 180k
#3 Lindenberg 150k
#4 SW9 140k (-45%)
#5 Knives Out 140k (-25%)
#6 Frozen2 110k (-27%)
#7 Jumanji2 110k (-36%)
#8 Zauberhafte Schwestern 75k (-17%/-32% i.P.)
#9 Geheimnis 60k (-29%)
#10 Rosa Kaninchen 60k (-35%)
#11 Spies in disguise 55k (-11%)
#12 Weathering with you 50k
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SW vs SW:
SpoilerWE
SW7
SW8
SW9
1st
2.139
2.139
1.627
1.627
1.388
1.710
2nd
1.161
-46%
4.431
721
-56%
2.838
1.092
-21%
3.384
3rd
848
-27%
6.566
849
18%
4.393
610
-44%
4.372
4th
583
-31%
7.630
467
-45%
5.211
253
-58%
4.763
5th
324
-44%
8.094
202
-57%
5.503
6th
204
-37%
8.380
110
-46%
5.663
7th
145
-29%
8.582
70
-36%
5.761
8th
91
-37%
8.719
42
-40%
5.822
9th
66
-27%
8.819
24
-43%
5.857
10th
39
-41%
8.874
11
-54%
5.877
9,060M
5,906M
5,200M
Frozen vs Frozen:
SpoilerFrozen1
Frozen2
WE
Weekend
Mid-week
Week
Weekend
Mid-week
Week
1st
572
654
124
696
1.430
1.635
246
1.676
2nd
577
1%
1.355
121
698
0%
941
-34%
2.822
174
1.115
-33%
3rd
476
-18%
1.952
114
590
-15%
708
-25%
3.704
135
843
-24%
4th
433
-9%
2.499
203
636
8%
468
-34%
4.307
108
576
-32%
5th
540
25%
3.242
194
734
15%
393
-16%
4.808
212
605
5%
6th
402
-26%
3.838
95
497
-32%
485
23%
5.505
181
666
10%
7th
158
-61%
4.091
19
177
-64%
356
-27%
6.042
75
431
-35%
8th
107
-32%
4.217
13
120
-32%
150
-58%
6.267
9th
81
-24%
4.311
12
93
-23%
10th
89
10%
4.412
0
4.767M
0
0
6,700M
0
WE
Minions
Frozen2
1st
935
935
1.430
1.635
2nd
1.040
11%
2.394
941
-34%
2.822
3rd
760
-27%
3.598
708
-25%
3.704
4th
537
-29%
4.419
468
-34%
4.307
5th
366
-32%
5.147
393
-16%
4.808
6th
195
-47%
5.521
485
23%
5.505
7th
242
24%
5.893
356
-27%
6.042
8th
111
-54%
6.160
150
-58%
6.267
9th
81
-27%
6.323
10th
125
54%
6.497
6.946M
6,700M
Jumanji vs Jumanji:
SpoilerWE
Jumanji 1
Jumanji 2
1st
198
198
383
401
2nd
314
59%
681
303
-21%
791
3rd
299
-5%
1.273
404
33%
1.355
4th
168
-44%
1.484
338
-16%
1.851
5th
113
-33%
1.623
171
-49%
2.086
6th
88
-22%
1.729
7th
63
-28%
1.809
8th
49
-22%
1.875
2,009M
2,500M
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Thursday numbers:
#1 Känguru 18k (-49%) €154k / $172k
#2 Invisible 6,4k (-36%) €54k / $60k
#3 Nightlife 6,4k (-33%) €54k / $60k
#4 Gentlemen 5,3k (-41%) €45k / $50k
#5 Narziss&Goldmund 5,1k (-) €43k / $48k