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9 minutes ago, Cochofles said:
More like 60-ish.
That will be one of the most horrific 3rd weekend drops for an CBM wouldn't it?
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11 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:
They should make Wacky Races too. That has the potential to be their Cars in terms of merch, but creatively superior.
I think WB is wondering whether to use Legion in live action or animation. They should go for Teen Titans or Young Justice first if they want to go the teen superhero route for the DCEU though.
Doing a Legion film will be much easier as it will not require as much ground work as Young justice.
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7 minutes ago, Cochofles said:
I LOVE THAT SHOW!!!
I miss it!
It's precisely where I get my user name from.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
Using Man Of Steel because it was the 4th Superman movie and a reboot, while Spidey is the 6th Spider-man movie and a reboot. Both dropped precipitously the OW DOM. Both were summer releases, releasing about three weeks apart in June/July. And, both are major brand superheroes that released post-Avengers when CBM, especially sequels/reboots and even the good ones, are generally pretty frontloaded.
Using the reboot excuse is actully a sugarcoat.
Man of steel w/O inflation still is considered the lost successful of the Superman recent movies.
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9 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
It can't be debated that given the OD/OW, Homecoming run since has been disappointing. It also can't be debated that it's a very clear and obvious step in the right direction for Sony given the their previous two Spider-man movies did $262M and $202M DOM. Not to mention, it can't be compared to Pirates 5 or Transformers 5, both of which dipped drastically from the last movie in the franchise DOM.
That Catwoman comparison's pretty hollow. As movies have become more frontloaded, quite a few have had pretty steep drops, especially CBM. Especially CBM that opened to $100M+ OW DOM. Catwoman had a $16.2M OW and a $40.2M DOM total. Not to mention, it was released in '04. It's a silly comp to use. Honestly, the best comp right now is probably Man of Steel. The other still remains Ant-Man.
Why use MOS as A comp?Because it had a bigger drop???No MOS was a JUNE release and SM:HC is a July release just as Catwoman.
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4 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Yet you keep throwing shade.
So is Thor 2 better than CW?
I mean, that 2nd weekend drop tells us everything, right?
Imho Yes, I do have a post here saying that The Thor Series is actully my Favorite of The MCU trilogies.
Its not shade just because you don't get it.
So far there's two factors that supports the argument that is presented to you.
#1. Fri-Sat drop
#2. Second weekend drop<Catwoman's Second weekend drop.
The only day SM:HC held better than Catwoman on was Tuesday which That wasn't big back then but in Dailies Catwoman is winning so far with lighter drops and that film didn't have 3-D.
Now before you respond just think about it I'm able to compare this films drops with one of the most horrible comic book films Known to Mankind.
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13 minutes ago, YourMother said:
Good to see thread still a dumpster fire.
Your right there's no need to keep going on about a film to that has been proven to be overhyped.
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3 hours ago, grey ghost said:
But you're judging SMH completely based on the 2nd weekend drop though.
Based on the 2nd weekend drop Thor 2 is almost as good as Guardians of the Galaxy and Logan and better than Civil War.
There's also that fri-sat drop as well.
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4 hours ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
I'm fair. I thought that BvS and SS horrible second weekend drops were word of mouth related and so did everyone else. What makes Homecoming different from those films that were judged to be disliked by the audience based on their bad second weekends? And why can't MOS use the competition excuse when it went up against 2 movies that totalled 150mil while Spidey only went up against an underperforming film that couldn't even muster a 58mil opening weekend?
If Spidey doesn't recover in it's subsequent weekends, then what will you say about that?
I feel Man of steel held better since it went up against more compitention.
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6 hours ago, grey ghost said:
I don't care how many "SMH sucks" videos are out there.
You can probably find several videos on YT saying the Star Wars prequels are better than the Disney SW movies.
Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
I see that very clearly.
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4 hours ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
I'm fair. I thought that BvS and SS horrible second weekend drops were word of mouth related and so did everyone else. What makes Homecoming different from those films that were judged to be disliked by the audience based on their bad second weekends? And why can't MOS use the competition excuse when it went up against 2 movies that totalled 150mil while Spidey only went up against an underperforming film that couldn't even muster a 58mil opening weekend?
If Spidey doesn't recover in it's subsequent weekends, then what will you say about that?
Don't forget inflation.
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6 hours ago, grey ghost said:
Spider-man fans like SMH just fine.
I already pointed out how SMH did better against franchise fatigue than almost every franchise sequel this year.
Way better.
Not really.
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2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Based on how franchise sequels performed this year and the typical trajectory of Spider-man movies, SMH should've made around 140 m DOM.
So now it's a sequel
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5 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Spider-man fans like SMH just fine.
I already pointed out how SMH did better against franchise fatigue than almost every franchise sequel this year.
Way better.
There's a good amount of Spider-Man fans who do not like this movie.
I have seen more rants/"SM:HC sucks"Videos then I have seen for any other MCU film and that's telling on its second weekend drop.
Remember the biggest dream a MCU fan had was to Have Spider-Man Back At Marvel how does it suffer the biggest MCU drop ever!!!??...
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2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Tickets sold or legs don't indicate quality.
A New Hope made way more than Empire Strikes Back.
When novelty wears off it can hurt great movies at the box office.
Maybe the fans Of Spider-Man wanted an actual story and not just fun at the movies.
Im not attacking the film at all be any means however Spider-Man films have always been Story driven and SM:HC is not that.
The film spends more time trying to make you laugh instead of getting you emotionally involved.
Before any of you call me a fanboy just Know Wonder Woman sits at the bottom of my list so far for CBM's 2017.
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6 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
I like you too, Baumer, but why should I believe a random person that Catwoman is better than TDK?
A consensus from people who love movies and professionally critique them has some value.
I know it's all subjective but if I had to choose between only watching movies with over 80% on RT and only watching movies Ethan recommends, I'm going with RT.
No offense, Ethan.
Film is subjective and To be honest Critics are no different from me and you.
Are you not able to recognize convoluted plot and unlawful Screen play?
Are you not able to recognize poor editing and eye burning CGI?
I'm pretty sure you have ears to so the Score should als be heard .
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1 minute ago, Johnny Tran said:
I used to feel this way but most critics online are from random websites and some don't have any real experience in film or knowledge of film and film techniques or even basic literary knowledge. It's changed a lot. There's a lot of critics who really are no more than the opinion of your buddy which is fine if that's what you are looking for but I used to expect a higher base of knowledge.
I don't know if you are old enough to remember but Siskel and Ebert got it right.
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9 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
The scores are one of the best indicators of how audiences and critics feel about a movie.
Which is why I don't spend pages trying to convince people that Blade is a top 10 superhero movie even though, imo, it is.
Those scores are botched for these kinds of films.Nobody never knows what the film truly deserves .
Maybe R/T should do away with the percentage indicator and put the average rating up.
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19 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
You're using unrelated facts to support an opinion (SMH is supposedly average).
Cat woman has a better July second weekend drop than SM:HC and it fell 55% in its third weekend.
If SM:HC has a similar drop then we could be looking at the same Multiplier or something close.
2.4x=281 or 2.5X=292
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3 minutes ago, baumer said:
According to some, ASM2 is better than SMH. Just saying.
/Sarcasm
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5 minutes ago, baumer said:
Actually, ASM2 fell 1% less.
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1 minute ago, grey ghost said:
So according to some people SMH is the same quality as TASM2 because of the identical 2nd weekend drop.
We need to completely ignore critical and audience reception on RT though. That tells us nothing.
/sarcasm
Maybe you should get your head out of those scores .There is such a thing as a fan film.
MOEDAY NUMBERS (Chapter Two) : APES:$5.79M | SMH:$5.46M | DM3 2.6M | BD 1.2M | WW: 875k
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