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Finally got to see Coco today. Holy shit it was amazing. New favourite Pixar film.
Could even be competing for #1 favourite animation. Will have to think about it. Maybe wait till I can rewatch them both.
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A friend is telling me that a lot of films produced in China are dubbed over in Mandarin by other actors even when the original actors speak Mandarin. I find this very, very confusing. Any insights into what's going on there?
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12 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:
I guess there's a cultural reason for that? Out of respect for the deceased?
Quite the contrary, Chinese culture has no objection to depictions of ghosts (and many such depictions can be found in Taiwan/HK cinema). The prohibition is from the Communist Party's insistence on secularism.
(edit: that's the longer version of what's already been posted above)
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9 hours ago, CoolEric258 said:
Oh, also, happy birthday @Jason
8 hours ago, YourMother said:@Jason Happy Birthday
8 hours ago, cannastop said:4 hours ago, Fancyarcher said:Happy birthday @Jason. Hope you had a good day.
Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone!
It was a great b-day, had a job interview, went out with a friend to celebrate my b-day, found out that I landed the job once I got home and checked my e-mail. Wasn't expecting to find out the same day.
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3 minutes ago, Rumpot said:
Is there anywhere that breaks out US and Canada box office separately?
Not exactly. But playbackonline.ca (I searched "Canadian box office") gives the top ten at the Canadian box office, but it posts results for the entire week not just the weekend and you have to wait about until the following Tuesday to see the results for the previous week ending Thursday.
So the results for JL's first week from Nov. 17-23 will be posted on about the 28th.
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11 minutes ago, Arlborn said:
Brazil
JL though. We are DC country baby!!!!!
It sure does look that way - any insights as to why?
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2 hours ago, tribefan695 said:
I wonder if I'm going to end up being the one guy defending the short.
This is kind of reminding me of Lava where everyone just railed it but I thought it was cute and innocuous.
I wasn't around here back then. But if I recall correctly Tele thinks Lava is pretty decent too. (As do I - still don't understand to this day why so many people hate it.)
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3 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:
Thank you guys so much for the kind words. It may have seemed weird to come here and post so soon after but I truly consider you guys friends and I love you all. If you see me making mundane comments in the Thor/politics/whatever threads the next few days, please don't think I am a sociopath who isn't grieving properly. I would much rather post here and take my mind off of it than just sit around sad, tbh. I'll probably be posting alot more generally now.
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, and I understand this completely. When I lost my dad seven years ago, my graduate supervisor told me to take all the time I needed, but beyond needing a few days to sort things out I wanted to get right back to work.
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5 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:
(so as to not derail the JL thread)....
I was one of the people on those forums who was very much a purist. Realized I was getting too worked up over it so I swore not to ever visit again. Right now I'm more worried about potentially seeing what teenage me thought fit to post than I am of breaking my promise to myself.
I didn't actually post much and don't remember my username so I *think* I'm safe?
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Congrats all!
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4 hours ago, Hades said:
Yeah, they should be grateful for the Pixar rip-off..
You are aware that Pixar was working on Coco well before the first public announcement of The Book of Life, right?
Also, I don't think what we've seen so far is enough to suggest the films are substantively similar. Unless you also think all Christmas-themed family films are rip-offs of each other, for example.
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The RT score for this disappeared:
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Haven't seen that before.
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1 hour ago, aabattery said:
@Jason, it's been a while since I've seen the stats thing
Using the current total of 41/42 fresh reviews (98%), and assuming random sampling with a final total of ~350 reviews, the 95% confidence interval for the tomatometer is 89% - 99%.
Graph of the distribution is as follows:
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17 minutes ago, aabattery said:
@Jason, it's been a while since I've seen the stats thing
It's been a while since you've summoned me.
I don't mind doing it (quite the opposite), I just haven't been paying close enough attention for the past few months to be doing it without a reminder.
I'm not sure how many final reviews we should expect for this one? Don't have a recent sequel to compare to.
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56 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:
It'd be visible enough to not be ignored is all I'm saying.
Just be honest; you guys have no interest in entertaining the idea right now because it looks girly and the fandom creeps you out. I get it. I just have a feeling the movie itself will change things.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I just don't think MLP will be very good. Don't care that it looks girly, don't know anything about the fandom (and also don't care). But the companies involved in production don't have much of a track record, and to the very minor extent that they do (one animated theatrical release), it's bad.
If MLP gets good reviews, kudos to you. I'm curious what's giving you that feeling.
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34 minutes ago, grim22 said:
They do flood the airwaves, but mainly on channels they own like ABC, ESPN, Disney XD etc. so the cost to them is more opportunity cost and does not show up on the admeter by Variety.
I don't actually know how the Variety ad spend is calculated, but presuming it doesn't count what is broadcast on channels owned by Disney, wouldn't this also be true for the many channels owned by Comcast with regards to ad spending for Illumination films?
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44 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:
It is getting a message across which speaks to minorities or can be interpreted this way most of the times.
Just like Elsa being a straight white girl and "letting it go"...
As I said, I value the importance of those messages but they have been terribly overused.
The vast, vast majority of films celebrating individualism ("I'm different, I'm strong, I'm going to follow my own path") can't be interpreted to be directed towards minorities in any way.
I have no idea what films you are watching (mostly just Disney animation?) to lead you to conclude that the aforementioned message can be interpreted to speak to minorities "most of the time".
Overall, it's a small minority of films that are making an effort to be pro-diversity, and yet you consider pro-diversity messages to be "terribly overused".
Edit: Honestly, in an ideal world a film like Moana with minority characters and about a different culture would be entirely unremarkable. The fact that we make such a big deal about it (including those of us who are supportive) is proof that there aren't enough such films.
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While broadly speaking, "political correctness" is used to describe accommodations to minorities or disadvantaged groups, it is almost always used with the implication that it's a bad thing, and/or the degree of accommodation is excessive.
Describing Moana as "PC" because it has non-white characters, or Zootopia because of its anti-prejudice message, is not a good look.
If you think either film did a poor job for reasons relating to the aforementioned, you'd be better off finding more precise language to describe those reasons, that doesn't imply you think minority characters or an anti-prejudice message is a bad thing.
Unless, of course, you really do object to accommodation towards minorities as a matter of principle, in which case IMHO it'd be better to keep quiet.
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33 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Honestly, IT is having an all-time run, but it's a run the the industry absolutely NEEDED. If it weren't for IT, theatre's around the country would be absolutely dead, and almost begging customers to come in.
Before IT released, Cineplex actually was begging customers to come in. I got so many e-mails "Tuesday pricing everyday!" "Free popcorn" etc.
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19 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:
It's not like Moana didn't have the support or the right circumstances to be big. If it did less that SLOP or DM3 it is entirely because people liked the latter more.
No, Moana doing less than SLOP or DM3 means literally one thing: that fewer people watched it in theatres. It doesn't mean people liked it less.
Moana didn't have nearly the amount of advertising/marketing the others did. We don't have all the data (just TV ad spending), but Illumination generally spends at least 50% more on TV ads than Disney does. I know this is anecdotal, but I see way more online ads and billboards/posters etc. from Illumination films. What they don't spend on animation they spend double on marketing. (h/t @TalismanRing)
There's also a bunch of other factors that affect box office. It's fundamentally unknowable which film people generally liked the most because we don't have random polling of the audience.
That being said, for people who decided to give a rating on Rotten Tomatoes, Moana was the most liked of the three films. The number of ratings on RT is large enough that I'm doubtful a dedicated contingent of Disney fans could be skewing the results.
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1 hour ago, BoxOfficeChica said:
Surprised there isn't a "No refunds after the movie starts" policy, or if people complain enough, they get free passes anyway? Sometimes the theaters here put up signs at the ticket window if a movie is "challenging", for The Artist there was a sign about it being silent and in black & white. Basically a warning ahead of time, so, hey, don't come looking for a refund later because we're not giving it to you.
For what it's worth, the policy at Canada's largest theatre chain (Cineplex, which has more than half of the screens in the country and dominates the GTA where I live) is you get a refund if you walk out in the first half hour.
That seems reasonable enough to me, although I've never taken advantage of it and don't think I ever will.
Original comment didn't say if the people asking for refunds had watched the whole thing, if they had then getting refunds seems very questionable, and ripe for abuse.
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On 3/23/2017 at 3:33 AM, spaghetti! said:
.....I now only think it's the SECOND worst blockbuster of the decade? As opposed to the first? That counts for something, right JW fans?
Usually, I'd be inclined to like a post calling JW the second worst blockbuster of the decade, but the timing of this post makes me suspicious about what you're implying is worse than JW.
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7 hours ago, Jay Hollywood said:
This is pure FALSE though. The theater didn't ban the movie. The PEOPLE DID. They Said hey, this is a film I have NO desire to watch and don't want too, but I'm a whinny little fuck and I don't think ANYBODY else should have the right to see it..... Im going to stop going here if you play this. You're going to loose a valued costumer.
Im sorry but in what world is nobody saying Gone with the Wind should be ban?!? How do you think it got BANNED!
That's not what the word "banned" is generally understood to mean. A ban is a legal or otherwise official prohibition, which didn't happen here.
I think you can reasonably disagree with a theatre choosing to stop showing a film because of complaints rather than because of a lack of ticket sales, but calling it a "ban" is disingenuous.
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I've now updated my table of yearly avg. ticket prices with 2016 data, and updated the box office adjustment table to use 2017 estimates for international markets and the 2017 BOM domestic estimate of $8.84.
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JL though. We are DC country baby!!!!!
Weekend Thread | Weekend Estimates - Coco 26.11M, JL 16.58M, Wonder 12.5M, T:R 9.65M, MOTOE 6.7M, LB 4.54M, 3BOEM 4.53M, TDA 1.22M
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I'm pretty sure he's referring to this:
Edit: I posted this before seeing the above post.
For the record, @EmpireCity isn't the only one tired of reading more-or-less the same arguments being made against what I'm pretty sure is just one person who thinks Titanic was a fad or whatever.