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49 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:
I'm really glad that Sony learned such important lesson, instead of spending almost 500 million to produce and promote a movie ( aka TASM 2).
Keep your budgets reasonable and cool, and you won't need to ask for help, like you did to Marvel. Then again, if TASM 2 had made a huge profit, Spidey wouldn't be in the MCU and we would have got a TASM 3 ( which I actually would love to see ). That TASM 2 ending destroyed me. I never thought Sony would have the balls to kill such character and even give that character a funeral.
Tentpoles will always spend the big bucks for superhero and action films but $75m for Inferno is a good budget and minimises the risk. WB/New Line summer line up were all profitable because of their sensisble budgets.
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1 minute ago, CJohn said:
I am just not sure if Sony is willing to bet on these movies again. I hope so.
Given how long it took between sequels, I'm not sure whether the next Langdon book will be adapted.
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Considering Sony hasn't done well in terms of existing franchises, Inferno is a winner and it'll be more profitable than Angels and Demons due to the lower budget
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1 minute ago, CJohn said:
I am here for the Inferno OS numbers.
It's down in Germany and Italy but up in Russia. Given the seven year gap between films, it's probably not surprising it's down in many places but the budget's low enough to ensure that a $250-300m WW gross means it'll be profitable or at least break even
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3 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Really depends how JR and Inferno perform. If both bomb this could really leg it out until Dr Strange.
But it I think Reacher and Inferno will both be somewhat solid performers, so I'm not really expecting this to get a 4 multiplier. A 3 should happen at least.
I reckon Reacher will be $15-20m which is the roughly the same as the last film with Inferno doing $25-30m.
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4 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:
I actually think the animated Scooby-Doo film could be a hit, as long as it turns out to be well-done. The S.C.O.O.B. concept certainly should interesting anyway.
It's an interesting premise, Future Quest has shown how a shared HB universe can work so if Scooby Doo does well, I suspect Jonny Quest, if it not done as a live action film, will be the second WAG-HB film.
Warner Bros should and likely will move it from its current slot as both it and HT3 will cannibalise each other if they remain on the same date. I reckon they'll move it to September 2019 to conicide with the 50th anniversary
I think if Lego Batman does well, I could see WAG doing an animated DC film although I'd used lesser known characters to allow more creative freedom, The Metal Men has been rumoured as a potential animated film but I'd opt for Dial H for Hero since it's a concept that could work well in animation plus it has a kid in the lead role;
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5 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:
Yeah, WAG is fine, unless they less keep having underperformers / flops. Storks is a blip on their radar right now.
I think if Smallfoot which will their next original film in 2018 after the Lego spin-offs in 2017 doesn't improve on what Storks did, it could put original ideas in jeopardy since WAG can rely on Lego and characters from their libraries to use as ideas for animated films like Scooby Doo, Tom and Jerry, DC, Looney Tunes etc
The budgets are also low enough that they can shoulder an underperformer as well.
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10 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:
And technically, Hop and Storks aren't even really comparable to A Bug's Life, considering ABL was the 4th highest grossing film of 1998 domestically, and 5th highest grossing worldwide, it was a pretty good hit.
It's not the best example as it was very successful and only made slightly less WW compared to Toy Story. The only animation studio that had a more successful second film was DWA with The Prince of Egypt which made more than Antz. Compared to SPA which didn't have a truly profitable film until The Smurfs, WAG is actually done well two films in
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6 minutes ago, grim22 said:
That would be awesome. Don't think Hanks has strayed too far from his comfort zone, he could be the best MI villain since PSH. Paramount should get on that, and hide the fact that Hanks is a villain in the marketing.
I imagine Hanks and Cruise's salaries would probably be too much for Paramount. If they couldn't get him as a villain, maybe cast him as the new secretary of IMF and not mention his casting until the very last minute. It's surprising considering how long they've both been in the industry that no one has sought to put them in a film together.
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3 hours ago, CJohn said:
All I want is Cruise Missile and Hanks Da Gawd to do well for now. I will turn my attention to the MCU, Harry Potter and Queen Amy Adams when October ends.
In the battle of the Toms, Hanks will likely beat Cruise both domestically and overseas. Someone needs to put them in a film together where it be a thriller or a drama or even make Hanks a villain in Mission Impossible 6.
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6 minutes ago, CJohn said:
The Lost Symbol was the worst received book of the four and that is why Sony never moved forward with it. Inferno got a better reception so they went with that instead.
Is there any big changes in the film from the book? I've heard that the film ending is slightly different from the book
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17 minutes ago, CJohn said:
This is a very hot, hilarious at points, mess. And it is great to watch unfold. I was entertained the whole time. The more I think about it, the more I believe it is actually my favorite of the three.
The books are complete hokum but clearly there is an audience since there are four books and three films. I wonder if The Lost Symbol will be adapted since it was in development before they opted to do Inferno, it's more American centric compared to the other three dealing with Freemasons, Dan Brown has another Langdon book coming next year so I suspect if this is successful, they'll adapt that instead.
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The Girl on the Train is going to be profitable for Universal since they're only distributig it, DreamWorks sold some of the OS rights to local distributors so part of the budget is already covered.
Sony won't lose out much from Mag 7 as they only funded a portion of the budget and are getting a distribution fee, MGM funded the majority of it with Village Roadshow and LStar covering the rest. After the bombage of Ben Hur and Mag 7 not doing so well, MGM are doing to end the year in the red
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19 minutes ago, James said:
Bad math. You are right. More like 220-250m.
$230m is my guess, comparable to other September animation that isn't Hotel Transylvania
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Storks will be profitable in the long run but I imagine WB and WAG probably were expecting more but it's more a disappointment than a disaster,
its comparable to other animation studios who hit big with their first film but missed on their second, Hop did a lot worse than Despicable Me for example but just about broke even WW, Robots from Blue Sky did $260m WW on a $75m budget which was good but not great compared to Ice Age, A Bug's Life from Pixar didn't do nearly as well as Toy Story but still a solid hit and Surfs Up from SPA was a failure only doing $149m on a $100m budget
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2 minutes ago, CJohn said:
It is a good sign for Live by Night too if that gets good reviews and a few big Oscar noms.
I think Warner Bros are confident that Live by Night will hit big since it's getting a limited release at Christmas and a wide January release.
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Kevin Hart: What Now? has a budget of $9.9m, seems a lot for a stand up film but it'll easily make that back.
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Sully's chugging along nicely towards $125-130m domestic, it'll hit $120m by sometime next week. I imagine it'll OS total will be around $80-90m given it's still got a number of big OS markets left to play
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4 minutes ago, Maxmoser3 said:
Wasn't The Accountant supposed to come out late January earlier this year? October is a great month to release Affleck films.
October's a good time for more adult midbudget films like GOTT and The Accountant, I imagine Sully probably would have done well in October although I think Hanks in Inferno in the same month meant it wasn't viable.
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2 hours ago, IMojammer said:
Those two new ones are "WB event" movies while DC movies are designated as DC movies so I wonder if they're for sure not DC or we just don't know yet. Being September and February I would guess means not DC movies.
There's an untitled New Line event movie scheduled for April 20, 2018. Does being New Line definitely make it a non-DC movie?
The dates for the new WB event films makes me think they're for WAG films rather than DC or other tentpoles.
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4 hours ago, PhilipJ2001 said:
Storks did £900k in previews
That's pretty decent for Storks, it faces Trolls previews next week as well as the ongoing success of Miss Peregrine.
6 hours ago, Heretic said:As for this weekend, Inferno is entering a very crowded market, but should be able to take the top spot quite easily. Angels and Demons opened to £6m. The Da Vinci Code was a big hit here, with an opening of £9.4m. I expect Inferno to open somewhere around the £5m mark, which would be a good target to hit.
GOTT should already be in the low teens by Sunday, and Bridget will leap past the £40m mark.
Storks is the first big animated film since Dory so it should do decently with families, but nothing major, maybe a £2m opening. Miss Peregrine however is doing very well right now so that'll prove to be competition for Storks.
I'm thinking £4-4.5m for Inferno but £5m wouldn't surprise me.
eOne have had a strong year with The BFG cracking £30m and The Girl on the Train likely to do around £25m or more, they've done better than both Sony and Paramount as neither have had a £20-30m hit this year.
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2 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
Yeah that's way bigger than I thought it would be. Female audiences coming out in droves in recent weeks. Coming out and seeing Bridget, to then see trailers for Train - definitely helped the movie.
I doubt GOTT will be as leggy as Bridget, the film isn't as good but I agree it's a market that was mostly neglected over the summer due to the big tentpoles apart from Ab Fab and Me Before You.
I'll be curious how it fares next week, I reckon it'll be close between it and Inferno for number 1.
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Deadline says The Girl on the Train did $8.5m which is £6.8m which is very impressive and bigger than Gone Girl's four day opening although I think Girl on the Train isn't going to be as leggy as GG was.
Wonder how Storks did with previews, I can't imagine it'll do huge business with Trolls previews next week.
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1 hour ago, babz06 said:
And it cost about 4x as much as those films too. Looks like Universal has to make most of their money overseas with it.
Universal are only distributing in the US and a handful of territories with the rest being covered by local distributors like eOne. For DreamWorks SKG, this is their first number one film in a while and for Amblin Partners, this is a good start for them
Sing | Dec. 21, 2016 | Illumination | Beats Moana domestic. The McConaissance Continues
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I think it'll do slightly worse than Pets but still very well. I'm surprised it's not being released in the UK until January unless Universal didn't want to compete with Moana but it only has two weeks until Lego Batman which will likely cut into its legs as The Lego Movie was very popular over here, it has early release in many places such as Germany and Portugal.