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When SYFY WIRE asked Dan Lin about making a sequel, possibly a remake of original direct-to-video follow-up Aladdin: The Return of Jafar, he was optimistic.
"We’d love to," the producer says. "People clearly loved the movie and watched it multiple times and we get lots of fan letters and people asking us to make Return [of] Jafar, and I can just tell you that we’re in early stages right now, but we’re certainly talking about another movie."
"The audience response has really touched us in thinking about where we can go with these stories," he adds, "and we feel like these characters have more adventures in store."
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/aladdin-sequel-early-stages-disney
Aladdin producer Dan Lin about the potential of a second Aladdin movie:
"If I told you the fans would go crazy. It's just too early for me to reveal. But just know that we're looking at a lot of different source material and it's not going to be based on one singular source, but we're going to take the best of everything that's been done before and create something fresh and new."
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2478016/disneys-possible-aladdin-sequel-will-be-fresh-and-new
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2 hours ago, cannastop said:
wait. Weren't you just saying that the first Frozen peaked popularity?
Exactly, I don't want Frozen 2 to be seen as a disappointment even if it does well (but not $600M dom or $2B ww)
The same thing happened with Age of Ultron
2 hours ago, Porthos said:Wow. Different people have different opinions.
Who'd thunk it.
I'm trying to follow the logic here. Wouldn't the success of TS4 from a low OW point to a landscape where Frozen could take off?
As for this:
Some people have been loudly demanding a sequel to Frozen since approximately five seconds after Frozen took off.
I really am struggling to understand what your point here.
Again we gotta stop comparing the Pixar sequels with Frozen 2
FD, I2 and TS4 had that nostalgia factor
TS4 can also be seen as the "finale" of a beloved franchise that's 24 years old plus it has the rave reviews from critics (97% on RT)
Frozen is merely 6 years old
2 hours ago, Porthos said:Also, I find the comparison to Shrek 3 odd as there is literally zero sign to any sort of Frozen backlash out there. As @captainwondyful pointed out, the falderal over Olaf wasn't about Frozen, per se, but being in front of something unrelated.
But even if I granted that Olaf damaged the brand, and I don't, just where is the sign for the Frozen backlash that would signal a Shrek 2 to Shrek 3 drop.
I mean, let's talk about Shrek 2 for a second. I am one of the biggest proponents of taking user ratings with a grain of salt, but where exactly is the critical re-evaluation for Frozen? Shrek 2's Audience Rating on RT is 69/100. Meanwhile. Frozen is 85/100.
Okay, lol audience ratings. I'm right with you there. But how do you explain how Frozen is one of THE biggest moneymakers for Disney?
I can see Frozen 2 being flat or falling a bit, even if I don't think it will. I've talked about how it could happen quite a bit (effing with nostalgia is dan-ger-ous). But what I don't see is any sort of Frozen backlash out there right now. Just the opposite.
And if one is going to point to LOUD NOISES on the INTERNET as proof that something isn't popular, then nothing would be as just about every last thing that gets enough attention to get cared about also gets enough people to piss and moan about how awful it all is.
After all, pissing and moaning about how awfully it is that some things are popular is one of the major drivers of internet traffic.
A peak is a peak and Frozen's was just massive
It's just hard to see F2 being bigger than that
That's what I meant when I mentioned Shrek 3
Those loud noises on the internet seem to pick and choose which popular movies to crap on huh?
Never seen any hate towards the Avengers movies or whatever
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Anyway...
I guess I had a lot of pent up anger, I gotta stop taking these movies seriously lol
That one comment before my post just set me off, my apologies, didn't mean to generalize all of you with "bandwagoners"
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People were saying "Frozen fatigue! Overrated Frozen! Olaf short is horrible, franchise fatigue!"
Then some cute little trailers come and people are saying "$2B! $600M DOM!!!"
Ridiculous
People who even hated the first movie are now setting Frozen 2 up for disappointment SMH
Just like how y'all were so sure Toy Story 4 was a disappointment
and now it has the biggest opening of the franchise, biggest opening for animated films WW, about to pass TS3 domestic and possibly WW
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Frozen was Shrek 2, it skipped the cult hit stage of Shrek, it just exploded and peaked with one movie
There's not much room to grow, Frozen 2 should be compared to Shrek 3
Shrek 2 also had legs and huge DVD sales for its time, but Shrek 3 didn't outgross it
Like Shrek 3, I'm expecting F2 to have the biggest opening...but that's it
And I wish people would stop comparing this to I2, that had a 14 year build up of nostalgia and was the only Pixar movie where people actually demanded a sequel
Whereas before the trailers came out everyone was crapping on this franchise especially when that long Olaf short film got a lot of hate during Coco's run
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The over-predictions in here reminds me of Age of Ultron pre-release
It's all hype from the trailers and goodwill of the predecessor
Y'all are just setting F2 up to be a disappointment even if it inevitably succeeds
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1 hour ago, Melvin Frohike said:
Domestically, I thought that Frozen underperformed for such a phenomenon. I still see numerous people who are proud that they've never seen the original movie (as a result of the severe backlash). Did Frozen do as well as it did at the domestic box office only because it became such a cultural phenomenon, in spite of it, or some of both?
By the way, I have also seen a bunch of these people (here and there online in large venues such as YouTube) become interested because of the sequel's trailers; some of them even finally watched the original movie, and the response has generally been positive in such cases. The sequel's trailers are apparently helping the franchise as a whole shake off some of the backlash and stigma against it.
Frozen underperformed in Latin America for some reason, leaving room for growth in a region that if I remember correctly tends to favor animated sequels growing, in general.
To sum it up: people see Frozen as a "little girls' movie"
US and Latin American culture highly emphasize masculinity and this is a movie about not one but two Disney Princesses and "love"
By far the "girliest" movie in the top 50 highest grossing of all time list
Things loved by young girls usually face backlash and people are proud to hate on them: Titanic, Twilight, Justin Bieber, Frozen
It is what it is, humans hate femininity
Frozen 2's trailers are all action-oriented and darker colors, darker tone, no singing and romance, more masculine
If Elsa and Anna were men, Frozen 1 would've done Incredibles 2 numbers DOM
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I'm totally against an Avatar re-release, at least until Avatar 2 comes out
I'll lose some respect actually if they re-release it just to reclaim the title (pointless!) just like how I didn't like the rushed Endgame re-release
Like I said before, Avatar being #2 means that the bandwagoner haters who crapped on the movie all these years can finally loosen up a bit
Had it stayed at #1, people will be more hostile and more repelled from checking out Avatar 2
Obviously it's up to Disney and JC but IMO a double feature for A1/A2 in 2021 would be a better idea than a rushed A1 re-release this year or next year
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The highest grossing movie of all time has characters playing Fortnite and doing the dab
Long live the cinema
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I truly hope MCU redeems the X-Men and the Fantastic Four
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Scar (Endgame) has finally killed and dethroned Mufasa (Avatar) with a help of a stampede (literally in some theaters)
but Simba (Avatar 2) will come to avenge his father and claim the throne
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BATB overperformed because of one crucial factor
Spoiler
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On 2/1/2019 at 2:20 PM, Valonqar said:
Hobbs&Shaw vs Finn&Paw. Simple version.
Not so simple version:
F&F movies make over 1B OS alone while SW is in a freefall OS.
F&F movies are gigantic in Asia and LA while SW is dead there except in Japan
Hobbs is the most popular F&F character and Shaw is the break out. OTOH, new SW characters can't even sell toys and oldies are dead and ruined anyway.
There's super excitement for this. There's palatable lack of anticipation for IX.
Hobbs&Shaw are fandom's wet dream pairing. Even Tumblr gave up on Finn&Poe.
- H&S is not a F&F movie though, it's a spin-off like Solo
- Removing Vin from the equation is like removing $100M from its potential China gross
- Dom is still the most popular F&F character or else Hobbs would've been the lead in these movies like how Dom took over Brian's lead role (Brian was the lead in the first two F&F movies) But then again maybe that's why they're beefing like immature high schoolers instead of being professional actors
- Speak for yourself, IX teaser reception, Vanity Fair photos, etc. have been very good
- I don't even know what that last point is about
Out. Will H&S even hit a billion?
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I may have overestimated Mulan (thanks a lot Liu Yifei!) and underestimated Black Widow
BW and Bond 25 seem like they're gonna rule next year, the peak of spy films coming after the peak of superhero films (2018-2019) perhaps?
Minions 2 will also be a spy film, kiddie version (literally with kid Gru)
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Zendaya would've pulled it off nicely IMO, oh well
The box office is gonna be interesting for this especially internationally
Black Ariel, female Scuttle, etc. Disney is taking risks with this Renaissance remake unlike before
The more accurate the remake is to the original, the more it becomes successful
I'm already seeing a lot of dislikes on YouTube videos that are spreading this news
Imagine if the first teaser for this gets Ghostbusters levels of hate/backlash, yikes
No matter how much we are ok with a Black Ariel there's still a huge amount of people out there who won't be
Remember, no one was angry that the 2019 Genie is black, people were angry when they saw that Will Smith wasn't blue in the first pics released
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2 hours ago, stephanos13 said:
Isn't it weird that they stated to cast the supporting characters instead of the main star of the movie?
They also had trouble casting Aladdin, I think he was the last one to be casted
1 hour ago, jedijake said:How will Zendaya being cast affect the already present Ariel merchandise and Disney meet and greets? They don't exactly look alike and they aren't about to just throw away all of the old Ariel merchandise. I'm all for diverse casting but at the expense of images from the past 30 years?
Not meaning to sound racist whatsoever, but while adults who were kids in 1989 won't have any issues, what about little kids that discovered Ariel as a pale, redhead girl who looks more Norwegian?
As long as she has red hair and a green tail I think people will instantly recognize Ariel
The adults are more likely to have issues with a black Ariel than children tbh
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2 hours ago, Maxmoser3 said:
Music seems to be the most successful thing of the summer. Aladdin(even though I wasn’t a fan), Rocketman, and now Yesterday are all doing well! Maybe Blinded By The Light will do well in August next.
Bodes well for The Lion King 👍
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Where is that gif of Neytiri as Iron Man having all the infinity stones?
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Unpopular opinion but TS4 > TS3
This movie is about purpose, identity and lifelong dreams and what happens when you "lose" those, much more powerful themes for me but I get that the friendship/nostalgia/longing for childhood again themes of TS3 is more digestible for a wider audience
This movie is also about empathy, very touching and rare for a blockbuster
One of the scenes that stood out for me for some reason was Woody and Bo Peep finding each other again after 9 years, that was so memorable
Not to mention the animation was godly
What a great way to wrap up this franchise and this decade for Pixar!
4 > 3 > 2 > 1
What a saga!
Other unpopular opinions:
I2 > The Incredibles
Finding Dory > Finding Nemo
Add Inside Out and Coco to these and that is why the 2010s might be my favorite decade for Pixar
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34 minutes ago, Melvin Frohike said:
Whoa, someone just got pwned!
And all that utter tripe about Frozen supposedly being too girly, and would have weaker legs than Tangled as a result--hilarious! 🤣 In reality (and hindsight, to be fair), Frozen's DOM male/female balance was comparable to that of the Hunger Games series, which for a female-led movie is among the best--a bit better than Tangled and Maleficent, which in turn are better than the vast majority of female-led movies. It's also better balanced than Marvel's MCU movies, which skew male more heavily, on the average. Boys and men like Frozen just fine, thank you very much. And Frozen's legs were far stronger than Tangled's legs, which were very strong themselves.
I mean, the opening scene alone features the manliest Disney song since "I'll Make a Man Out of You"
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5 hours ago, scabab said:
Becoming the biggest movie of all time by trickling past the current leader is lame.
You want something to smash Avatar not trickle past. Like how Avatar smashed Titanic, Titanic smashed Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park smashed E.T etc.
5 hours ago, Menor said:Becoming the biggest movie of all time (which to be clear it's still pretty unlikely for Endgame to do that) in any way is not "lame".
Becoming the first and only movie ever to claim "biggest movie of all time" because of a re-release is kinda lame
(Assuming it happens of course)
Frozen II | Nov 22 2019 | 2nd Most Profitable Movie of 2019. Disney does it again! | Documentary series coming to D+ June 26
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Ok ok, might have to bump my $1.3B ww prediction to $1.4B ww
In a perfect world this would reclaim the "highest grossing animated film" title from TLK
Still no songs though? Even Frozen 1 previewed a song in one of its trailers