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    No Way Home Weekend Thread | #RIP AIW Record | 260M OW DOM | 340M OS | 600M OW WW W/O CHINA

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

    in Box Office Discussion

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    13 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

    One google search and guess what I found, an Avatar forum where people were discussing the good/bad science of Avatar!

     

    https://forum.learnnavi.org/general-avatar-discussion/bad-and-good-science-in-avatar!/msg472046/?PHPSESSID=836k58n5s2m3p3s4n5mcsu0vc4#msg472046

     

    Looks like the actual planet of Pandora is likely impossible.

     

    Let's first start off with Pandora. As everybody knows, Pandora orbits Polyphemus, which orbits Alpha Centauri A. Polyphemus is HUGE, HUGE as Jupiter. Pandora is also not small. To have appreciable gravity (read "mass") about 0.8 that of Earth and have a reasonable density, such as that of the Earth, Pandora has to have a big radius (barring the remote possibility that except for a small layer of dust on the top Pandora is made of pure lead).

    Large radius and nearby HUGE Polyphemus translates to, you guessed it, enormous tidal forces. Tidal forces come from the difference in gravitational pull on Pandora's near side to Polyphemus and its far side. To clear things up, think about this. Since Pandora's far side is quite a bit farther than the near side to Polyphemus, it will feel a smaller gravitational pull towards Polyphemus. In the frame of reference of Pandora, this creates a constant tidal force acting on the moon.

    Which means what? First of all, assuming Pandora has a tectonic plate structure - which is reasonable considering that it has quite Earth-like mountains - huge tidal forces will create constant earthquakes and violent volcano eruptions. Hometree would fall quite soon without the RDA's help. Why would this happen? Well, the tidal force makes Pandora oval-shaped, with the long end pointed towards Polyphemus. However, Pandora seems to rotate quite normally, so this has to mean that its crust deforms constantly, which of course results in earthquakes.

    Enormous ocean tides would also be a problem. I guess that the Ikran People of the Eastern Sea would need to use their ikrans to escape flooded territory and fly back when it dries up...though this seems a far more skxawng-ish solution than simply moving inland.
     

    There's some back and forth on this subject, but most people seem to agree that it's location, size, gravity et all, would not be conductive to sustaining life because of lots of earthquakes and other bad stuff.

     

     

    "The floating mountains of Pandora float apparently because of the strong magnetic field levitating them. A magnetic field strong enough to levitate mountain-sized superconductors (assuming they are pure unobtanium) should be strong enough to suck all of the RDA machinery to the Tree of Souls. The enormous magnetic flux that would be generated by moving would mess up with people's brains and nervous systems, making them a hallucinating skxawng at least and a corpse arcing on itself with 100-amp electric currents at most."

     

    Now Cameron knew this specific thing was not very realistic, but guess what, he kept it anyway because it looks cool!

     

    These are just two examples I found in 5-10 minutes.

    Good copy paste.

    Tell me more about science ?

    Today the science we know hasn't been advanced to level what JC is trying to show us. In future like in 2150s it will be possible for humans to travel to Alpha Centauri system.

    You are a student of science there's nothing impossible in science but we need to discover things.

    Scientists of today are trying find a way to make a spaceship which can travel at speed of light or somewhat closer to it. Google (Alcubierre Drive).

    So today it might looks like no no that's impossible but tomorrow it would be like oh yeah 145 years ago there was a movie on Alpha Centauri A's moon called Avatar.

     

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

    in Box Office Discussion

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    7 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

    I would be willing to bet that there isn't a single sci-fi movie that is 100% realistic in terms of it's depiction of the science therein.  I know some have gotten really close, but movies are movies for a reason and some creative license has to be taken.

    tell me what's not realistic in Avatar ? in term of Physics, Chemistry and Bio. 

    It's not that I'm doing it on hating or something. But I want to learn more and more.

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

    in Box Office Discussion

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    3 hours ago, Brainbug said:

    I know i used to joke about this film never releasing, but with the date now set in stone: Im really, really excited about the BO run of this movie for two reasons.

     

    1) It will prove the Cameron-loonies or the naysayers wrong. How much will this film earn? Will it be able to recreate the perferct storm that was Avatar? Or will it be "only" a highly successfull sequel that wont be able to reach those hights? Well find it out. And the discussions about it will finally end.

     

    2) The pure potential for awesome numbers. 1B runs are exciting, 1,5B runs are great, 2B runs are extraordinary - and Avatar 2 is one of the the few films that has the potential to surpass 2B. It also has the potential to do 3B, if everything goes right. And it has the potential to be the "most disappointing 1,6B earner of all time" (future quote from @IronJimbo). The range where this film could land is gigantic.

     

     

    You mean DOM right ?

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