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    A Look at The Biggest Box Office Stories from 1972-present (THABOS: The History of Amazing Box Office Stories) | IT'S FINALLY COMPLETE!!!!!!!

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    1 hour ago, baumer said:

    Hello fellow readers.

     

    I am constantly issuing apologies for my apathy towards this thread and unfortunately, I don't have any good news right now.  

     

    I am taking the rest of the summer off from here, for the most part.  I really wanted to finish this but it became too much of an ambitious project for me.  I have a lot of personal issues that require my time and attention right now so social media and the forums are going to be lessened/eliminated for a while.  I really do feel bad that this never got completed.  I will get back to it in the fall, but for now, I need to take some time for myself.  

     

    Again, I'm very sorry about this.  

    It's cool.

    Your personal life should take precedence over t.

    Thanks anyway for the awesome write-ups.

    When you are ready to be back, we will be here. 

    Tuesday's Numbers:

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    11 hours ago, Quake said:

    I don’t get the people that think Antman and Wasp will beat JL its on 178 million now. Maybe 100 from China gets it too 278 then another 110 from US gets it to 388 million. Then 30 from UK thats 418 million. How on Earth will it dig up about 250 million more. Can’t see it. Think it will stall on 600 million. 

    Not only 'beat,'...it will apparently "crush" it. 

    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    3 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    Nah Jim and/or Lightstorm own the IP to Avatar. Disney have just acquired the contract to fund the sequels and reap the rewards

    But wouldn't that give the Disney overlords power to change whatever they want to change? Will this mean that they will run the would-be franchise to the ground with endless spin-offs and lesser directors trying (unsuccessfully) to be Jim? 

    Skyscraper | July 13 2018 | Legendary | Rawson Marshall Thurber directing. The Rock. China co-production, set in China.

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    1 hour ago, Jay Beezy said:

    He has a problem with overhyping, IMO.

    Overhyping his films?

    Well, isn't that what actors get paid for, especially supestars? If they are paid 20 million dollars for a mega-million would be- blockbuster, I feel that part of the deal includes selling it and getting people hyped up.

    If I were paid 20 million dollars for 6 months of work on a set, hell yeah I would overhype the hell out of the film I'm making. :D

    Skyscraper | July 13 2018 | Legendary | Rawson Marshall Thurber directing. The Rock. China co-production, set in China.

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    47 minutes ago, Heat Vision said:

    It seems that people want this to fail from day one.

    Always happen with successful actors.

    Seems like a lot of people are already tired of the Rock and want him to fail.

    What I don't get is that he seems like a perfectly sweet guy whose head has not swelled due to his success. He has a nice guy rep, and he seems to be a very hard-working dude...and yet people hate on him like he is Christian Bale or something.

    WTF?

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    Weekend Actuals (Page 92): Ant-Man and the Wasp 75.8M (#CRUMBLING EVEN MORE) | Jurassic World 28.6M | Incredibles 2 28.4M | The First Purge 17.4M

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    8 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

    I honestly don't think that WW had the level of importance that BP had, not to mention the level of success. 

    Financial success is only part of the equation and pop culture phenoms are not made equally. 

    In 1991,  bothTerminator 2 and Thelma & Louise became cultural phenomenons [for different reasons]; the former grossed over 200 million dollars, while the latter only grossed 45 million dollars. 

    Weekend Actuals (Page 92): Ant-Man and the Wasp 75.8M (#CRUMBLING EVEN MORE) | Jurassic World 28.6M | Incredibles 2 28.4M | The First Purge 17.4M

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    Alright.

    Keep expecting BP to get major love from the Oscars next year.

    And watch as your expectations get shattered by reality.

    I bet you that, if Stanley Kubrick came back from the dead and directed, say DC's Deadman, and the film "transcended the genre" by being some sort of philosophical exploration of humanity when faced with the concept of death, and a chronicle of how death shapes our lives,  it would still get zero Oscar nods.

    But hey, you do you.

    Never lose hope.

    Weekend Actuals (Page 92): Ant-Man and the Wasp 75.8M (#CRUMBLING EVEN MORE) | Jurassic World 28.6M | Incredibles 2 28.4M | The First Purge 17.4M

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    28 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

    Logan and AIW are not important to the Oscars. BP is. A SH movie needs a special narrative to break into the Best Picture line up. So that AMPAS doesn't feel silly for including it. It's a genre bias. Logan and AIW had/have zero such narrative while BP has a strong one.  It's in.  They don't want the repeat of TDK backlash but this time with obligatory racist accusations (even though a snub would be pure genre bias, not some other kind of bias). It's happening. Done. 

    Same said that was said about Wonder Woman and the sexism/feminism narrative, especially in the year of the #MeToo. The narrative was all there: decent film, great reviews, pop culture phenom, great box office, zeitgest captured, underserved audience being finally catered to, first major solo film for an iconic character that everyone knows, the same year in which MeToo and Weinstein happened, and then zero nods. I am sure that some people will say, "well, WW was mediocre," but hey, plenty of awful films have won Oscars. 

     

    The reality is that the Academy members, who are mostly older white men, dont give a shit at the end of the day for all that inclusivity narrative or for that whole "the first black superhero/first superheroine" narratives, no matter how much of zeigest they captured.

    Seriously, if you expect that BP is getting Oscars because of all those reasonings, your heart will be broken come February 2019.

     

    Simply put, it is not gonna happen.

    An in fact, I believe that its gigantic success will be perceived as BP's reward. At the end of the day, it is "just another superhero movie," and those older white dudes who think that "real cinema" should be about deep dramas starring white people having deep existential crises, will not vote for a film about yet another CGI costumed crimefighter battling a CGI supervillain.

     

     

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    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    2 minutes ago, Hades said:

    Marvel will get arrogant and start with 4 movies a year...then watch, as one of their top franchise movie does a Hans Solo...Going to be messy.  

    Especially after all the success they have had and all the arrogance from a select subsection of their fans, who continually gloat about the MCU and celebrate the DCEU and FOX whenever their CBMs flop. Once it's the MCU's turn to flop, underpwrform, and simply not be as potent as it is now, watch out, because the claws will be out.

    The Favourite | 23rd November, 2018 | 𝓝𝓲𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓵𝓪𝓼 𝓗𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓽 | Period Drama by Yorgos Lanthimos (The Lobster, Killing of a Sacred Deer)

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    2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

    Funny how people bitch about the lack of stakes in blockbusters while they are sobbing about the mostly inept psychological traumas in your random indie films that only concern like 4 people and a backyard aka the smallest stakes you could think of.

     

    That is because you are one of those immature fanboys who think that destroying the world/killing humanity = stakes.

    Emotional/psychological stakes involving two fleshed out, complex characters who work at a McDonalds can be infinitely more devastating and emotionally resonant than a generic rent-a-MCUCBM# 127 featuring the obliteration of 5 billion faceless human beings.

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