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Will also accept 42.69 and 42.069 if needs must.
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Marvel cannot be anything but crazy thrilled with Black Panther’s performance overall. However, they’re playing the long game, and China is a big market — they’d probably rather have a $70M total and a 8.8 Maoyan than a 140 total and a 7.8 Maoyan, because feelings toward the character will affect BP2, BP3, at least 4 avengers films probably and likely even some other character’s solo movies in which he appears.
That said, a single movie’s reception doesn’t determine how people feel about the character forever. If the complaints are mostly about issues specific to this movie’s plot/structure/action balance rather than the characters, then it’s certainly possible future movie’s could end up more liked just by regression to the mean.
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120 is still a lot better than almost anyone was expecting a month ago and all MCU first entries iirc. This is more concerning with regard to possible reception of BP2 in my opinion, but that can also be affected by IW and A4.
Ant-Man&the Wasp would only need a pretty modest increase from the well received first part 3 years ago to beat BP in China then, which would be really amusing when you look at the ratio between number six for those 2 domestically.
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11 minutes ago, commendable said:
Am I misunderstand or did u say 169m opening day? You mean final gross right?
No, 160-190M opening day. That’s in Yuan though, not dollars. Would be an OD in the low-mid $20s.
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14 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:
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It’s more than 80% likely. A mere 660 DOM, 100 China, 510 OS-China would do it, and all of those numbers are beatable.
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2 hours ago, IronJimbo said:
I think it's only fair to use the Terminator multiplier on all other Jim originals being made into 4 sequels.
Yeah, over 3.5 DOM for Avatar 2 EZ.
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For a weekend just over 66, beating Jurassic World for 3rd place on fastest to 500. It’s not even the second best third weekend ever though, so seems kind of like Black Panther is C R U M B L I N G
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11 minutes ago, KP1025 said:
SW9 could do it if it's another crowdpleaser like TFA. Only needs a 13% increase from TLJ, and the third film in SW trilogies have traditionally increased from the second film. Avatar 2 is another film that could pass $700 million if its visuals are really as groundbreaking as Cameron is hinting at. Despite being the culmination of everything in the MCU, Avengers 4 will probably be too frontloaded to make it even with a record-breaking OW.
Those immediately came to mind as the two best candidates, but I wouldn’t personally give either of them 50% or better chances right now.
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More interesting/difficult question imo: how long until the top 10 are all 700+ grossers? We’ve got 2 now, maybe 3 if Panther legs it very well, and nothing else on the horizon that I’d consider favored to get there. Can we get there in under a dozen years? Under a decade?
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Only need 2 years for 600+ top 10 — BP, A3&4, Ep IX
Of course you could also have a wildcard get us there even before IX, or fill in for an underperforming Avengers.
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29 minutes ago, commendable said:
Rpo - I predict opening weekend, a million dollars!
Also, is BP locked for highest grossing solo SH film yet?
Yes, by a good margin.
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9 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:
Well, that's the numerator.
But to check what I asked we'd also need the denominator.
BOM has 170 movies opening between 40 and 60, and 1796 opening between 55 and 10 (don’t list below 10). So depending on which range of openings you want and whether you count getting to 400 on a rerelease, either 1/170, 5/170, 1/1796, or 5/1796 (not counting Jumanji for any of those, since it has not yet crossed 400).
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31 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:
Whoops, yeah, 5 in all. Re-releases screw it up, but to be fair all of their original releases adjust to over $400...
Jurassic Park and The Lion King also adjust out of a <55 opening — although Star Wars and E.T. still qualify adjusted.
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8 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:
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There's only 29 movies over $400m at the moment, so it wasn't hard to check.
This is in Jurassic Park, The Lion King, Titanic, and ... ?
E.T and Star Wars both get there in rereleases. Is it those three in addition to Jumanji, or did I just miss one.
Edit: Jurassic Park and The Lion Kind also get there in the rereleases, actually. I have 5 total and only Titanic in original release.
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4 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:
I don't know why people are talking about BP barely passing Avengers, BP is currently over by 34mil slightly better holds.
BP won’t get any summer benefit later in its run the way Avengers did. It should remain ahead for the whole run, but it’s still possible for the lead to narrow a bit rather than widening. That said, I think a lot of people are expecting it to beat Avengers by at least 34 in the end.
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RIP dreams of beating Civil War and IM3’s 2nd weekends (also, did you know those two had 2nd weekend that were only 112k apart? Spooky). Can we please at least beat GotG2’s 2nd weekend?
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That would be a 43% Friday to Friday drop, so same Sat and Sun increase and drop as last weekend would give us only 64, to miss on 500M.
Of course if the actual is like 16.7 then it would just barely be on track to make it with weekend drop matching the Fri-to-Fri.
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He speaks!
BP 16.9 still unconfirmed though.
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So 65 needed to beat JW on the Fastest to 500 chart? IN
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75 seems crazy, but that’s what I thought about BOM’s 120, and that ended up being a pretty good estimate. If the 3rd weekend falls below that estimate to the same degree, we’ll end up with 111/120*75= 69
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57 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
IW + BP is now locked for combined 1 billion domestic this year and 2.5 billion WW.
MCU 2018 stretch goals: 1.5 DOM, 3.5 WW
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2 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:
Unfortunately, March will have no 100M grossers
At least there will be a movie that makes over 150M in March
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Now a 3.5 multiplier with this weekend only gets it to 683
The only thing that can save this movie movie now is 69M next weekend.
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5 minutes ago, a2knet said:
113 weekend, 395 cume.
if it addds 2x the weekend more,
395 + 113*2 = 621, pessimistic case
dp added 2.23x the weekend more. gives 655
so far it has trended much better than dp. bp's current multiplier is 1.96x while dp's 10-day multiplier 1.79x.
2.5x seems realistic and gives 677.5.
#3 behind tfa and avatar is a great target atm. it's getting #5 at least.
The cume is 405, so add 10 to everything.
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Weekend Thread: Weekend estimates pg 38...BP 41.14....WIT 33.31
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Posted · Edited by Sliver Legion
BP dropped 44.7% 2nd weekend, and 40.6% 3rd. If it can come in with 42.1 here that would be a 36.5% drop, which is a perfect linear progression in terms of percentage drops. Some simple extrapolation would then give a 32.4% drop for next weekend (28.46), unfortunately falling below Frozen to be only the 4th best 5th weekend ever.
A little more simple extrapolation reveals that BP would drop only 3.7% in its 12th weekend and then see an increase of .4% in its 13th before having a whopping 29.1% weekend to weekend increase for its 20th weekend