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4 hours ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said:
DP was expected to do $1b, and to be the big break-out of last summer. Sonic was expected to flop till few weeks ago. Sonic is a far bigger story than Pikachu.
Plus, Pikachu carries one of the biggest brand in the world, the same can't be said about Sonic. DP's numbers were a disappointment.
Literally the only place where Pika's numbers are considered disappointment is this forum. Anywhere else the film is considered a success. Sonic wouldn't survive where Pikachu was and that's a fact.
DP was on track with what WB predicted it would make and it was easily there most successful non R rated film of the year.
Anyways Paramount needs this cause they haven't gotten much in the W column and this is a breathe of fresh air for them.
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2 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
I don’t think anyone really cares about Sonic vs Pikachu box office wise. I’d be more happy about Paramount having a hit.
There's been a lot of Sonic V Pika literally in every thread. The last 3 pages of the Sonic thread for example.
Paramount having a hit is what matters. Any studio besides Disney being successful is a good thing.
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2 minutes ago, DAJK said:
your conclusion there makes no sense. Sonic has all the advantages. Pikachu beats sonic in "every which way possible". I don't know if you mean in terms of your opinion of the two movies, but the only actual box office figures we have are Thursday previews so maybe lets slow down the hyperbole and keep opinions on franchises in their respective threads
It makes as much sense as you saying Sonic's 4 day is a comparison to Pika's 3 days. Why not do Sonic's 4 days with Pika's 4 days.
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10 minutes ago, DAJK said:
one's opening in a dead February, the other in a crowded summer season sandwiched between nearly 4 billion worth of Disney fare. Previews are much stronger in summer months anyways. I'm still confident in Sonic coming close to DP's OW in its 4-day opening, and from there it's got a good shot at reaching Pika DOM
This is exactly why comparisons between the two is not sustainable. Pikachu opened up with a ridiculous amount of competition including the highest grossing film of all time. Not to mention new blockbusters week after week after week. Sonic meanwhile's only competition is the lowest rated opening in the DCEU. It's next competition is a Pixar film getting zero buzz and a Disney live action that is doing everything possible to turn off domestic audiences while catering every which way to a country that is not even bothering going to theaters for a very good and serious reason. Wow Sonic's 4 day matching Pikachu's 3 day. So it couldn't match Pikachu's 4 days...good to know.
None of these comparisons work, and in every which way possible Pikachu beats Sonic by a landslide. And that's with the amount of ridiculous competition Pikachu had.
Just celebrate good video game films and hope this is a positive step forward for the genre.
Also this is a thumbs up for Paramount.
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4 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
Depends on walkups and WOM. Sonic could have a lower OW but bigger DOM.
Depends on second weekend drop I guess. Sonic has way less competition then Pika did but depending on what it does this weekend plus the drops will ultimately determine things.
Pika made 144M DOM.
I doubt Sonic is touching Pika's WW. Not enough popularity for Sonic OS.
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5 minutes ago, john2000 said:
it can still beat it, at the same time our range here was 3-4 mill , with the average being around 3,5 mill , so pretty close , we will see when the actuals come ,
Pika made 5.6 in it's previews. Sonic made 2.6 less then that.
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52 minutes ago, Coldbird said:
3m is called for sonic, seems like it was overpredicted slightly.
So much for it beating Pikachu. Which was what people are saying around here.
Celebrate good video game films, it's only good for the genre and God does the genre need good movies.
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1 minute ago, Eric the Hedgehog said:
Cool. I thought TROS was trash too. I just think the shot’s cool. Take a chill pill.
I mean at least we both acknowledge it's trash.
Not a fan of the Pika and Sonic competition. Why can't we embrace both, are we forgetting these two tried to save each other from the snap? There's clearly no animosity.
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5 minutes ago, Eric the Hedgehog said:
It was a dumb but harmless romp for the kiddies. FWIW, I liked it more than Detective Pikachu. This one at least was aware it was stupid
Says the dude with The Rise of Skywalker gif, really?
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19 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
I mean end game gobbled it up hard too. BOP isn't similar just 10x less popular.
Sonic has room to soar.
People seem to forget how much competition DP had and was still able to be successful. Sonic could not survive where Pikachu was.
Sonic in it's place now has room to soar especially with such lackluster releases on the horizon and BOP being a flop BO wise. I don't think Sonic will make more then Pikachu but here's hoping WB takes notice and gives Pika 2 a better release date.
And Paramount needs a win. This is a win for video game films and Paramount a non Disney studio. It's more then welcome.
With Pika 2, Mortal Kombat, and Mario on horizon hopefully the video game movie genre only goes up from here.
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So far Sonic is looking at a 4 million preview. Which could lead to a around 45 million weekend.
In my area for preview night Sonic is doing decent. No showings are sold out. But they are semi full.
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I mean...taking a dump is better then The Emoji Movie.
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24 minutes ago, DAJK said:
that's the problem tho when we're so into something, is that we don't realize that nobody outside our circle cares. Same with cult classic movies (guaranteed movies like Kick Ass/The Room etc. aren't as popular irl than they are among online communities). Same with comic books. Same with video games; I know for example The Witcher was a huge selling game, but I've met one person in real life who's played the games. Most people know the brand from the TV Show.
The Witcher was a book series before even the game.
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8 minutes ago, OncomingStorm93 said:
If this is truly as enjoyable as the reviews suggest, it makes the initial character design even more head-scratching. How could they get so much right (for the mindless video game entertainment this is) yet get the design so wrong?
I'm still waiting cause it's dropped a lot on RT. This morning it was a 73% it's dropped since then to a 64%
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Just now, DAJK said:
He's saying most people. And yea, I totally agree. I never played any of the games, but I did watch the show when I was a kid. The show was definitely more popular than the games anyways.
The games literally were some of the highest selling hand held titles of all time but go off I guess.
The success of the games also is why they created the anime and not to mention the trading card game.
Why people feel the need to compare this to DP is beyond me. A successful video game film is a success for all. DP was a success, this is looking to be a success. That's great, and now there's hope for a future for video game films.
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51 minutes ago, John Marston said:
Makes sense this might do better tHan Detective Pikachu. Better lead actors and when people think of Sonic they probably have fond memories of the games while most people who think of Pokémon think of the anime which is honestly was a dumb show when you look back on it
Huh this makes no sense? My dude the games came out 2 years before the anime started.
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18 minutes ago, Madhuvan said:
But Mando does help in elevating Baby Yoda.
Justice Smith didn't elevate Pikachu. Pikachu became superior.
I think for the sequel they should bring in Red played by someone like Tom Holland.
Pikachu and Baby Yoda were superior and the stars only difference is Baby Yoda was not supposed to be the star. Pikachu was.
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Yeah we're definitely not gonna be able to get a vibe from Sonic for a while. Keeps going up then down.
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33 minutes ago, DlAMONDZ said:
Has the curse been lifted?
This guy lifted the curse.
As of this post Sonic dropped to a 69%
We're not gonna have a clear trajectory till likely tonight in regards to the tomatometer.
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6 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
So was Detective Pikachu considered a success?
Yes DP was considered a success.
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25 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
Who????
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Who knows what video game films will start coming soon thanks to the success of Pika Pika and now Sonic.
Of course we'll get sequels for both. We've got Mortal Kombat and Mario. Hopefully Disney will bring in Kingdom Hearts into the mix when they see how well video games can perform as films. Though TBH I'd prefer a Disney + KH series.
Persona 5 screams Netflix Live Action Adaptation.
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Just now, grey ghost said:
I wonder if the make over controversy will help this.
What's this tracking at?
45-50 M OW. Really good. It also helps that BOP is such a huge flop so many theaters will likely be giving this the big screens the entire day instead of just mornings and matinees.
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3 minutes ago, TMP said:
Detective Pikachu was bad though...
On the plus side box office for Sonic looks promising, not DP level but still a good thing especially for Paramount.
It's gonna be refreshing to start seeing more video game movies.
We got Mortal Kombat, Detective Pikachu 2, Mario, and likely Sonic 2 coming.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
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Posted · Edited by Cappoedameron
Birds of Prey is entirely different situation. The marketing for that film was atrocious and led to many controversial headlines that turned people off from the film. They also screwed up entirely by making it Rated R when a lot of Harley's demographic is teens. Many poor decisions resulted in Birds of Prey's poor box office performance.
History and what actually happened. Sonic is looking towards a 45 million opening weekend. 55 with Presidents day added to that. Pikachu did 55 million on it's 3 day OW. Without President's Day Sonic would be opening at 45 million.
The following week if Sonic was in Pika's slot was JW3 followed by Aladdin followed by Godzilla. It would not have survived.
The other savior of this film is the poor release slots around it. The worst grossing DCEU film, a pixar film with barely any buzz, and a movie that is targeted at a country that doesn't care about going to the movies at the moment cause of a health crisis and it's turned off a lot of people domestically cause it's erasure of many things that made the original film what it was.