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34 minutes ago, AniNate said:
GDT wouldn't be the right fit imo. His semi satirical directing style clashes with the resoundingly earnest tone of Avatar.
Oh he can do earnest, have you seen the trailer for his Pinocchio movie? Don't tell me that isn't earnest...
But it's not just about style, it's also who you trust. Let's take Empire Strikes Back for instance, nothing in Irvin Kershner's career would make you think he was the right fit to directed a Star Wars sequel. But Lucas trusted him, Kershner had been his teacher in the past and they were sort of distant friends. And it gave us what many consider to be the best Star Wars movie.
When I think of director friends Cameron has, I'm thinking mainly of 2 names: del Toro, and Rodriguez. I like Rodriguez but he is probably too scrappy to make an Avatar movie. GDT has a more polished style, which might be all that's needed.
But any of this probably won't matter, because in the end Cameron will direct all four sequels and make 10 bajillion dollars.
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24 minutes ago, stuart360 said:
Seen 'insiders' say that Cameron is trying to scare Disney into getting more money out of them for the sequels, something he's done before on films.
We know he's already shot parts of A4, and according to Stephen Lang he's even shot the finale to A5.
So yeah if A2 and A3 are huge (which they will be) and Disney go ahead with 4 and 5, i'm 99% crtain Cameron will be directing them.
Yeah I still believe he will do all of them, most likely. It's really just a "what if"
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2 hours ago, SullyJake said:
Damn i hope not, Shape of water was awful
Well honestly I still haven't seen it
It's one of those movies that I mean to see but stay stuck in my watchlist for a long time. But I have seen enough of his work to know he could do something with the material, with Cameron's guidance of course. Don't be so negative!
Nobody is a bigger Cameron supporter than I am, I just try to manage my expectations. Making a movie for him is an all consuming project, which is why he makes so few of them. And now we're almost certainly getting 2 big ones in a relatively small interval. I am already pretty satisfied with that, everything else will be a bonus.
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6 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:
Del Toro has seen it (and loved it)
When Cameron said he might not direct all 4 Avatar sequels, I thought my #1 pick to replace him would be Del Toro. Proficient with VFX, big scale action and good too at pulling emotional strings. Hell he won an Oscar for a movie named "The Shape of Water" about a love story between a human and a humanoid creature. I'm sure he could do something interesting with Avatar.
Now given the fact he has already seen the sequel, I wouldn't be surprised if that possibility was discussed. But of course I'm still hoping Cameron will direct all 4!
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now that was the money
much prefer that one
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8 minutes ago, NCsoft said:
I really do like that there seems to be another trailer, while I liked the second trailer, I felt like it didn't quite do enough to drum up anticipation for those who are not already looking forward to A2, and the first teaser already kind of accomplished the "lure people back with the beauty of Pandora" which makes the second one a little redundant. This upcoming trailer I hope reveals more plot points and be more action packed.
I wouldn't doubt it.
We got the Good Morning America trailer, now we're getting the Monday Night Football trailer.
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1 hour ago, M37 said:
Yes, I’m sure everyone was describing it as “best movie or the year” only because it “looked cool”
That doesn't mean anything. For a lot of people that's probably the only movie they saw in a theater this year
1 hour ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:
Well what then? the half-boiled love story between Connelly and Cruise's Character? The rehashed story from the original?
Anyway this isn't the Top Gun thread. But I stand by firmly that the majority of the gross of that movie is due to the visuals. Even if I thought it was a very good movie outside of that, it doesn't make close to 1.5 billion without that selling point. Not half of that.
Visuals are still a strong selling point, you need to give a reason to people to see a movie on a big screen. You can go back all the way to Star Wars and all the highest grossing movies that followed. They all offered something spectacular in terms of visuals, something people had not seen before, and Top Gun did that as well, it showed fighter Jet action scenes in a new way. Marvel bucked that trend a little bit by instead cultivating brand loyalty, but that doesn't mean people don't care about visual spectacle anymore.
The thing is it's not easy to make visual spectacle that's innovative, that's why it took 13 years for Avatar 2 to happen.
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2 hours ago, M37 said:
The gap between home and even PLF has shrunk, visuals/experience are no longer the primary selling point, but its all about content. Unless a movie is some major story with fans and spoilers, people are increasingly content to wait for a time and price point that suits theme (see basically every drama movie in last 18 months).
counterpoint: Top Gun: Maverick
Why do you think that movie made so much money? It's not because it had an amazing story I tell you that. It gets competently from point A to point Z but that's about it. No, the major selling point here was the fighter jet scenes. The buzz was all about how it looked cool.
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1 hour ago, Maggie said:
I'm playing devil's advocate, but the First Black Panther made over 700M yet this second one is gonna drop hard. The circumstances are not exactly the same, but i wonder why the hard drop for Wakanda and what it could mean for A2?
Try completely different
I don't think anyone should move their predictions by even a hair
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1 hour ago, Deep Wang said:
I don't think that's really applicable here. T1 > T2 was a huge, revelatory step forward in VFX.
Avatar was so far ahead of the game it still looks amazing today. Not sure where it can go from already damn near perfect.
There are always ways to push visuals. Many people already made the mistake of assuming the first Avatar wasn't going to impress because "everything had already been done with CG"
I'm just saying you have to keep an open mind on these things, especially since it's Cameron and his goal is always to push the envelope in terms of visual. And he has not waited 13 years to make the same movie again.
Already from what I have seen in the preview scene with the re-release, and from the comments I've read on it, there is still plenty of room left to surprise and wow the audience.
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3 hours ago, Deep Wang said:
I think it's kind of impossible for Avatar 2 to have Avatar 1's word of mouth. By virtue of being a sequel, there won't be that surprise factor of not knowing what you are getting yourself into.
people had no idea what that they were getting into when they saw T2 for the first time
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1 hour ago, Reddroast said:
While that is true I think your forgetting that those films have been managed in a much better way then avatar has.
I don't know what's that supposed to mean
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25 minutes ago, Reed121 said:
Something I don’t understand is how Avatar 1 didn’t receive an A+ Cinemascore considering the legs it had.
Wouldn’t Avatar 2 need an A+ this time to beat Maverick domestically?
Cinemascore isn't some precise scientific tool, it's not always reliable.
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6 minutes ago, Grebacio said:
Between the nominees there's a Zoe Saldana songShe sings??
I guess going against an established pop artist like Rihanna was a tall order
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8 minutes ago, NCsoft said:
Good to see, but tbf, considering the competition this Holiday, it would be disastrous if Avatar isn't number 1 "want to see"...
I guess the positive takeaway from the article is that gen z is still interested in going to the movies.
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Simon Franglen won the HMMA for best fantasy film score for AWOW!
The fact that Avatar is in fantasy while all the superhero movies are in sci-fi is an aberration, but I'll take it
https://nextbestpicture.com/the-2022-hollywood-music-in-media-awards-hmma-winners/
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I don't see the World Cup affecting Avatar business at all, in fact I think all it can do is help, whatever the level of hype. All I see is millions of people sitting at their TV watching ads. and you know Disney will use that as an opportunity to advertise the movie.
So maybe you will get a lower opening weekend, but it's not like Avatar is leaving theaters anytime soon after the World Cup ends.
Someone enlighten me if I'm wrong
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6 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
my guy really just brought up the possibility of the US of A reaching the wc semifinals as if it were the most normal thing in the world
cope has consumed that man's mind
Honestly I wish. A major sporting event isn't direct competition to Avatar and is a perfect opportunity to be BLASTING ADS
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1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:
Seems like they wanted the trailer not to include humans and live-action by design. The fact we know Spider is in a bunch of scenes but we didn't get one face shot of him shows this. Spider is the teen boy who looks like tarzan from the teaser trailer.
It's crazy to me that some people suggested it looked just like the original, the fact there wasn't a single human face shown in that trailer already signals a pretty clear departure from how the story was told in the original.
I wouldn't mind seeing more from the human/recom side though. I think another trailer with a different angle before the release could be beneficial. If it's a 3 hour+ movie, I'm sure there is plenty left to tease without giving away too much.
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6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:
2 would be more because of delays as well. It will release after what? 8 years in production.
That said $1B would be including everything I believe, not just production.
Not that much. Production officially started in 2017 (after the scripts for 4 movies were done and the underwater capture technology ready). Then there was a 1 year delay because it was more work than they anticipated. The other delay was due to the covid situation.
All in all I'd say the production has gone relatively smoothly for a project of this size
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2 hours ago, RichWS said:
this looks like the exact same movie
you mean like there are blue people again?
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2 hours ago, VENOM said:
by the way saying “half the worlds ocean life might die in the next decade” isn’t a positive message or trueby the way it's CENTURY not decade. Decade is 10 years, century is 100 years, in case you are confused about that
Anyway it's not like they are hopping on the popular cause of the hour to promote their movie, the ocean is something that Cameron has been passionate about for his whole life and it shows in his career. How dare he use his platform to bring a little more attention to it? He doesn't have to do this at all. It's a really silly thing to get worked up about, save your outrage energy for something else
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Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it
in Box Office Discussion
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I see a white square too, same happened to mine. Your picture was a gif too right? Possibly the site doesn't support that anymore