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1 hour ago, babz06 said:
This is honestly just crazy to me that couldn’t throw one of those previously steaming movies on those dates. For example, why did Beverly Hills Cop 4 (releasing July 3) go to Netflix? Eddie Murphy is a big star.
After last year's abundance of nostalgia flops, sending that one to Netflix was honestly a good call. I can't imagine that making anything in this day and age.
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‘IF’ Lighter At $30M+, ‘Strangers: Chapter 1’ Stronger At $12M, ‘Back To Black’ Goes Belly-Up At $3M – Saturday Box Office Update
https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-if-back-to-black-amy-winehouse-strangers-2-1235920634/
QuoteSATURDAY AM EARLY: IF is looking at $30.5M opening this weekend after a $10M Friday + previews, at 4,041 theaters and while that might scream lower than expected on the surface since it’s below its $40M projections, triple note, it’s a PG-rated live-action film. There’s a reason why they haven’t been greenlit in a while, and let’s not slam Paramount and John Krasinsksi for swinging for the fences on original content. Here’s the upside: with an A CinemaScore, this family movie is bound to leg out and fill a niche in the summer despite 50% Rotten reviews. That’s just what family movies do. Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 85% fresh. At that starting point, IF‘s opening is just north of Ryan Reynold’s Free Guy ($28.3M), a previous piece of original IP for the actor. That PG-13 movie cleared $121.6M back in the late summer/early fall of 2021.
Meanwhile, coming in ahead of projections substantially is Lionsgate’s reboot, The Strangers – Chapter 1 with $12.3M after a $5M Friday + previews in third. That opening is a step up from the previous installment, 2018’s The Strangers: Prey at Night which debuted to $10.4M from embattled distributor Aviron. Clearly there’s a fan appetite here and good on Lionsgate for overindexing on this $8.5M production. CinemaScore is a C, which is average for a horror movie, but RT audience is 42%.
Again, the more big films, the more of a rhythm moviegoing find this summer. 20th Century Studios/Disney’s Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is seeing a second weekend between $23.5M-$25M in second, a -60% to a -57% decline. War for the Planet of the Apes posted a -63% second weekend with $20.8M, so a good hold here on the Wes Ball directed sequel. On the high end, that gets Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes to $100.4M, Disney’s first century mark grossing title of 2024. At 4,075 theaters, Apes still has the Imax screens versus IF which has PLFs.
Universal’s The Fall Guy at 3,845 theaters is eyeing a $2.25M third Friday for an $8M third weekend, -42%, for a running total of $62.5M. BTW, $8M was the same amount of money that David Leitch’s Bullet Train made in its third weekend. However, Fall Guy in its running cume is falling -9% behind Bullet Train.
And, wow, OMG, Focus Features’ Back to Black isn’t finding any kind of audience at a $3M opening after a $1.25M Friday in 2,010 locations. It’s not like the audiences stateside didn’t like it: It’s getting a B+ CinemaScore and 80% Rotten Tomatoes audience score. This movie, which British critics eviscerated is not getting a fair shake, with bad word of mouth crossing the Atlantic. Back to Black was bullied on social media for myriad reasons: many didn’t like Marisa Abela’s performance and look early on (sorry, shoot me, but she’s sublime in the movie), and that 13 years was too soon to make a biopic about the tragic performer. Also, some have sniped that the whole IP isn’t cross-generational enough ala Elvis and Bohemian Rhapsody to make a dent stateside and that the movie is too British for yanks. UK music critics have taken umbrage with some of the creative licenses that the biopic has pulled off. Pity. It’s a really good movie and the scene where Winehouse meets Jack O’Connell’s Blake for the first time is wonderfully romantic.
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Just now, CJohn said:
30M+ would be solid if there wasn't a family juggernaut opening in 7 days.
Chris Pratt voicing his disdain for lasagna will kill that movie. BOMB BOMB BOMB. Sub-30M disaster.
On a more serious note, yeah, this will do okay for its first week, but then it'll be pushed out by Garfield big time. Early word for that one seems a lot better than this movie as well. Garfield also has a not too bad novelty factor as he's not a very oversaturated or overused character.
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1 hour ago, Morieris said:
It would have been kind of early.
They probably didn't have enough CGI rendered or record Keanu's lines just yet. It hasn't even been two months since filming wrapped.
I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to shift it to either Geoff Keighley's Summer Games Fest, or Sega's own Sonic Central stream, both in June. It'd be thematically appropiate, and they'd get to directly market it to gamers without the middle men of exhibition. Saving it for June would also allow them to put it in front of Inside Out 2, which is a lot better than trying to use it to salvage a doomed sinking ship like IF.
That being said, considering that Sonic 2 only had a 4-month marketing window, I also wouldn't be surprised to see them hold off until Transformers's release in September to give us a first look.
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56% with 25 reviews out of the gate. Garfield is going to tear this apart next weekend. I'm sorry, Jo(h)n.
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23 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:
I am now watching X-Men 97.
Just in time, as the current season is ending today. I hope you like it as much as I have.
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Those IF reviews tomorrow are going to make or break it. They better be great, or it's going to get destroyed by Garfield the weekend after.
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22 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Marvels leaning into the title changing jokes. Guess the trailer tomorrow will be public
This has since been deleted though. I think this was meant to be out tomorrow with the upfront, but was released early today by mistake. I've seen some people think it's a joke and that's why it got deleted, but I'm not buying that. It would be an appropriate title given what we know about the series so far.
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36 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Even if it falls off a cliff afterwards, the fact that this movie opened to almost $60M is nothing short of a miracle. It had so much going against it: It continues a story that was-by all accounts-perfectly concluded years ago, it has to deal with the absence and massive shadows of both Matt Reeves and Andy Serkis, and none of the promotional material left much of an impact. I was pretty confident it'll fall flat on its face with a $30M opening. I was thankfully proven wrong. Wes Ball especially must be overjoyed, as this impressive opening should give Nintendo and Sony all the motivation they need to get started on his Zelda movie.
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26 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
But you guys told me the bad Cinemascore would kill Apes!
It still could. Sunday was Mother's Day, so it was always going to hold very well then no matter what. Next weekend will tell us the big picture.
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41 minutes ago, John Marston said:
It’s frustrating because people keep claiming they want non Superhero fun action adventure films yet don’t go and see them when they come out. Dungeons and Dragons was kind of doomed by its brand though
I still think that the movie came out at an atrocious time. It was right against the backdrop of the huge fan revolt against franchise steward Wizards of the Coast, and it got destroyed by Mario the weekend after. With the fans driven away and general audiences saving their money for an imminent phenomenon, no one went to see it. It's a flop I'm nor sure I'll ever be able to fully get over.
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I feel like most families will simply save their money for Garfield, as it's a character and actor they already know and like to an extent. If this movie is as good as @wildphantom is saying, then Paramount is going to look bad by picking a dumb time like this to release their movie. I feel like whatever buzz this has is most likely because of the prospect of the Sonic 3 trailer being attached to it. I'd like to be proven wrong and see this fully original effects-driven piece actually do well, but my hopes on that aren't too high as of now.
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3 minutes ago, filmlover said:
That "we obviously pulled it out of our asses" twist ending should've been the tell all for a project that was crazy rushed. It was actually filmed and released in less than 9 months, an awfully fast turnaround even today for such an expensive production. Fox must've really needed an action tentpole for that summer, I guess.
The irony of you mentioning that tidbit against the backdrop of Universal preparing to rush a brand new Jurassic movie in barely a year is immense.
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11 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
I think I said base loved it and GA hated it...this Cinescore seems to be dead on with that early analysis...
If you are into the series, you'll like this one...but if you're watching for the 1st time, you're not loving what it's selling...
Ironically I am very much in the newcomer camp, and I thought it was a great time. This one definitely sold me on the appeal of the franchise. If only more people shared my sentiment, but I digress. Hopefully it ends up finding an audience on demand, although I'm not counting on that for any financial disappointment these days.
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Unfortunately this is likely a case of the masses considering the movie slow, lumbering and boring, and rejecting it as a result. It happens sometimes. Some movies, no matter how hard the people involved try, are simply not going to resonate with people.
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I just came back from Apes, and it was terrific. The visuals in particular were unreal at times. Unlike many bloated messes from last year, this movie actually felt like a $300M epic, despite actually costing half that. I'll definitely be watching the Caesar trilogy once I have the time, and have high hopes for this director's Zelda movie now. For my first Apes movie, I couldn't have asked for a better entry point.
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It seems like this is facing the same issue as the last movie, namely that its methodical, lumbering tone is turning off a lot of people outside of the core demographic. That new trilogy likely isn't happening anymore, but Wes Ball should be able to get his Zelda movie off the ground at least.
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And here's Deadline's writeup for contrast:
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: Sources tell us that 20th Century Studios‘ Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is off to a good start with previews around $6.5M. That’s comprised of Thursday night money which began accruing at 3PM and around $1.6M from Wednesday fan shows that began at 7PM.
We’ll know tomorrow AM if it’s the best Thursday night ever for an Apes movie besting 2017’s War for the Planet of the Apes which did $5M on its preview night before a $22.1M Friday and $56.2M opening. This Wes Ball directed PG-13 sequel takes place 300 years after the events of Matt Reeves’ War for the Planet of the Apes.
https://deadline.com/2024/05/box-office-kingdom-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-1235911118/
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1 minute ago, WittyUsername said:
I would’ve assumed that James Wan was completely burned out on big budget blockbusters at this point.
I second this. After how much of a shitshow he suffered through with Aquaman 2, I'm not sure if even an ocean's worth of money is going to be enough to win him over.
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2 minutes ago, TMP said:
SO happy to be wrong on this one. Lol at Disney managing their fox IP substantially better than their home-grown IP tho
Being the black sheep of the family usually means that your peers pay little attention to you, for better or worse. At least they won't meddle too much in whatever you're trying to do, unlike their golden boys.
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54 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
How the fuck have we circled back to the "it's easy, just cancel all the stuff they've already announced and filmed" nonsense again. It isn't happening.
I wasn't talking about scrapping fully filmed stuff. I was referring to filming what they have without throwing copious amounts of money in reshoots, and hoping for the best.
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Are they even going to bother with those Captain America 4 reshoots at this stage? I can't see Iger making statements like these, only to go and greenlight extensive reshoots that'll add to the already bloated budget for a movie that is a difficult sell to begin with. They're better off cutting their losses with that and Thunderbolts and focusing on their Fantastic Four reboot and whatever comes after that instead.
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It's never fun when great movies like Abigail and this one simply fall flat on their faces and bomb without ever finding an audience. And in the rapidly changing tsunami that is today's society, there isn't any room for cult classics anymore, so these movies won't even have that to fall back on. This forum is going to be unbearable for the next month at least.
My thoughts also go out to all the theater employees out there. A lot of them are likely going to be out of a job after how dry this summer is going to be.
The one party who might benefit from all this though, is Disney, who has two potentially lucrative opportunities set for later in the summer with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool 3. If those two turn out great, and end up bringing in the people in droves after a long line of flops and disappointments, the Mouse can position itself as the saviour of cinema and win back a lot of exhibitors, who no doubt have lost a lot of confidence in the studio following their abysmal centennial showing.
We'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out. For now, the future is the most uncertain it's been since the big HBO Max bombshell of December 2020.
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DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE | 07.26.2024 | Disney | latest trailer on page 76
in Box Office Discussion
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This movie was destined to open huge the moment Hugh Jackman's return was announced. The concept of seeing Ryan Reynolds's Deadpool cross paths with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine is insanely alluring. The enduring appeal of the two characters involved will seal the deal, as they can stand tall on their own even when the larger Marvel brand is in a slump.
The real wild card here is its staying power after its opening weekend. And that'll depend purely on how good the movie itself turns out to be. And considering that this was pushed into production during the dawn of the strikes, I'm not fully confident. For Marvel's sake, I sincerely hope they've managed to sort out any potential issues during the second half of filming, as well as the recent reshoots. Because this will be their last truly appealing movie for a long time, and they need it to be good, as the goodwill that would generate would be direly needed to boost their about-to-be-remade Captain America 4 and risky Thunderbolts next year.