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@dudalb What made you so sure this was not going to go well?

Love his work on Rogue One too!

Really? Huh. Can't say I followed any of those close enough to know what their potential was compared to what they actually made at the box office. So even the Twilight and Hunger Games movies could have done more on a different date??

Random thought: I think what a lot of people like about Batman being so dark is the darkness finally gives a sense of stakes. The MCU is awesome, and sometimes downright addictive, but I don't feel any sense of weight or stakes outside maybe Infinity War and Endgame. But you watch something like Joker, these Batman trailers, or anything Gotham related really, and you feel like the problems there are REAL. It feels more real and weighty than a big intergalactic baddie or a super robot like Ultron. I don't know if anyone follows but I figured I'd give my 2 cents on the subject. It's not like we're all a bunch of manic-depressives who love doom and gloom. It's just nice to watch a superhero movie where you feel the weight of the hero's task.

We don't know that though.

Yeah, busy December huh? Sort or reminds me of December 2016 but even bigger! Rogue One on December 16. Sing, Passengers and Assassins Creed the following Wednesday. Fences and La La Land expanding on Sunday Christmas Day.

Yep, especially when they get the tone right. We got the cheesy, cartoony angle of Batman. We got Chris Nolan's version. With Joker we saw the box office potential of a very raw, borderline adult comic-like world of Gotham. I think audiences might be really ready for that.

I find the Chris Nolan trilogy is really, really good in and of itself. They were Christopher Nolan movies with Batman in them. But as Batman movies we may still be looking for THE definitive big screen adaptation. The Matt Reeves films (plural because I'm 99.99999% sure we'll be seeing more) could be it. Like ripping the comics off the page.

Box Office Mojo removed that feature so I have no clue what the adjusted figures would be now.

If we're including BvS, it's Bvs at $166 million. If not, then yes, TDKR ($160.9M).

Do you think Scream will move to January 7? The first weekend of January has been kind to horror films in the recent past to kick off the year. Or will it stay on Martin Luther King Jr. Day weekend?

So $166M is the biggest opening weekend for a Batman movie or a movie featuring Batman (Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice). The Batman O/U?

Yeah that was embarrassing by the media leading up to Joker. They were so desperately trying to create something potentially horrible out of nothing. I remember reading about guys who rented out whole theatres for themselves and some friends because they wanted to feel safe from incels. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

BRB going to go to sleep until March. Looks absolutely fantastic!

Hmm...opening wide against Eternals. Interesting.

??? Really? There's a huge successful history of tentpoles opening the week before Thanksgiving. November 16, 2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone November 15, 2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets November 18, 2005 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire November 21, 2008 Twilight November 20, 2009 The Twilight Saga: New Moon November 19, 2010 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 November 18, 2011 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 November 16, 2012 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 November 22, 2013 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire November 21, 2014 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 November 20, 2015 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 November 18, 2016 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them November 17, 2017 Justice League November 22, 2019 Frozen II ^ No opening weekend listed under Twilight's $67 million. 9 $100 million + weekends. Seems like a date that has actually worked pretty well. Maybe I'm misunderstanding....

- Indy 5 to Memorial Day weekend (May 27) - Black Adam can stay where it is (July 29) - The Marvels forward a week (November 4) - The Flash back to weeks (November 18) ^We've seen this setup work before, with a week between Marvel and WB tentpoles in 2016 (Doctor Strange and Fantastic Beasts) and 2017 (Thor: Ragnarok and Justice League) - Lastly, give Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom/Avatar at least 5 days of space. Keep Avatar 2 where it is (December 16) and move Aquaman 2 to Wednesday December 21. A good litmus test for this will be how Spider-Man and Matrix hold up in the same configuration this year.

I guess so. I'm not keen on The Flash and The Marvels being a week apart though. I feel like at the very least Flash should move to November 18 (same weekend as Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them,/Justice League) and The Marvels should move up a week to November 4 (same weekend as Doctor Strange/Thor: Ragnarok).

Have to think WB is going to do some rescheduling though. Like @Eric Atreides was saying it's kind of a mess right now.

They know that's their bread and butter haha.

Yeah nothing DC interests me except The Batman. If WB didn't screw up their DCEU it would be a different story. When it became clear they couldn't decide which direction they were going I totally clocked out.

If you find a way, can you let me know? I'm in Edmonton.

Yes please! Let's get back to theorizing just how high the OW for this can go!

Fantastic news!

WB pissed off a lot of people with the asinine hybrid thing, starting with Christopher Nolan. Good riddance. Hope they learned their lesson.