Val357

Yes, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever has been delayed to November 11, 2022.

As soon as @charlie Jatinder reported the Sunday number I knew this was going to happen.

This is a good point. Hopefully October is the first domino towards a deeper, more normal looking box office.

Yeesh. Avatar 2 was the last film I figured to move given the comical amount of times it's already moved haha. I would laugh if it was delayed yet another year.

I think it was a virtue signalling opportunity. Rooting against Joker was like rooting against incels. It's insulting that people think that any struggling mentally white man is bound to go commit violence and it was insulting that they thought Joker would ignite that.

Lol, what a cesspool.

The delay sucks for some of the other films but I will admit I hated that March 25 date since they announced it. I like May 6 a lot better. Just realized too with this shift everything is officially a year later. Doctor Strange WAS scheduled for May 7, 2021, Black Panther WAS scheduled for July 8, 2021, Thor for November 5, 2021 etc. etc. Makes sense with Eternals bowing a year after its initial date (November 6, 2020).

Yeah I don't know about everyone in the States but I've NEVER considered May a summer month. Ever. Summer for me has always been June, July, August. My kids, and myself when I was in school, always get off school in June and go back the day after Labour Day. The idea that the first weekend of May kicks off the summer movie calendar is odd to me.

Nailed it. The lack of depth is exactly what has me thinking the box office has sooooo much further to go to truly be back.

WB is seriously starting to lose their edge when it comes to trailers.

Honestly, I don't think any of us here can speak for ANYONE (well, except @Plain Old Tele I guess). For all we know the deal IS good and we're dealing with a group of malcontents on social media. None of us know. Porthos had the best advice which is to wait until we know the details. And even then, who are WE to say if it's good or not.

Great point about managing expectations. I work with people so that's something I do know a thing or two about and I know that management 101 is levelling with your workers all the time - especially in labour disputes like this - and not letting them get too far with their own preconceived notions. That's when you potentially lose them because they develop their own expectations. So yes, communication and management is key here in the process, especially if you want to maintain the optics that you've always been in the workers' corner.

I don't know a damn thing about the business so I'm trying to do more listening and less talking but my 2 cents is you can hardly blame anyone for being paranoid given the level of corruption all over these days. The news is full of it in all sectors it seems. Again, I don't know a thing so I'm not trying to argue that there is any selling out going on. I just don't blame people for being paranoid if they're looking at the deal and it's a long way off what was promised (again, I don't have a clue what was promised, just talking in a very general sense).

Soooo where are we at right now in terms of likelihood of a $100M + opening weekend for this, based on presales?

Well, it's not like unions screwing over their workers is unheard of.

I don't think Villaneuve will stand for day and date streaming any more than Nolan did. He's pissed too. The Rock will go along with it. He's just a businessman, not an artist. Chalamet is a Gen Z actor so he too will go along with whatever is trending. Not sure about Reeves. Hopefully he defends the theatrical experience.

I wish I could! Hopefully it's not long before I can rent it on demand! It looks amazing, regardless of the tough subject matter. I simply adore historical epics!

Nevermind. It's not important.

Though I don't blame him for being done with Fox by any means.

Nooooooo! Apple? Yuck.

What does this even mean lol?

I like this. This is the way.

"Lowest attended" really puts it in perspective though. I mean, this is Craig's swan song, the man who headlined the most financially successful set of Bond films ever. It's not horrible but this should have done better.

Bond 2nd weekend drops No Time to Die -56% Spectre -52.2% Skyfall -53.5% Quantum of Solace -60.4% Casino Royale -24.6% (Thanksgiving weekend so an obvious outlier) Die Another Day -34.1% (same as above) More or less in line with the others. Not as bad as the dreadful Quantum of Solace, which makes sense.

Interesting. So this means only one wide release on the November 12 weekend: Clifford (opening Wednesday the 10th). I'm surprised one of the many October releases didn't get moved there for breathing room. Eternals is going to feast in November.