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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
Rageofthegods replied to Shawn Robbins's topic in Box Office Discussion
*banging table* TWO. 10M+. PREVIEWS. TWO. 10M+. PREVIEWS. -
Zaslav has had some good ideas in his run (he's basically left HBO alone, I don't think he's diluted the brand, plus he's a fan of theatrical) but overall I agree with @Cmasterclay that he's just not been a very good CEO. Unsettling the creative community with the Batgirl cuts without giving anyone a phone call, foisting an albatross on De Luca with the De Niro mobster movie to impress his Hamptons friends, hyping up the Flash to unrealistic levels so that "pretty good" reviews ended up disappointing, riding CNN down to historic lows in ratings and relevance through an ill-conceived pivot-to-the-middle, these were all completely unforced errors that ended up damaging some key part of their business, to say nothing of the times when him or his team just embarrasses the company (e.g. Max "creator" credits). And while I didn't love the name HBO Max, I'm really not convinced of the logic of making another confusing rebrand just a few years after launch. It's not great that after a week, only 70% of people signed up. He's a financial wizard but he's not a content or branding or vision guy. His brightest idea is, what, a ten year reboot of Harry Potter? And when WBD is finally sold for scraps to another company, the best we can hope for is that he'll take his big sack of cash and ride off into the sunset.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Rageofthegods replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
They're doing an insane $50 experience thing this weekend in NY and LA. They're selling really well too. Dunno about 1m but it's gonna have a high PTA for sure. -
The Disney Thread | Iger will be with us until 2026
Rageofthegods replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in Box Office Discussion
https://deadline.com/2023/06/bambi-live-action-movie-disney-sarah-polley-director-1235415991/ -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Rageofthegods replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
7% sold already! -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Rageofthegods replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
You're thinking too small. 100m for both! -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Rageofthegods replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
The three hour biopic opening on-par or above Dunkirk would be pretty fantastic. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Rageofthegods replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
Yup, it's from the Louisiana tax credit certification website. Since it's set in New Orleans, net budget is around 26m, around what Evil Dead Rise cost. -
That's just domestic. Worldwide it made 233m. 233m ww on a 100m budget is just a hair below profitable, and I'm sure with RDJ, Damon, Blunt and Nolan, the international totals will be higher. That's where his movies usually make the bulk of their money - no Nolan movie has made over 200m domestic since TDKR, but his movies do crazy well in places like Europe and China. 125m domestic, as someone suggested earlier, would be a pretty good number for this assuming it has a typical OS-Dom split for a Nolan movie.
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Not disagreeing but that seems to have been Universal's thinking. From this article: "While Universal is developing a handful of high-profile monster pics including Wolfman starring Ryan Gosling and a Van Helsing pic with James Wan producing, the studio has been high on this project since getting the first draft. While the character isn’t the flashiest among its other monster IPs, insiders say the story’s mix of humor and action was something the studios was looking to have more of because so many of the other properties have a more horror element to them like Universal’s box office hit The Invisible Man."
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Doesn't have to be either/or. Their strategy wasn't that they'll only make Invisible Man from here on out, it's just that they'll take pitches from anyone and let the filmmaker/producer do what they want if they like the pitch. Right now, they're developing a bigger budget Van Helsing movie with the Overlord director as well. The nice thing about that approach is they can theoretically do both Blumhouse movies and a bigger budget movie like this. If this movie bombs, the lesson might be that they misjudged the audience; instead of audiences seeing it as an action-comedy with horror elements, they probably see a wacky horror-comedy with some action bits sprinkled in, and that has a fundamentally lower ceiling. The budget makes sense if you see it as Universal trying to launch a medium-scale action-comedy franchise a la Kingsman.
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From the initial announcements it sounds like they were hoping for this to be a Kingsman-ish small-scale action franchise for them rather than a horror movie, hence the elevated budget. Not sure if they'll get there - I don't think it opens to 10m but it seems to have missed its shot at a huge breakout opening - but that was seemingly the hope. Universal Monster movies are also weirdly big overseas (Drac Untold made 150m internationally!) So that was probably also part of it.