HummingLemon496
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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
HummingLemon496 replied to Shawn Robbins's topic in Box Office Discussion
Saw these two letters and got so excited for a second . . . -
2024 Box Office Predictions and Discussion
HummingLemon496 replied to kayumanggi's topic in Box Office Discussion
Would be around 1.33 WW with the same DOM/OS as the first film But, yeah, as an avid Disney supporter I really hope this happens. And you have an amazing track record because you correctly predicted Mario/Barbie blowing up as well, so I am confident in this coming true. -
Yup
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Hey, at least The Flash wasn't even the first time a $200M budget, post-pandemic movie about time travel released on father's day weekend with a villain who is an alternate version of the main character lost $100M+ /s
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But what matters is the overall marketing budget. $120M is less than what a $200M budget DCEU film would usually get. Aquaman 1, for example, was $148M. I think most people expected the marketing to be higher which is why it's just a $155M loss rather than the $200M+ many people projected This movie had a very normal marketing campaign, not a super hardcore one like most people though. Telling celebrities to say the movie is good isn't even a water drop in the overall marketing budget. WB was NOT delusional with this movie.
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God. Fucking. Damn $328M profit from a $100M budget film is absolutely bonkers It made around $100M more profit than I was expecting. . .
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most disappointing performances for a sequel?
HummingLemon496 replied to John Marston's topic in Classic Box Office Runs
You're not wrong. The movie earned an A- CinemaScore, which is kinda meh for an animated film. If it was received closer to the first one (A+), it absolutely could've done the numbers you're proposing. -
Yeah that's fair I do kind of regret bumping this thread and starting an argument 🤣
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Brie Larson as Captain Marvel is in the biggest hit and biggest bomb ever, epic
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Because this guy is trying to prove a ridiculous point. "It had bad legs so therefore it didn't have hype" uhhh that's not how it works.
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Oh nice, I see you reacted with the laugh emoji. Hype/interest and WOM/legs are two separate things. A movie can have massive hype and bad legs, and a movie can also have very little hype and fantastic legs. Quantumania had a big OW but bad legs because it had a lot of hype and interest (despite what people like to say Kang absolutely was a good hook for the GA, as evidenced by fantastic early presales which meant it could've opened to 140M+ if it was well recieved) but it had bad WOM which is why it crashed.
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Why are you spinning what I said? I literally said "it shows the movie has hype and interest." The movies having bad word of mouth and bad legs doesn't mean they didn't have hype and interest. Like BVS had bad legs, but that doesn't mean the movie didn't have a shit ton of hype.
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It shows the movies have hype and interest.
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Sorry if I was coming off as too toxic. I'm a Marvel fan and I do not want this movie to bomb but after what happened to The Marvels, I don't have any hope.
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A franchise where 6 of the last 7 entires opened to $100M+ is definitely not dead. That I will absolutely agree with you on. NWH to GOTG 3 is a streak of 6 $100M openers, literally longer than anything in the Infinity Saga and the longest streak in Hollywood history. This record will probably not ever be defeated.
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What's crazy is that Captain Marvel made $414M profit so the Captain Marvel franchise is still on $177M profit overall. But imo attributing ALL of the difference between Captain Marvel and The Marvels to Endgame is pretty silly and disingenuous. Even if it wasn't tied in to Endgame -- let's say it released in July 2016 -- it still probably would've done a solid $600-700M worldwide. Like, there's no way it would've done just $200 million worldwide, c'mon now!
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Another movie about a character most people don't care about tied into Disney+ shows, and it barely cracked 200M globally. The MCU is now on the same level as the DCEU where there is no floor.
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I would be shocked by $400M tbh.
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Reception affects it a lot but Cap 4, right now seems like a 50/130/300 type run. Basically, for every 4 tickets Civil War sold, Brave New World will only sell 1 (domestically).
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I believe Deadline
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The MCU has the biggest hit and biggest bomb of all time now, HOLY FUCK!!!
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Avengers: Endgame - $890M profit The Marvels - $237M loss And just like that, the MCU has the most profitable and least profitable film on Deadline's list Holy. Fucking. Shit
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So the promotion for The Flash was only $120M? Usually $200M budget films have marketing in the $150M range. Good news for me because we can stop this "The Flash was the most heavily promoted movie ever and WB was delusional for putting all eggs in this film" narrative.
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Spider-Verse is locked for $200M+ profit it seems. Crazy. The last time a Spider-Man movie got below 90% on RT was TASM 2.
