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  1. 1 minute ago, CJohn said:

    We are more than 1 year away. There is not bet to take. In fact, my post makes it pretty clear what must happen for me to think it has a shot at that. And one part of it involves WOM which we will only know more about after the OW.

     

    I just don't buy a bad BvS will make the other ancillary movies in this franchise somehow immune to a negative impact. Seems pretty straight forward the more people this turns off after an already mixed MOS means more will be cautious to SS & WW.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

     

    No, of course not. But assuming it gets upwards of 170m on OW -- which is an assumption, but not a huge reach -- even pretty shitty legs get it to a fairly impressive total. Maybe not as impressive as if it had gotten a good reception, but money is money.

     

    They are trying to start a multi year universe, this thing will be scrutinized like no other regardless how much over the profit line on this single film. Perception will matter so much.

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  3. The people who do not understand the power reviews have in the 21st century seem to not get how the world works in said century. Look at how crazy people can get over them period, some more emotional than the movies themselves. There are certain films less affected than others for various timeframes but there are very few staples (if any) that can have great legs on a bad RT score. The correlation exists no matter how some will tell you "reviews don't matter at all."

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Baumer said:

    My point is simple Lordman....this is a fanboy driven film just like Potter is and just like Twilight is and just like Transformers is and just like SW and Hunger Games and LOTR and so on.  Critics don't matter much to these films.  

     

    It absolutely matters to WOM & legs, I didn't know we evaluate just OW as the only thing that matters these days. 

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  5. 1 minute ago, a2knet said:

    If Sony was gonna fudge it so badly that it's easily noticeable, why not push it to 200m this weekend itself? They could have just made this weekend's PTA 12x of last weekend and be done with it.

    Watch what happens the weekend after this hits $200m, it will virtually disappear from theaters remaining and the charts. It's easily noticeable to us because we dig into the numbers and know what to expect, not most.

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  6. 2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

     

    Rth mentioned that a 200M movie gets more from tv rights compared to a 199M movie. Similar to a 100M vs 99M movie. Must have something to do with negotiated slab rates or something.

     

    We got to get a thread and some solid research on this. Seems like a pretty fascinating concept honestly. It's certainly not to appease BO enthusiasts that's for sure ;).

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  7. 7 minutes ago, grim22 said:

    Well, there was no way Sony was letting SPECTRE be the only movie in history ending between 199-200M. They screwed up the expansion strategy and now have to fudge it over the milestone. It got close enough without any fudging that not pushing it would have been unprecedented.

     

    No one has proven these round milestones mean anything in blu ray sales, tv rights fees, etc. My guess is it's all bonuses for executives and/or the studios in general. Otherwise it's a laughable waste of money to get it over the line.

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  8. 14 minutes ago, Kung Fu Panda Tree said:

    What makes you guys so sure they are fudging numbers? There are plenty of very small theatres, especially ones in small towns, that get movies many months after they release, but can still pack out their showings because for their audience, it is only just opening. This is particularly true for older audiences (and Bond is a popular film for them)

     

    It's already out on blu ray, use common sense here. No one is going to see it outside of free or heavily discounted tickets.

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  9. 40 minutes ago, Frozen said:

    Spectre made $47,000 from 16 theatres this weekend, up 58% from last weekend when it had 63 theatres. I guess $200,000,000 happens next weekend. They only now about $46,000. 

    They aren't even trying to hide the fudge, it's almost embarrassing. We all know there is a 0% chance even a few thousand $ worth were sold let alone $47k.

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