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COMPUTER ANIMATED FILMS thread | SOUL (Jan 12), TURNING RED (Feb 09), and LUCA (Mar 22) return to theaters in 2024

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I don't misunderstand the idea (at least I don't think I do...).I'm saying Snow White released today would not have the same admissions it did back in 1937 and therefore break the all-time mark of Avatar and score 800M domestic. -- or re-explain the process to logically conclude it would? :blink:

You still misunderstand it. Nobody says Snow White today would make 400 mio USD or whatsoever.But in 1940 a movie ticket was something like 25 cents, and if you were a "millionaire" back then you belonged to the super-rich. Average YEARLY income back then was... 1750 dollars and a gallon of gas was 11 cents. There is something called inflation out there.We adjust for ticket prices because that's the only way to get a clear picture regarding admissions of a specific movie. Not more, not less.
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You still misunderstand it. Nobody says Snow White today would make 400 mio USD or whatsoever.But in 1940 a movie ticket was something like 25 cents, and if you were a "millionaire" back then you belonged to the super-rich. Average YEARLY income back then was... 1750 dollars and a gallon of gas was 11 cents. There is something called inflation out there.We adjust for ticket prices because that's the only way to get a clear picture regarding admissions of a specific movie. Not more, not less.

The context I was replying to was that someone posted adjusted numbers suggesting that animated movies don't actually make very much money these days, because if you adjust animated movies from 70 years ago, we're hardly putting a dent in them. I replied that as much as inflation boosts how much a BO gross will be, there's also many factors that decrease admissions, thus inevitably movies INCREASE over time via adjustments for ticket price inflation and never the other way around.You even reverse-adjusted Spiderman 1 to a 17million box office run?http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7LjVCj50Y Edited by Misadventures2x3
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You even reverse-adjusted Spiderman 1 to a 17million box office run?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? Because in 1940 or so 17 mio USD was an amazing amount of money. You could have produced a super-blockbuster like GONE WITH THE WIND four times with that money. Edited by pinocchio
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Yes. Do you have a problem with that? Because in 1940 or so 17 mio USD was an amazing amount of money. You could have produced a super-blockbuster like GONE WITH THE WIND four times with that money.

Again, I think you're misunderstanding my point. Spiderman would have sold more tickets back then by nature of there not being home video, DVD, online streaming, etc like there is today. There's probably an actually good formula out there for adjusting movies of the past up to today, but it's not as simple as multiplying their ticket prices upward. To start, possibly a "relative to other box office grosses of its current time" as a %, or some formula adding DVD/rental/demand sales within the first year to a films BO gross.
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Again, I think you're misunderstanding my point. Spiderman would have sold more tickets back then by nature of there not being home video, DVD, online streaming, etc like there is today...

Spiderman back then would not have sold any tickets at all because the comic book didn't exist. Look, you don't get the whole thing at all so let's just forget it. ;)
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Yeah... I've given up on repeating this though. It's really the major studios' fault for marketing animated movies to be kiddie fare for so long. I'm really curious about what artists can do if they weren't restricted to making only G to PG rated fare for animated movies. Doubt we'll ever see that from the big players.

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Spiderman back then would not have sold any tickets at all because the comic book didn't exist. Look, you don't get the whole thing at all so let's just forget it. ;)

Yes. My favorite. Offer thoughts and argumentation, only to have nothing in response to anything I wrote.
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I replied that as much as inflation boosts how much a BO gross will be, there's also many factors that decrease admissions, thus inevitably movies INCREASE over time via adjustments for ticket price inflation and never the other way around.

No, older movies don't increase over time if you adjust them. Not in tickets sold. And that's all what matters.
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Most people on here don't seem interested in movies outside the top tier studios, but...

http://kidscreen.com/2011/10/19/jane-startz-brings-childrens-novels-to-the-big-screen/

"Oscar-nominated screenwriter David Magee (Finding Neverland, The Life of Pi) has written the feature adaptation to Tiger’s Apprentice, the first book in a trilogy that follows the adventures of Asian-American teenager Tom Lee. "

"Meanwhile, David Berenbaum (Elf, The Spiderwick Chronicles, The Haunted Mansion) has written the screenplay for Fergus Crane, which chronicles a poor 10-year old boy whose explorer father has mysteriously disappeared."

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Some thoughts:- I still think MU is "un-necessary" while TI2 is waiting on the drawingboard.- A Pixar movie named "Pixels" would be cool-sounding.- What happened to the Elephant movie from Dreamworks?- Could Newt reborn in another form?- If we take off humans and animals, we have what....only cars?

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Some thoughts:- I still think MU is "un-necessary" while TI2 is waiting on the drawingboard.- A Pixar movie named "Pixels" would be cool-sounding.- What happened to the Elephant movie from Dreamworks?- Could Newt reborn in another form?- If we take off humans and animals, we have what....only cars?

What elephant movie?
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What elephant movie?

He probably means from digital domain -- Legend of Trembo.http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/aug/11/digital-domains-tradition-studios-announces-film/

Still humans in ToyStory movies.You're right about robots.What about a movie with- flowers/plant/vegetal only characters?- germs- letters and numbers

- vege-tales?- ozmosis jones?and the letters and numbers, you got me. A scrabble-movie adaptation?
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