Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I hope Brazil will be the biggest market for TE3 behind China and the US. It's likely but let's be cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 UNITED STATES / CANADA 3D BOX OFFICE REVENUES 2008 : $0.2B 2009 : $1.1B 2010 : $2.2B 2011 : $1.8B 2012 : $1.8B 2013 : $1.8B The 3D Box Office got a glorious year in 2010, the after-effect of Avatar, but after that it was stagnation, and a decreasing share of the BO as a whole. In the developed world (North America, Europe, Japan) 3D is increasingly rejected, it was a short fad. However 3D is still growing in Latin America, Russia and Asia. I thought 3D was going to drop hard after 2011... here in Spain some theatres don't charge more for a 3D movie... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I thought 3D was going to drop hard after 2011... here in Spain some theatres don't charge more for a 3D movie... More 3D screens and better 3D in movies is probably helping. Here they charge an additional €2 for 3D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 More 3D screens and better 3D in movies is probably helping.Here they charge an additional €2 for 3D.€2!!! That's a lot!!!! How much costs a normal ticket there? Here in Barcelona aroud €8.5-€9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 €2!!! That's a lot!!!! How much costs a normal ticket there? Here in Barcelona aroud €8.5-€9 €8 €10 for 3D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 €8€10 for 3DMore or less the same. I thought France was more expensive than Spain... well, maybe it's just ParisBack to the thread, next Thursday Lucy and Into The Storm open in Brazil. Which movie do you think will win? I am surprised to see Into the Storm beating Lucy in Peru and Chile. I am planning to see Lucy tomorrow, it's going to rule here in Spain this weekend, a lot of people I talked want to see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 More or less the same. I thought France was more expensive than Spain... well, maybe it's just ParisBack to the thread, next Thursday Lucy and Into The Storm open in Brazil. Which movie do you think will win? I am surprised to see Into the Storm beating Lucy in Peru and Chile. I am planning to see Lucy tomorrow, it's going to rule here in Spain this weekend, a lot of people I talked want to see it. It is. In this moment I live in a remote, rural area in France at my parents' home, and we have a small town (50,000 inhabitants) with a big cinema but it's almost the only one in the area, given the standard of living and salaries are not the same than in France's bigger cities and even Paris our prices are relatively affordable. When I'm a student in the city of Reims (180,000 inhabitants) it's around €10 for 2D movies I don't want to know how it is in Paris ^^" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Back to the thread, next Thursday Lucy and Into The Storm open in Brazil. Which movie do you think will win? I am surprised to see Into the Storm beating Lucy in Peru and Chile. I am planning to see Lucy tomorrow, it's going to rule here in Spain this weekend, a lot of people I talked want to see it. I would bet on Lucy, superheroes movies are more successful in Brazil than in South America overall, they clearly like this kind of stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It is.In this moment I live in a remote, rural area in France at my parents' home, and we have a small town (50,000 inhabitants) with a big cinema but it's almost the only one in the area, given the standard of living and salaries are not the same than in France's bigger cities and even Paris our prices are relatively affordable.When I'm a student in the city of Reims (180,000 inhabitants) it's around €10 for 2D movies I don't want to know how it is in Paris ^^"I would love to live in a small village surrounded by nature!!! I will in the future!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) I would love to live in a small village surrounded by nature!!! I will in the future!!! I spend most of my time in a city to study but when I come back here I'm glad, with this calm, nature, animals (sheep, ducks, cows), forests, it's invigorating I couldn't live in a big city, just temporarily because it's fun to discover a new place but not beyond 2 years. Edited August 23, 2014 by Fullbuster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) 3D also dropped in South Korea. For example, even with competition cutting out its legs, HTTYD2 gross will ONLY end up behind HTTYD1's because of drastically reduced 3D business. It beats it in admissions handily, but most of those admissions were for 2D. (And if HTTYD2 had the amount of domestic 3D sales that HTTYD1 did, it'd probably have ended up with a total closer The Croods' $187M...)I'd love to see some Dragon 1 vs. Dragon 2 comparisons for other countries that have both gross and admissions data for both movies - in the HTTYD2 OS thread, of course. Edited August 23, 2014 by TServo2049 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 3D also dropped in South Korea. For example, even with competition cutting out its legs, HTTYD2 gross will ONLY end up behind HTTYD1's because of drastically reduced 3D business. It beats it in admissions handily, but most of those admissions were for 2D. (And if HTTYD2 had the amount of domestic 3D sales that HTTYD1 did, it'd probably have ended up with a total closer The Croods' $187M...)I'd love to see some Dragon 1 vs. Dragon 2 comparisons for other countries that have both gross and admissions data for both movies - in the HTTYD2 OS thread, of course.Sad for Dragon 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Sad for Dragon 2.The gross difference isn't really THAT bad - last weekend it was up to $22.6M (not sure how much it gained this Mon-Fri) down from $25.1m, while admissions are up from 2,603,857 to (currently) 2,965,790. That's almost a 14% admissions increase - would be more like $28.6M?I'm continuing this in Dragon 2's OS thread. Edited August 23, 2014 by TServo2049 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 The gross difference isn't really THAT bad - last weekend it was up to $22.6M (not sure how much it gained this Mon-Fri) down from $25.1m, while admissions are up from 2,603,857 to (currently) 2,965,790. That's almost a 14% admissions increase - would be more like $28.6M?I'm continuing this in Dragon 2's OS thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Movies gross in Latin America as a single market (NEW ELEMENTS) The Expendables Latin America : 12.4m Brazil : 4.7m Brazil's share : 37.9% The Expendables 2 Latin America : 30.7m Brazil : 16.4m Brazil's share : 53.4% Rise of the Planet of the Apes Latin America : 35.6m Brazil : 14.6m Brazil's share : 41% Fast & Furious 6 Latin America : 101.3m Brazil : 23m Brazil's share : 22.7% F&F7 will be big next year The Expendables 3 should beat TE2 quite easily, it's not a big number after all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Movies gross in Latin America as a single market (COMPLETE LIST, UPDATED) I thought it would be interesting to know how big Latin America would be if it was a single market.So I added every Latin American countries' gross. Brazil being the biggest LA market I think it's fitting,and I will show what is the share of Brazil in all this Latin American population : 603 million Brazilian population : 201 million Brazil's share : 33.3% The Avengers Latin America : 192.6m Brazil : 63.9m Brazil's share : 33.1% Despicable Me 2 Latin America : 190.6m Brazil : 35.5m Brazil's share : 18.6%Ice Age 4 Latin America : 179.4m Brazil : 44.5m Brazil's share : 25%Avatar Latin America : 161.4m Brazil : 58.2m Brazil's share : 36%Iron Man 3 Latin America : 152m Brazil : 47.9m Brazil's share : 31.5% Titanic Latin America : 147.7m Brazil : 70.5m Brazil's share : 47.7%Toy Story 3 Latin America : 134.1m Brazil : 24.9m Brazil's share : 18.6% Ice Age 3 Latin America : 130.5m Brazil : 45.4m Brazil's share : 34.8% Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2 Latin America : 120.3m Brazil : 54.2m Brazil's share : 45% Monsters University Latin America : 112m Brazil : 16.5m Brazil's share : 14.7% Shrek Forever After Latin America : 108.9m Brazil : 40m Brazil's share : 36.7%Harry Potter DH2 Latin America : 108.1m Brazil : 35.7m Brazil's share : 33% Fast & Furious 6 Latin America : 101.3m Brazil : 23m Brazil's share : 22.7% Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Latin America : 97.5m Brazil : 30.4m Brazil's share : 31.2% The Smurfs Latin America : 97.4m Brazil : 32.8m Brazil's share : 33.7% The Dark Knight Rises Latin America : 97.3m Brazil : 27.1m Brazil's share : 27.8% Frozen Latin America : 90.3m Brazil : 21.7m Brazil's share : 24%The Amazing Spiderman Latin America : 89m Brazil : 30.4m Brazil's share : 34% Alice in Wonderland 2010 Latin America : 87.4m Brazil : 28.4m Brazil's share : 32.5% X-Men Days of Future Past Latin America : 84.6m Brazil : 28.8m Brazil's share : 34% Thor 2 Latin America : 84.1m Brazil : 27.8m Brazil's share : 33% Spiderman 3 Latin America : 83.1m Brazil : 24.2m Brazil's share : 29%Captain America 2 Latin America : 82.5m Brazil : 28.3m Brazil's share : 34.3%Transformers 3 Latin America : 81.7m Brazil : 22.3m Brazil's share : 27% The Amazing Spiderman 2 Latin America : 79.9m Brazil : 24.9m Brazil's share : 31.2% Puss in Boots Latin America : 75.8m Brazil : 24.5m Brazil's share : 32.3% Tangled Latin America : 75.6m Brazil : 24.3m Brazil's share : 32.1% Brave Latin America : 74m Brazil : 16.7m Brazil's share : 22.6% Twilight BD1 Latin America : 73.5m Brazil : 32.7m Brazil's share : 44.5% Cars 2 Latin America : 73m Brazil : 16.5m Brazil's share : 22.6% Twilight Eclipse Latin America : 68.6m Brazil : 30.5m Brazil's share : 44.5% Noah Latin America : 68.3m Brazil : 30.6m Brazil's share : 44.8% Wreck-It Ralph Latin America : 66.2m Brazil : 21.4m Brazil's share : 32.3% World War Z Latin America : 64.5m Brazil : 14.7m Brazil's share : 22.8% Twilight New Moon Latin America : 63.3m Brazil : 30.6m Brazil's share : 48.3% The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey Latin America : 62.9m Brazil : 18.1m Brazil's share : 28.8% Man of Steel Latin America : 60.3m Brazil : 16m Brazil's share : 26.5% Life of Pi Latin America : 58.5m Brazil : 14.7m Brazil's share : 25.1% Pirates of the Caribbean 3 Latin America : 58.2m Brazil : 15.8m Brazil's share : 27% The Hobbit : The Desolation of Smaug Latin America : 57.8m Brazil : 17.8m Brazil's share : 30.8%The Hunger Games Catching Fire Latin America : 55.7m Brazil : 17.3m Brazil's share : 31% The Smurfs 2 Latin America : 52.5m Brazil : 14.5m Brazil's share : 27.6% The Wolverine Latin America : 51m Brazil : 21.4m Brazil's share : 42% 300 Rise of an Empire Latin America : 50.7m Brazil : 17.4m Brazil's share : 34.3% Oz the Great and Powerful Latin America : 47.5m Brazil : 12.6m Brazil's share : 26.1% Despicable Me Latin America : 46m Brazil : 13.7m Brazil's share : 29.8% Iron Man 2 Latin America : 44.9m Brazil : 15.8m Brazil's share : 35.2% Thor Latin America : 44.1m Brazil : 12.1m Brazil's share : 27.4% The Hangover Part 2 Latin America : 39.3m Brazil : 16.9m Brazil's share : 43% Pacific Rim Latin America : 37.1m Brazil : 6.3m Brazil's share : 17% Skyfall Latin America : 36.8m Brazil : 14.6m Brazil's share : 39.7% How To Train Your Dragon Latin America : 36.4m Brazil : 11.4m Brazil's share : 31.1% The Hangover Part 3 Latin America : 35.9m Brazil : 16.3m Brazil's share : 45.4% Rise of the Planet of the Apes Latin America : 35.6m Brazil : 14.6m Brazil's share : 41% Ted Latin America : 35.5m Brazil : 8.8m Brazil's share : 24.8% 300 Latin America : 32.9m Brazil : 11.2m Brazil's share : 34% The Hunger Games Latin America : 32.8m Brazil : 10.1m Brazil's share : 30.8% The Expendables 2 Latin America : 30.7m Brazil : 16.4m Brazil's share : 53.4% Twilight Latin America : 26.1m Brazil : 6.7m Brazil's share : 25.7% Cars Latin America : 25.6m Brazil : 8.2m Brazil's share : 32% American Reunion Latin America : 24.5m Brazil : 7.6m Brazil's share : 31% Bolt (2008, Disney) Latin America : 24.4m Brazil : 4.6m Brazil's share : 18.9% Django Unchained Latin America : 15.1m Brazil : 7m Brazil's share : 46.3% The Expendables Latin America : 12.4m Brazil : 4.7m Brazil's share : 37.9% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 NUMBER OF SCREENS BY REGION USA / Canada => 42,814 Europe + Middle East + Africa => 39,874 Asia Pacific => 41,206 Latin America => 10,694 Latin America has still a lot of room to grow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Tomorrow first numbers for The Expendables 3, at last! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 THE 20 BIGGEST OS MARKETS 1. China $3.6B 2. Japan $2.4B 3. United Kingdom $1.7B 4. France $1.6B 5. India $1.5B 6. South Korea $1.4B 7. Russia $1.4B 8. Germany $1.3B 9. Australia $1.1B 10. Mexico $0.9B 11. Brazil $0.9B 12. Italy $0.8B 13. Spain $0.7B 14. Argentina $0.4B 15. Netherlands $0.3B 16. Turkey $0.3B 17. Taiwan $0.3B 18. Sweden $0.2B 19. Switzerland $0.2B 20. Malaysia $0.2B Interesting top don't you think? Thanks to Screen Digest we have some insight, and these numbers match Henry's ones What can we expect in the next few years? -Well, Mexico and Brazil will pass Australia and Germany.Mexico seems to have a faster growth than Brazil as a market, which reflects the economic health of those countries with a slow-growing Brazil and a dynamic Mexican, it's interesting to see Mexico is a bit ahead in size given their population : 118m in Mexico and 201m in Brazil...However that doesn't mean Brazil won't grow : with a growth around 10% a year it's a healthy and promising market, enough to pass France, UK and Russia on the long run. -Russia is a different animal : the market growth clearly slowed this year in dollars, that could reflect its stagnant economy, and a recession is likely with already ominous stats : fall of 23% of car sales in July 2014 over July 2013 for example.And demographics are not helping at all. Let's hope it will be able to grow in the near future, there is potential to compete with France and the UK at a minimum. -Switzerland, Sweden and Taiwan will probably get out this top in a few years, giving way to rising and promising markets such as Indonesia, Colombia and Venezuela. -Turkey is a pretty unknown market, we don't know much about it, but it could be able to pass Spain and Italy in a few years, at some point it will become a sizable market. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Don't hesitate : Comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...