Weekend Thread (11/17-19) | Early Deadline #s - Songbirds 5.75-6M Previews, Trolls 2M

[ClarkZuckerberg]

6 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

 

The word-of-mouth is glowing on this one. This kind of feel-good heart warming crowd-please would easily got 50m-60m. Too bad they didn't poll cinemascore for this one. I wonder if it is A+.  

92% verified RT. Don’t see how that would be an A+ CinemaScore.

[PlatnumRoyce]

3 hours ago, Torontofan said:

Captain Marvel had the best movie tie In Movie History.

 

The ending of Infinity War had the biggest plot Twist for a major blockbuster in a generation. 

Everyone was wondering what will happen next and Captain Marvel was seen as key to what happens next.

 

and the ending tease of CM is literally half of the Avengers huddled around Captain Marvel's beeper. 

 

1 hour ago, Halberstram said:

Nope, they most definitely had an rough outline of what they wanted by 2011. Infinity stones have been littered throughout their movies since the first Captain America. Too bad they expended most of their highest quality comicbook storylines and have yet to show the capability of creating interesting and fresh storylines by themselves. 

"The Cosmic Cube" is not an "Infinity Gem." That's a retcon (as seen by the physical destruction of the cube in Infinity War). It's very easy to find ~2010 era sources vouching for this. Fiege and co did a great job selling the retcon but it's a retcon. Everyone agrees Marvel had no plans for Thanos prior to Avengers (see the Infinity Gauntlet in Thor 1's trophy case).

 

[Halberstram]

Thor 1 -> Tesseract (Teleportation infinity stone) -> Captain America 1 -> Avengers 1 -> Purple Thanos giving you the shagrin  

Edited November 21, 2023 by Halberstram

[Jean Claude Web Madam]

41 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

Everyone agrees Marvel had no plans for Thanos prior to Avengers

 

He's the biggest villain they had the rights to. If they had any plan for Avengers sequels, then it included him.

 

Let's not also forget that the first major Thanos plotline in the comics involved the cosmic cube, not the infinity gems.

[PlatnumRoyce]

2 hours ago, Jean Claude Web Madam said:

 

He's the biggest villain they had the rights to. If they had any plan for Avengers sequels, then it included him.

 

Let's not also forget that the first major Thanos plotline in the comics involved the cosmic cube, not the infinity gems.

Sure, but we have multiple people directly saying "they didn't plan out Avengers sequels" before they pulled off their first big "Saga" - Phase 1. It's not that you couldn't have created dangling plot threads in 2009 for sequels, it's simply that marvel just didn't do that.

 

We know exactly why the cosmic cube was chosen - to solve a couple of nagging phase 1 problems including of how to get Captain America to modern day, connected to the Avengers, and shift Cap1 from a WW2 story to fantastical comic book stuff (which also meant no guns and technically not nazi villains). It just wasn't created for Thanos.

 

Basically, Whedon threw in "Loki got his army from Thanos" to explain how Loki got his army and execs let him do that but really didn't but any focus on that. I'm sure someone had some meeting but everyone seems to agree there's no causal story there pre-Avengers 1.

 

Remember, in a world where the Avengers isn't a super-mega hit, you'd still have Marvel into production on sequels to initial films + Ant-Man and possibly some other films. Setting up a second level big bad just wasn't the most important thing at that time. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by PlatnumRoyce