China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[A Marvel Fanboy]

58921.com is an amateur site published by box office enthusiast, similar to http://tbzs.sinaapp.com/wp.php.

 

At the moment, for us outsiders, I would say Entgroup is the most reliable/accessible source for China box office numbers, though occasionally their numbers could be a few millions off, if they forget to capture the lastest updates from the system of the Office of China Film Business Special Development Funds Administration Commission (国家电影事业发展专项资金管理委员会办公室), or the Office of Special Funds (专资办) in short, as we usually call. There is not a website, but here is the SARFT's official introuduction page on this Office: http://www.sarft.gov.cn/articles/2009/03/18/20090318155829700394.html

 

Briefly speaking, supervised by the Film Bureau and SARFT (now SAPPRFT), the Office of Special Funds / OSF is China's sole authorized agency that do the work of cinema box office ticketing. In US/CA, as we all know, the role is played by private corporation Rentrak, while in South Korea, it is KoreanFilmCouncil, etc .... Apart from that, the Office of Special Funds also collect 5%-worth money from all tickets sold, hence the title, to support the development of local film production and exhibtion industry. All theaters in China use OSF's software selling movie tickets and theoretically are ought to report numbers into the system on a daily basis.

 

CFGC and foreign, and local, studios share box office revenues based on OSF numbers. SARFT and their publication China Film Report (中国电影报, WEIBO）or DEA (China Film Distribution and Exhibition Association) may have higher numbers but those numbers literally has no legal validity (to studios). (58921 may have collected numbers published by CFR I assume )

 

Entgroup have been paying to capture daily numbers from OSF for a while to establish their own database. So their numbers is more accurate than most publications out there and is also more closer to what studios finally receive. （This Weibo ID also report based on OSF numbers)

 

A big confusion is the hysteresis of box office reporting in China, of which even OSF has no full control. Although there are 4700+ theaters right now, only 4400+ show movies actively. And of them, only 4000+ can report  numbers daily at the most. Even worse, some times Entgroup's daily numbers probably is just from 3500+ theaters as the rest havent reported yet so do the math if necessary. Good thing is Entgroup revise their numbers several times afterwards.

 

(Though I am not sure if Rentrak, a paid service from them, get China numbers from Entgroup or directly from OSF, Rentrak's numbers is certainly incomplete.)

 

Cood news is that OSF will be reporting real time and daily box office and screening info on Weibo from sometime this month, as one effective way to crack down box office cheating.

Edited November 6, 2014 by firedeep

[Olive]

Some October Statistics for Chinese Movie Market

Monthly BO: 2.752B yuan/$447M, +73%(  )from Oct. 2013, +46% from Sep. 2014

Monthly admissions: 77.9M, +74% from Oct. 2013, +37% from Sep. 2014

 

Yearly BO also reached 24.9 billion yuan by Oct. 31st, 41% from 2013's same period.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Carol Danvers

[druv10]

Thurs Numbers

 

TMNT 13.6M 230M 34.3M

KFJ 6.1M 80.2M  13.04M

TMR 5.0M 107M  17.40M

Lucy 4.0M 247M   40.16M

GOTG 1.0M 589M  95.77M

[Olive]

Very few showtimes will GOTG have during the weekend, hope it can make another 2 mil yuan to pass Spidey2.

[druv10]

Very few showtimes will GOTG have during the weekend, hope it can make another 2 mil yuan to pass Spidey2.

 

I thought TASM2 made 585M?

[Olive]

I thought TASM2 made 585M?

No, 590.6M

[juni78ukr]

58921.com is an amateur site published by box office enthusiast, similar to http://tbzs.sinaapp.com/wp.php.

 

At the moment, for us outsiders, I would say Entgroup is the most reliable/accessible source for China box office numbers, though occasionally their numbers could be a few millions off, if they forget to capture the lastest updates from the system of the Office of China Film Business Special Development Funds Administration Commission (国家电影事业发展专项资金管理委员会办公室), or the Office of Special Funds (专资办) in short, as we usually call. There is not a website, but here is the SARFT's official introuduction page on this Office: http://www.sarft.gov.cn/articles/2009/03/18/20090318155829700394.html

 

 

That's what I meant. An amateur site against a huge base with much more resources. Not conviced so far. Thats' why I prefer to stick with entgroup numbers. .Besided everyone else outside of China use them. And we need  also  numbers in USD. Entgroup provides them, but others don't. 

Edited November 6, 2014 by juni78ukr

[Olive]

The difference from those sources is usually less than 1%.

[juni78ukr]

Yes, I noticed that sometimes entgroup numbers might be even a bit higher. 5.6 mln yuan difference for Spidey is a rare case. 

[Chan Keobora]

Thurs Numbers

 

TMNT 13.6M 230M 34.3M

KFJ 6.1M 80.2M  13.04M

TMR 5.0M 107M  17.40M

Lucy 4.0M 247M   40.16M

GOTG 1.0M 589M  95.77M

Does Hercules reach yuan 100m (18days)?

 

How about The boundary OD? it should be more than Kungfu Jungle.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Tonghai

[Chan Keobora]

The romantic love hit release today For love or money

 

Look so cute, Asian beauty : 

 

[Olive]

Does Hercules reach yuan 100m (18days)?

 

How about The boundary OD? it should be more than Kungfu Jungle.

Hercules  end up around 83M yuan.

The Boundary OD est 7.7M yuan

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Hercules was a flat out flop ....

 

The Boundary seems slighly underperformed.

 

Predicted 51m OW for For Love or For Money but it looks that OW is not happening. Told the film would get 30% screenings ... what a misleading ... would be lucky to get 30m with 15% showtimes.

 

This is another slow week. Next week should be interesting.

[Donald]

Firedeep!

Will chinas boxoffice reach 5billion?

[Olive]

http://www.gewara.com/movie/181803861

presales in China, 913 now

5 days to go, it will increase faster closer to release date.

If this number reaches 35000, it could make 100M usd.

I'll update every 12 hours.

[Archerdude]

Firedeep!

Will chinas boxoffice reach 5billion?

 

I think the question is how quickly before the end of the year not if?

[Rsyu]

Does China have many IMAX screens? Seeing it in IMAX really helps build the hype I think.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Rsyu

[Olive]

Does China have many IMAX screens? Seeing it in IMAX really helps build the hype I think.

170+ IMAX screens 

[A Marvel Fanboy]

$5B / 30.75B in 2014 looks will be reached.

 

However I have counted only 24.67B RMB for Jan~Oct ... Even though that leaves just 2.2B for Nov and 3.88B for Dec.

Edited November 7, 2014 by firedeep

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Gone with the Bullets broke presales record in China, selling 12m RMB worth tickets in first 4 days on Ali and Sina.