Rudolf Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 very small sample to be really sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezorz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I dont know, guys, if you read Rob Cain´s blog about chinese film business. If not, you should. Couple of updates: Just questions - shame there is no analysis - about why pixar films have no success in China thought being so uniuque and popular elsewhere.: - Pixar’s Persistent China Drought http://chinafilmbiz.wordpress.com/2012/07/03/pixars-persistent-china-drought/ ´While other studios’ animated feature films have prospered in China’s theaters, Pixar’s films have consistently underperformed there. Brave earned 60 percent less in its first week than Madagascar 3 did in its third, and the Pixar film also trailed far behind a poorly reviewed Taiwanese action film, Black and White Episode I, that opened against it last week.´ “Painted” Skins the Competition with Sophisticated Strategy and Superior Marketing http://chinafilmbiz.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/painted-skins-the-competition-with-sophisticated-strategy-and-superior-marketing/ ´Bang the gong, break out the champagne, and set off some extra fireworks, because China finally has a bona fide, home-grown blockbuster hit. Painted Skin: The Resurrection (画皮2, or Painted Skin 2), the $18 million sequel to the 2008 smash Painted Skin, last weekend became the first non-Hollywood film in nearly 6 months to beat out the foreign competition and place first at the Chinese box office, with a record-breaking gross of $47 million in its first 4 days.´ China’s Box Office: An Excellent 2012 So Far http://chinafilmbiz.wordpress.com/2012/07/08/chinas-box-office-an-excellent-2012-so-far/ ´Thanks mainly to stellar attendance for Hollywood-made films, China’s box office racked up growth of 41 percent (as measured in US dollars) for the first half of 2012, with aggregate ticket sales of more than $1.25 billion through the weekend ending July 1. If China’s usual annual pattern of higher second-half ticket sales holds this year, the July-December period will account for around 60 percent of total revenue, and the year-end tally will exceed $3 billion´ Interview on Hollywood’s China Aspirations http://chinafilmbiz.wordpress.com/2012/07/13/interview-on-hollywoods-china-aspirations/ Chinese Films Light Up the Box Office During Hollywood ‘Blackout’ http://chinafilmbiz.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/chinese-films-light-up-the-box-office-during-hollywood-blackout-5-2/ ´With a 4-week, SARFT imposed ‘blockade’ barring new foreign releases at China’s theaters starting the week of June 25th, China/Hong Kong co-pros like Painted Skin 2 and The Four, and local Chinese film Caught in the Web have stepped up in admirable fashion to reclaim lost turf. Most impressive has been Huayi Bros’ Painted Skin 2, which just crossed the $100 million mark and is now a lock to set a new record as the mainland’s highest grossing Chinese language film ever. the aforementioned Chinese successes have underscored several realities of the PRC movie market that may not have been apparent as recently as June: Chinese audiences still want to see Chinese movies Blackouts are a big, and increasingly costly, fact of life for non-Chinese suppliers Hollywood’s studios need to evolve their China strategies if they are to remain contenders there over the long term´ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 good to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezorz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Some more articles of interest: Hollywood's Script in China Three experts discuss China's rapidly evolving film industry and opportunities for US entertainment companies https://www.chinabusinessreview.com/public/1207/hollywood.html What can Iron Man 3 shoot in China? http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/what-can-iron-man-3-shoot-in-china ´What, if anything, will Marvel's Iron Man 3 鋼鐵俠3 be able to shoot in China? The third movie in the Iron Man superhero series was given a partially Chinese theme and structured as a Chinese-US co-venture to maximise its commercial chances in the world's fastest-growing film market. But at last weekend's Comic-Con convention in San Diego, US, it emerged that the film's China shoot will be tokenistic´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezorz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 lorax with ice age, batman (ok, now it seems it will be banned after all) with spidey - it seems this is a chinese tactic to limit US films income from chinese moviegoers and, in effect, to artificialy rise chinese movies gross eventhough they will not get any juan more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Some more articles of interest: Hollywood's Script in China Three experts discuss China's rapidly evolving film industry and opportunities for US entertainment companies https://www.chinabus.../hollywood.html What can Iron Man 3 shoot in China? http://www.filmbiz.a...-shoot-in-china ´What, if anything, will Marvel's Iron Man 3 鋼鐵俠3 be able to shoot in China? The third movie in the Iron Man superhero series was given a partially Chinese theme and structured as a Chinese-US co-venture to maximise its commercial chances in the world's fastest-growing film market. But at last weekend's Comic-Con convention in San Diego, US, it emerged that the film's China shoot will be tokenistic´ So we know IM3 is budgeted at staggering 250M: That's far from the position proposed in April when Marvel, Walt Disney Company China and China's DMG Entertainment DMG娛樂傳媒集團 announced that the $250 million film would be a China-US co-production and that DMG would co-invest, co-produce and co-distribute. And it has become clear that Iron Man 3 has still not yet received the approvals it needs to be considered as a China co-production, a status needed to get around China's import quotas and earn a maximum share of the box office revenues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I don't understand why Chinese and Russian people don't like Pixar movies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 I don't understand why Chinese and Russian people don't like Pixar movies..Pixar animations can do well in China actually, like UP, TS3. It is just Brave that did super bad.But well, DWA and BS studios, on the other hand, do better than Pixar in China, probably because their animations are more entertaining and can bring audience more laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Pixar animations can do well in China actually, like UP, TS3. It is just Brave that did super bad.But well, DWA and BS studios, on the other hand, do better than Pixar in China, probably because their animations are more entertaining and can bring audience more laughs.Brave is too dark to appeal to kids a,d families, and Cars 2 targeted boys.Pixar needs to come back to more universal franchises (Monsters & Company, Toy Story, The Incredibles).Otherwise Dreamworks will dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Brave is too dark to appeal to kids a,d families, and Cars 2 targeted boys.Pixar needs to come back to more universal franchises (Monsters & Company, Toy Story, The Incredibles).Otherwise Dreamworks will dominate.DWA already dominated. Both KFP and Madagascar series had great success in China and they are building a Shanghai based company. They will produce Chinese-material-based big budget animation within China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 DWA already dominated. Both KFP and Madagascar series had great success in China and they are building a Shanghai based company. They will produce Chinese-material-based big budget animation within China.I talked about the world, not China.Pixar needs to be more successful in Asia, they succeeded in Japan so they can succeed in the rest of Asia.Because Europe won't be enough, Disney can help Pixar because they have a good network in Asia.I think US/China cooperation for movies is a good thing, Hollywood thinkers are smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I don't understand why Chinese and Russian people don't like Pixar movies.. South Korea and German speaking people are also not so Pixar-phil NorthAmerica and Japan go gaga over it Edited July 24, 2012 by Rudolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezorz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 pixar films are too complicated for animated films. they are aimed not to children only but to adults too. they are quite unique, in style, in characters, they are not afraid to break the rules, etc. other studios have tried to copy pixar succes, but, no wonder, with no success. pixar is the apple in the animation film world. (steve jobs influence is probable not just a coincidence). you need to have a good taste to distinguish such difference and to appreciate it. it seems some developing countries, china or russia are in their moviegoing beginnings, they need more time to develope a better taste.i am afraid they will gain in box office importance sooner then they will develeop their taste and this means a lot for pixar box office share. i am afraid chinese taste will dominate in few years and we will get worse movies from hollywood. all tentpoles will be soon made mostly in chinese coproduction with a focus and prefference to a chinese mentality than to western people likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezorz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Painted Skin: The Resurrection 畫皮Ⅱ is officially China's highest grossing domestic film. In 25 days, Wuershan 烏爾善's action fantasy has taken RMB686 million ($107 million) in China. Resurrection has taken the box office record from Let the Bullets Fly 讓子彈飛 (2010) which made RMB674 million. It had narrowly taken the record from Aftershock 唐山大地震 (2010), which had taken RMB665 million a few months earlier. Due to the higher ticket prices of the 3-D Resurrection, it has yet to match the admission records of either film. At an average ticket price of RMB44 ($6.90), it has been viewed by 15.5 million people in cinemas http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/resurrection-takes-china-bo-record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ticket price is way too high. Sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 pixar films are too complicated for animated films. they are aimed not to children only but to adults too. they are quite unique, in style, in characters, they are not afraid to break the rules, etc. other studios have tried to copy pixar succes, but, no wonder, with no success. pixar is the apple in the animation film world. (steve jobs influence is probable not just a coincidence). you need to have a good taste to distinguish such difference and to appreciate it. it seems some developing countries, china or russia are in their moviegoing beginnings, they need more time to develope a better taste.i am afraid they will gain in box office importance sooner then they will develeop their taste and this means a lot for pixar box office share. i am afraid chinese taste will dominate in few years and we will get worse movies from hollywood. all tentpoles will be soon made mostly in chinese coproduction with a focus and prefference to a chinese mentality than to western people likes.Actually the first pictures of Brave deluded me to think it's gonna be a movie for adults, whch it is not. If we are going to have more films like KungFu Panda, I am totally for it. I don't like those preachy ones a la Lorax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Lorax is too children-friendly ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wanda Group Announces Receipt of All Necessary Approvals for AMC Acquisition Fully takeover of AMC will happen by the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) BREAKING: Skyfall, BOND 23, will not get a China release (at least not until February 2012 ...) RE5 will be also no release. Edited July 26, 2012 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 BREAKING 2: All major Chinese local films from now on will be released in 3D (and some will be in 3D exclusively). Well done, you fucking rabbish Painted Skin 2. This means Hollywood 3D films no long get more release chances than Hollywood 2D films due to local 3D titles occupying 3D theaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...