Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. True, there could be a drop for DM3. I just don't think it drops too much though. $290-300M is the safest it could go. Also, the lowest grosser in the DM-franchise is still the first one with $251M DOM back in 2010. Granted, that was Illumination's first animated film. And both Pets & Sing made more than DM1. Pets = $368.4M Sing = $270M Since Captain Underpants & Cars 3 didn't break out as much as they needed, this could be the first one that families are starving for since Dreamworks's The Boss Baby. Maybe that's why they're saving their money for DM3, instead of spending it on TF5. could be one of the better animated threequels along with Kung Fu Panda 3 & Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted in terms of quailty.
  2. This. Plus that both Pets & Sing made more than the first DM, DOM-wise. I think Illumination is a far stronger animation-brand when they do their marketing right.
  3. With TF5 underperforming in China......will it's underperformance bode more well with Spider-Man: Homecoming & War for the Planet of the Apes overperforming?
  4. Probably because the score is done by the same composer who did The Incredibles. Michael Giacchino.
  5. Has there been a big blockbuster that relies more on the opposite, "Substance over style"?
  6. $1.0-1.2B OS.
  7. True. You have some good points here. And yeah, the human characters probably may not need as much/more screentime as the Transformers themselves....but at least they need to be well-handled. Maybe 1 or 2 main human characters and that's all they need. Just don't put too extremely high expectations for this TF-movie to be great. People might be pretty disappointed if it ends up being worse than the last one or on a similar boat. The reception for the TF-sequels can be either predictable or unpredictable.
  8. If anyone money is on J.J Abrams to do it. He could make the quality go up with the series and give us more relatable human characters, and give more screentime to the Autobots. Human characters that are friendly, caring, smart & well-written, instead of those that are either annoying to some people or depicted as sex-objects to either gender. We want human characters that we can root for and relate to....instead of those that are just there to be underdeveloped.
  9. Oh, boy. The Shay going childishly Anti-Pixar all over again. 🙄 And still refers himself as the Shay.
  10. I think the reason for Minions's reception is that the Minions themselves alone, had a hard time carrying that movie. And without Gru....they had it tough, critical wise. But when they are with Gru, while he is still the main lead in the DM-films.....that's when the comedy & slapsticks truly shine...since they are rather meant to be side-characters.
  11. Why do you really hate Disney that much? Did Disney do something to irritate you, lol?
  12. Well, right now it's at $503M DOM & $1.252B WW. Who's pathetic now eh? The answer: You, lol.
  13. This. Yeah...i don't see DM3 going below the first one's $251M DOM either. Heck, even Sing with December-legs, although the lowest opening for an fully-animated Illumination film with $35M OW.....still made $270M. If the film is among the more well received animated could hold very well.
  14. I think the presence of Tony Stark will guarantee that Spiderman: Homecoming (hopefully) doesn't decrease DOM-wise....again. I mean, seriously? The Spiderman films after the first Raimi one did nothing but drop off DOM with each film. It would be sad if this one dropped like all the other SM-follow ups. Like a plane slowly going down near for a crash or a boulder rolling down.