Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Decent movie with fast, fiery monsters. The human cast is pretty much worthless but for Fassbender. No where close to Alien or Aliens. About the level of Alien Resurrection. B-
  2. That would be awesome. It is great to see a high quality movie like Dangal do this well in China.
  3. That seems to happen a lot with Hrithik Roshan movies. I have heard that Rajesh Roshan was responsible for the fudge. You are right in that Bollywood seems to have its act together for the most part.
  4. A big fudge, no doubt. These guys, I don't mean just Baahubali team, the film producer/Distributor community and some brokers just report fake numbers. These fake grosses are used to sell movies to local distributors. The other reason for the fudge is to please the fans of various heroes who essentially duke it out online with fake numbers.
  5. +1 Thank you. That is exactly what I was talking about.
  6. These are never officially released by the producer/distributor. So they cleverly release these exaggerated grosses through media outlets, which they will deny come tax time and quote a much lower gross. That is standard operating practice in Indian film industry. Bollywood has gotten a lot better with the advent of Hollywood studious into India. The southern film industries grosses are filled with massive exaggerations.
  7. Baahubali 1 & 2 movie box office grosses are exaggerated. They will make sure BB2 will remain no.1. My partner (in my second movie) bought distribution rights to Baahubali 1 for Karnataka State. While the trades and paid media were reporting bogus grosses of Rs. 79 crores in Karnataka, the actual was Rs. 43 Crores. So, the only Bahubali 2 grosses that are trustworthy are the ones tracked by Rentrak locations like USA, Australia, UK etc.
  8. Wow. Dangal's Monday running total is at 2/3rds of GOTG2. May drop only around 40&% from Sunday. Amazing.
  9. Facts are facts. 7.47 Yuan is not "Striking Gold". It is more like picking up pieces of garbage from the pile. For all the boasting by the paid media regarding Baahubali, it was a certified disaster.
  10. No doubt. Indian media operates on pay per article basis and are completely biased often posting outright lies to promote the agenda of the government.
  11. Baahubali was an abysmal failure in China. Some in the indian media were projecting this as striking gold.
  12. Excellent movie. Loved the humor. Yondu scene at the end is touching. Even in the first one, you could sense that he loved Peter as a son. A
  13. Probably 5 to 6 times its "True" OD. The Nizam/Andhra Nett is being reported as Rs. 45 Crores. That would mean about a Rs. 55 Crore gross (15% Entertainment tax). The cost of multiplex tickets are about 150 and Single screens average less than Rs. 70. The overall Average maybe Rs. 75. That would mean it sold about 7.5 Million tickets on OD from just 2 states. I have my doubts.
  14. Surprisingly, I liked it. Alec Baldwin was superb. B+
  15. She was excellent, probably the best part of the movie.