Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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TAQUILLA | Spain Boxoffice

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Market evolutionRevenue (M€)

 

2001 616,42

2002 625,90

2003 639,43

2004 691,60

2005 634,95

2006 636,16

2007 643,74

2008 619,29

2009 671,04

2010 662,31

2011 635,85

2012 614,20

2013 506,30

2014 518,17

 

Admissions

2001 146,80

2002 140,71

2003 137,47

2004 143,93

2005 127,65

2006 121,65

2007 116,93

2008 107,81

2009 109,99

2010 101,60

2011  98,34

2012  94,16

2013  78,69

2014  87,99

 

Films with more admissions

 1. Titanic: 11,265,5372. Avatar: 9,535,3063. E.T. The Extraterrestrial: 8,144,6444. Ocho apellidos vascos: 7,600,000 (in cinemas)5. Doctor Zhivago: 7,257,5506. Fellowship of the Ring: 7,041,0397. Star Wars: 6,900,8688. Return of the King: 6,812,1599. The Sixth Sense: 6,762,48010. El Padrecito: 6,595,454

 Spanish films with more admissions 

8 Apellidos vascos  7.600.000  (in cinemas)The others		  6.410.561The impossible	  6.124.264Torrente 2		  5.321.969Mortadelo y Filemon 4.985.983The Orphanage	   4.420.636The sea inside	  4.099.442Torrente 3		  3.575.759Agora			   3.492.572Alatriste		   3.182.491Tadeo Jones         2.757.670

Spanish films with more revenue in € post 2000

0 8 Apellidos vascos                  UIP       2014     1 Lo Imposible                        Warner 	2012	42.386.170 €2 Los Otros                           Warner 	2001	27.254.163 €3 El Orfanato                         Warner 	2007	25.061.450 €4 Gran aventura Mortadelo y Filemón   Warner 	2003	22.847.730 €5 Torrente 2: misión en Marbella      Lola 	2001	22.142.170 €6 Agora                               Fox 	2009	21.391.200 €7 Mar adentro                         Warner 	2004	19.837.473 €8 Torrente 4: lethal crisis           Warner 	2011	19.355.560 €9 Las aventuras de Tadeo Jones        Paramount 2012	18.197.530 €10Torrente 3: The Protector           UIP 	2005	18.168.925 €

Hollywood films with more revenue Post 2000 

1  Avatar 	                        Fox 	2009	77.029.000 €2  TLOTR: The return of the ring        Aurum 	2003	32.932.000 €3  TLOTR: The fellowship of the ring 	Aurum 	2001	31.331.000 €4  TLOTR: The two towers         	Aurum 	2002	29.793.000 €5  PotC: Dead man`s chest               Disney 	2006	28.272.300 €6  Shrek 2                              UIP 	2004	28.207.550 €7  Harry Potter Philosophers stone 	Warner 	2001	27.691.320 €8  Da Vinci`s code                      Sony 	2006	26.782.400 €9  Toy Story 3                          Disney 	2010	24.985.360 €10 Up                                   Disney 	2009	24.922.500 €

Hollywood films with more admissions post 2000 

1  Avatar                               Fox 	2009	9.535.3002  TLOTR: The fellowship of the ring 	Aurum 	2001	7.041.0003  TLOTR: The return of the ring 	Aurum 	2003	6.812.1604  TLOTR: The two towers                Aurum 	2002	6.432.0005  Harry Potter Philosophers stone      Warner 	2001	6.312.8006  Shrek 2                              UIP 	2004	6.079.1507  PotC: Dead man`s chest               Disney 	2006	5.496.0008  Spider-Man                           Sony 	2002	5.249.5009  Harry Potter Chamber of the secrets  Warner 	2002	5.217.65010 Da Vinci`s Code                      Sony 	2006	5.072.000
Edited by BCN

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1 TINTIN                2.040,000     14,800,000  32 TOWER HEIST             806,000      2,210,000  23 DOLPHIN TALE            502,000        502,000  NEW4 DREAM HOUSE             415,000      1,200,000  25 THE HELP                393,000      2,000,000  36 HEXE LILLI 2            371,000        371,000  NEW7 SHARK NIGHT 3D          315,000        960,000  28 LONDON BOULEVARD        215,000        215,000  NEW9 MIENTRAS DUERMES        213,000      3,270,000  40 LA GUERRE DES BOUTONS   190,000        190,000  NEW
New films this week:Breaking DawnKiller eliteCarnagePanique au village (Belgium)Winx 3D (Italy)Duns Scoto (Italy)Carne Cruda (Spain)La muerte no se toca, nene (Spain) Edited by BCN

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In this forums you need a master to edit, do good tables etc XD

New films this week:

    [*]Breaking Dawn

    [*]Killer elite

    [*]Carnage

    [*]Panique au village (Belgium)

    [*]Winx 3D (Italy)

    [*]Duns Scoto (Italy)

    [*]Carne Cruda (Spain)

    [*]La muerte no se toca, nene (Spain)

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The streak of Tintin ends with Breaking Dawn. It will be huge in Spain.Killer Elite, Carnage and Winx Club 3D will probably flop.

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Yes, this weekend finished Tintin's leading. I only hope Tintin to be able to win Breaking Down at the end

Edited by peludo

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ADMISSIONS WEEKEND

01 TINTIN               277,388    2,007,68802 TOWER HEIST          123,101      341,46103 DOLPHIN TALE          71,005       71,00504 DREAM HOUSE           63,956      185,85005 HEXE LILLI 2          58,255       58,25506 THE HELP              57,952      302,02207 SHARK NIGHT 3D        41,186      127,10108 LONDON BOULEVARD      32,246       32,24609 MIENTRAS DUERMES      31,936      500,42410 LA GUERRE DES BOUTONS 27,435       28,43511 5 METROS CUADRADOS    24,588       24,58812 LA VOZ DORMIDA        24,161      270,70113 ANONIMOUS             23,105       23,10514 MARGIN CALL           21,998      230,31915 PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 3 18,127      329,77516 FOOTLOOSE             16,485       58,26217 MELANCHOLIA           16,368       51,24018 HABEMUS PAPAM         12,924       42,09219 ABDUCTION             10,032      370,48620 EVA                   10,065      122,445

OUT TOP 20.

    [*]

    [*]CONTAGION

    [*]VERBO

    [*]JOHNNY ENGLISH

    [*]NO HABRÁ PAZ PARA LOS MALVADOS

    [*]LE GAMIN AU VÉLO

    [*]THE THING

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Friday top 10

    [*]Breaking Dawn NEW

    [*]Killer Elite NEW

    [*]Carnage NEW

    [*]Tintin

    [*]Tower Heist

    [*]The Help

    [*]Dream House

    [*]Dolphin Tale

    [*]Hexe Lilli 2

    [*]Mientras duermes

Breaking Dawn has the best opening day of the history in spain with a number between 2,9M€- 3M€, and almost 500,000 admissions

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That's bloody impressive for BD1, does anyone know what the previous OD record holder was?

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That's bloody impressive for BD1, does anyone know what the previous OD record holder was?

POTC 2:€2.9M

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I thought the Spanish people are very cautious on spending given the circumstances today.

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POTC 2:€2.9M

Thanks, just scraped past then.

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That's awesome for BD l considering that it's already the 4th film in the series.

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Provisional numbers

BREAKING DAWN         8,300,000  NEWTINTIN                1,140,000  4KILLER ELITE            870,000  NEWCARNAGE                 640,000  NEWTOWER HEIST             390,000  3
The final number for Breaking Dawn in the weekend will be beetween 8,5 and 8,6 M€third biggest opening weekend after POTC3 and DaVinci`s code Edited by BCN

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Provisional numbers

BREAKING DAWN		 8,300,000  NEWTINTIN				1,140,000  4KILLER ELITE			870,000  NEWCARNAGE				 640,000  NEWTOWER HEIST			 390,000  3
The final number for Breaking Dawn in the weekend will be beetween 8,5 and 8,6 M€third biggest opening weekend after POTC3 and DaVinci`s code
That's very sad...

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Twilight is huge in Spain. I am shocked by how popular it is.Solid for Killer Elite.

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It's definitely the shot in the arm the Spanish BO needs.

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Well, more information.Breaking Dawn numbers in €

Weekend   8,600,000Friday    3,050,000Saturday  3,300,000Sunday    2,250,000Previews    114,000Total:    8,714,000 €405 cinemas    21,235€ Average617 copies     14,000€846 screens    10,165€6,17€ by admission

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Weekend in €

1 BREAKING DAWN      8,600,000   8,600,000  NEW2 TINTIN             1,170,000  16,300,000  43 KILLER ELITE         900,000     900,000  NEW4 CARNAGE              663,000     663,000  NEW5 TOWER HEIST          400,000   2,760,000  3  6 DOLPHIN TALE         350,000     900,000  27 HEXE LILLI 2         320,000     720,000  28 THE HELP             270,000   2,400,000  49 DREAM HOUSE          170,000   1,440,000  30 WINX 3D              124.000     124.000  NEW

THIS WEEK:

    [*]PUSS IN BOOTS

    [*]A DANGEROUS METHOD

    [*]AFTERWARDS

    [*]CEA MAIA FERICITA FATA

    [*]SI NO NOSOTROS, ¿QUIÉN? (SPAIN)

    [*]LA PUERTA DE NO RETORNO

    [*]EL GATO DESAPARECE (ARGENTINA)

    [*]WER WENN NICHT WIR

    [*]MATHIAS SCHWEIGHÖFER

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ADMISSIONS WEEKEND

01 BREAKING DAWN           1,311,707   1,317,65802 TINTIN                    162,821   2,217,04103 KILLER ELITE              136,520     136,52004 CARNAGE                    95,980      95,98005 TOWER HEIST                60,480     430,06906 DOLPHIN TALE               51,067     129,95207 HEXE LILLI 2               50,720     113,90608 THE HELP                   39,358     364,52909 DREAM HOUSE                26,447     225,59210 WINX                       17,953      17,95311 MIENTRAS DUERMES           15,223     524,00012 LA NOUVELLE GUERRE BOUTONDS13,898      50,84213 5 METROS CUADRADOS         12,606      45,19014 MARGIN CALL                12,473     250,40615 LA VOZ DORMIDA             11,566     290,73916 LONDON BOULEVARD           10,618      52,89117 SHARK NIGHT 3D             10,263     144,82918 ANONYMOUS                   9,202      39,68219 MELANCHOLIA                 8,130      67,07420 HABEMUS PAPPAM              5,842      53,597

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