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The nominees are looking to be pretty slight in terms of box office and there ain't any story to really make people care, as Coolio said. This would not be the year to go hostless.

Yep, and I think DC is either tomorrow or Monday. I like the DC critics because they do nominations.

Huh, I think Dev Patel has nearly as good a shot as Hedges if not better, and I think both are far from locks at this point. Who knows what is going on there?

La La Land takes best pic.

Silence did not screen for BFCA. Zootopia wins animated for NYCC

Well, it lined up about 80 percent in Best Picture last couple years, that's all I meant. I'm just happy Nocturnal Animals got some love. I actually really really liked that movie. Think it's been slept on.

Here's the Satellite Award noms. They usually match the Oscars pretty closely, so worth checking out. Also, their press release is in a weird order, so sorry about that. Good day for Hidden Figures. Hacksaw Ridge gotta be feeling okay, too. They didn't screen Silence or Patriot's Day, fwiw. No word on if they saw Live By Night/Passengers/Collateral Beauty. Special Achievement Award Recipients Mary Pickford Award- Edward James Olmos Tesla Award- John Toll Auteur Award- Tom Ford Humanitarian Award- Patrick Stewart Best First Feature- Russudan Glurjidze “House of Others” Best Ensemble: Motion Picture- “Hidden Figures” Best Ensemble: Television- “Outlander” Actress in a Motion Picture Annette Bening, “20th Century Woman” Emma Stone, “La La Land” Natalie Portman, “Jackie” Ruth Negga, “Loving” Taraji P. Henson, “Hidden Figures” Meryl Streep, “Florence Foster Jenkins” Isabelle Huppert, “Elle” Amy Adams, “Nocturnal Animals” Actor in a Motion Picture Casey Affleck, “Manchester by the Sea” Ryan Gosling, “La La Land” Joseph Gordon-Levitt, “Snowden” Viggo Mortensen, “Captain Fantastic” Joel Edgerton, “Loving” Andrew Garfield, “Hacksaw Ridge” Tom Hanks, “Sully” Denzel Washington, “Fences” Actress in a Supporting Role Helen Mirren, “Eye in the Sky” Michelle Williams, “Manchester by the Sea” Nicole Kidman, “Lion” Octavia Spencer, “Hidden Figures” Naomi Harris, “Moonlight” Viola Davis, “Fences” Actor in a Supporting Role Jeff Bridges, “Hell or High Water” Mahershala Ali, “Moonlight” Dev Patel, “Lion” Lucas Hedges, “Manchester by the Sea” Eddie Murphy, “Mr. Church” Hugh Grant, “Florence Foster Jenkins” Motion Picture “La La Land” “Moonlight” “Manchester by the Sea” “Lion” “Jackie” “Hacksaw Ridge” “Loving” “Hell or High Water” “Nocturnal Animals” “Captain Fantastic” “Hidden Figures” “Fences” Motion Picture, International Film “The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Maki”- Finland “Toni Erdmann”- Germany “Julieta”- Spain “A Man Called Ove”- Sweden “The Salesman”- Iran “The Ardennes”- Belgium “Ma’ Rosa”- Philippines “The Handmaiden”- South Korea “Elle”- France “Paradise”- Russia Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media Title of Film “Zootopia” “Kubo and the Two Strings” “Moana” “Finding Dory” “My Life As a Zucchini” “The Jungle Book” “The Red Turtle” “Miss Hokusai” “Trolls” “Your Name” Motion Picture, Documentary “Gleason” “Life Animated” “O.J.: Made in America” “13th” “The Ivory Game” “The Eagle Huntress” “Tower” “Fire at Sea” “Zero Days” “The Beatles: Eight Days a Week” Director Barry Jenkins, “Moonlight” Kenneth Lonergan, “Manchester by the Sea” Mel Gibson, “Hacksaw Ridge” Damien Chazelle, “La La Land” Tom Ford, “Nocturnal Animals” Pablo Larrain, “Jackie” Denzel Washington, “Fences” Screenplay, Original Barry Jenkins, “Moonlight” Damien Chazelle, “La La Land” Kenneth Lonergan, “Manchester by the Sea” Taylor Sheridan, “Hell or High Water” Matt Ross, “Captain Fantastic” Yorgos Lanthimos/Efthymis Filippou, “The Lobster” Screenplay, Adapted Andrew Knight/Robert Schenkkan, “Hacksaw Ridge” Luke Davis, “Lion” Kieran Fitzgerald/Oliver Stone, “Snowden” Justin Marks, “The Jungle Book” Allison Schroeder, “Hidden Figures” Todd Komarnicki, “Sully” Original Score Rupert Gregson Williams, “Hacksaw Ridge” Justin Hurwitz, “La La Land” Lesley Barber, “Manchester by the Sea” John Williams, “The BFG” John Debney, “The Jungle Book” Hans Zimmer, “Hidden Figures” Original Song “Audition”- ‘La La Land’ “City of Stars”- ‘La La Land’ “Dancing with Your Shadow”- ‘Po’ “Can’t Stop the Feeling”- ‘Trolls’ “I’m Still Here”- ‘Miss Sharon Jones’ “Running”- ‘Hidden Figures’ Cinematography John Toll, “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” Linus Sandgren, “La La Land” James Laxton, “Moonlight” Simon Duggan, “Hacksaw Ridge” Jani-Petteri Passi, “The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Maki” Bill Pope, “The Jungle Book” Visual Effects “The Jungle Book” “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” “Doctor Strange” “The BFG” “Sully” “Deadpool” Film Editing Tom Cross, “La La Land” Joi McMillon/Nat Sanders, “Moonlight” Tim Squyres, “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” Alexandre de Francheschi, “Lion” John Gilbert, “Hacksaw Ridge” Steven Rosenblum, “The Birth of a Nation” Sound (Editing and Mixing) “La La Land” “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” “Hacksaw Ridge” “The Jungle Book” “Allied” “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” Art Direction and Production Design David Wasco, “La La Land” Barry Robinson, “Hacksaw Ridge” Jean Rabasse, “Jackie” Christophe Glass, “The Jungle Book” Gary Freeman, “Allied” Dan Hennah, “Alice Through the Looking Glass” Costume Design Colleen Atwood, “Alice Through the Looking Glass” Eimer Ní Mhaoldomhnaigh, “Love & Friendship” Courtney Hoffman, “Captain Fantastic” Madeline Fontaine, “Jackie” Mary Zophres, “La La Land” Alexandra Byrne, “Doctor Strange”

Patriots Day blends real documentary footage, interviews, and actual scenes. I could easily see it winning Editing if they like it. Probably could win both the sound cats, too. And why not an Adapted Screenplay nod? It's a weaker year there. I'm not necessarily predicting these things but to say it has no other chances seems unwise. I also think people underestimate the power of the acting branch when it comes to Fences. Movies that were mostly acting plays like Les Mis and Theory of Everything have made it in pretty easily in the past, and this seems like it will be on the better received end of the spectrum. I also think the idea that only two "black" movies can get nominated, thus eliminating either Fences or Hidden Figures, is....weird. I don't see anyone arguing that Manchester By The Sea is taking a spot from Sully.

A couple of Oscar pundits that I trust alot say that Patriot's Day is playing insanely well with the guilds and might be a dark horse to even win the whole damn thing. I'm not predicting it, but I could see Berg sneaking in.

Fences, Jackie, Loving, and Lion are top contenders shut out. I like their top ten. Pretty interesting list. Big gets for Hidden Figures, Hacksaw, and Patriots Day.

Very true, I'm excited to hear. They've also seen Live By Night, but I've heard that shit is Gangster Squad 2.0. They've seen Hidden Figures, too, so that might pick up something. Those are the last three unreviewed award movies, unless you want to try and convince someone Collateral Beauty (a W.O.A.T. contender) and Passengers (getting FYC ads for Production Design on THR, not a good sign they think it can win anything big) are players.

Anyone have NBR predictions before they come in around noon? I think La La Land, Eastwood, Hanks. Adams in an upset, Bridges, and Davis.

It's my favorite time of movie year! We have this topic every year, so let's get it started. Today, we have NBR dropping. We get New York, LA, and DC Critics this week, along with BFCA. First post updated as awards come in. Last night was the Gotham Awards, the kickoff to awards season for indie films. Gotham Awards Best FeatureMoonlightBest DocumentaryO.J.: Made in AmericaBest Actress Isabelle Huppert in Elle (Sony Pictures Classics)Best Actor Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea (Amazon Studios) Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award Trey Edward Shults for Krisha (A24) Best ScreenplayMoonlight, Story by Tarell Alvin McCraney; Screenplay by Barry Jenkins (A24) Breakthrough Actor Anya Taylor-Joy in The Witch (A24) NBR Best Film: Manchester by the Sea Best Director: Barry Jenkins, Moonlight Best Actor: Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea Best Actress: Amy Adams, Arrival Best Supporting Actor: Jeff Bridges, Hell or High Water Best Supporting Actress: Naomie Harris, Moonlight Best Original Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea Best Adapted Screenplay: Jay Cocks and Martin Scorsese, Silence Best Animated Feature: Kubo and the Two StringsBreakthrough Performance (Male): Lucas Hedges, Manchester by the Sea Breakthrough Performance (Female): Royalty Hightower, The Fits Best Directorial Debut: Trey Edward Shults, Krisha Best Foreign Language Film: The Salesman Best Documentary: O.J.: Made in America Best Ensemble: Hidden Figures Spotlight Award: Creative Collaboration of Peter Berg and Mark Wahlberg NBR Freedom of Expression Award: Cameraperson Top Films Arrival Hacksaw Ridge Hail, Caesar! Hell or High Water Hidden Figures La La Land Moonlight Patriot’s Day Silence Sully Top 5 Foreign Language Films Elle The Handmaiden Julieta Land of Mine Neruda Top 5 Documentaries De Palma The Eagle Huntress Gleason Life, Animated Miss Sharon Jones! Top 10 Independent Films 20th Century Women Captain Fantastic Creative Control Eye in the Sky The Fits Green Room Hello, My Name is Doris Krisha Morris from America Sing Street Critic's Choice Best Picture “Arrival” “Fences” “Hacksaw Ridge” “Hell or High Water” “La La Land” “Lion” “Loving” “Manchester by the Sea” “Moonlight” “Sully” Best Director Damien Chazelle (“La La Land”)Mel Gibson (“Hacksaw Ridge”) Barry Jenkins (“Moonlight”) Kenneth Lonergan (“Manchester by the Sea”) David Mackenzie (“Hell or High Water”) Denis Villeneuve (“Arrival”) Denzel Washington (“Fences”) Best Actor Casey Affleck (“Manchester by the Sea”) Joel Edgerton (“Loving”) Andrew Garfield (“Hacksaw Ridge”) Ryan Gosling (“La La Land”) Tom Hanks (“Sully”) Denzel Washington (“Fences”) Best Actress Amy Adams (“Arrival”) Annette Bening (“20th Century Women”) Isabelle Huppert (“Elle”) Ruth Negga (“Loving”) Natalie Portman (“Jackie”) Emma Stone (“La La Land”) Best Supporting Actor Mahershala Ali (“Moonlight”) Jeff Bridges (“Hell or High Water”) Ben Foster (“Hell or High Water”) Lucas Hedges (“Manchester by the Sea”) Dev Patel (“Lion”) Michael Shannon (“Nocturnal Animals”) Best Supporting Actress Viola Davis (“Fences”) Greta Gerwig (“20th Century Women”) Naomie Harris (“Moonlight”) Nicole Kidman (“Lion Janelle Monáe (“Hidden Figures”) Michelle Williams (“Manchester by the Sea”) Best Young Actor/Actress Lucas Hedges (“Manchester by the Sea”) Alex R. Hibbert (“Moonlight”) Lewis MacDougall (“A Monster Calls”) Madina Nalwanga (“Queen of Katwe”) Sunny Pawar – Lion”) Hailee Steinfeld (“The Edge of Seventeen”) Best Adapted Screenplay Luke Davies (“Lion”) Tom Ford (“Nocturnal Animals”) Eric Heisserer (“Arrival”) Todd Komarnicki (“Sully”) Allison Schroeder, Theodore Melfi (“Hidden Figures”) August Wilson (“Fences”) Best Original Screenplay Damien Chazelle (“La La Land”) Barry Jenkins (“Moonlight”) Yorgos Lanthimos/Efthimis Filippou (“The Lobster”) Kenneth Lonergan (“Manchester by the Sea “) Jeff Nichols (“Loving”) Taylor Sheridan (“Hell or High Water”) Best Cinematography “Arrival” (Bradford Young) “Jackie” (Stéphane Fontaine) “La La Land” (Linus Sandgren) “Moonlight” (James Laxton) “Nocturnal Animals” (Seamus McGarvey) Best Costume Design “Allied” (Joanna Johnston) “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” (Colleen Atwood) “Florence Foster Jenkins” (Consolata Boyle) “Jackie” (Madeline Fontaine) “La La Land” (Mary Zophres) “Love & Friendship” (Eimer Ni Mhaoldomhnaigh) Best Editing “Arrival” (Joe Walker) “Hacksaw Ridge” (John Gilbert) “La La Land” (Tom Cross) “Moonlight” (Nat Sanders, Joi McMillon) “Sully” (Blu Murray) Best Hair & Makeup “Doctor Strange” “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” “Hacksaw Ridge” “Jackie” “Star Trek Beyond” Best Production Design “Arrival” (Patrice Vermette; Paul Hotte, André Valade) “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” (Stuart Craig; James Hambidge, Anna Pinnock) “Jackie” (Jean Rabasse; Véronique Melery) “La La Land” (David Wasco; Sandy Reynolds-Wasco) “Live By Night” (Jess Gonchor; Nancy Haigh) Best Score “Arrival” (Jóhann Jóhannsson) “Jackie” (Mica Levi) “La La Land” (Justin Hurwitz) “Moonlight” (Nicholas Britell) “Lion” (Dustin O’Halloran, Hauschka) Best Song “Audition (The Fools Who Dream) from “La La Land” “City of Stars” from “La La Land” “How Far I’ll Go” from “Moana” “Can’t Stop the Feeling!” from “Trolls” “The Rules Don’t Apply” from “Rules Don’t Apply” “Drive It Like You Stole It” from “Sing Street” Best Visual Effects “Arrival” “Doctor Strange” “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” “The Jungle Book” “A Monster Calls” Best Animated Feature “Finding Dory” “Kubo and the Two Strings” “Moana” “The Red Turtle” “Trolls” “Zootopia” Best Foreign Language Film “Elle” “The Handmaiden” “Julieta” “Neruda” “The Salesman” “Toni Erdmann” Best Acting Ensemble “Fences” “Hell or High Water” “Hidden Figures” “Manchester by the Sea” “Moonlight” “20th Century Women” Best Action Movie “Captain America: Civil War” “Deadpool” “Doctor Strange” “Hacksaw Ridge” “Jason Bourne” Best Actor in an Action Movie Benedict Cumberbatch (“Doctor Strange”) Matt Damon (“Jason Bourne”)Chris Evans (“Captain America: Civil War”) Andrew Garfield (“Hacksaw Ridge”) Ryan Reynolds (“Deadpool”) Best Actress in an Action Movie Gal Gadot (“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice”) Scarlett Johansson (“Captain America: Civil War”) Margot Robbie (“Suicide Squad”) Tilda Swinton (“Doctor Strange”) Best Comedy “Central Intelligence” “Deadpool” “Don’t Think Twice” “The Edge of Seventeen” “Hail, Caesar!” “The Nice Guys” Best Actor in a Comedy Ryan Gosling (“The Nice Guys”) Hugh Grant (“Florence Foster Jenkins”) Dwayne Johnson (“Central Intelligence”) Viggo Mortensen (“Captain Fantastic”) Ryan Reynolds (“Deadpool”) Best Actress in a Comedy Kate Beckinsale (“Love & Friendship”) Sally Field (“Hello, My Name Iis Doris”) Kate McKinnon (“Ghostbusters”) Hailee Steinfeld (“The Edge of Seventeen”) Meryl Streep (“Florence Foster Jenkins”) Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie “Arrival” “Doctor Strange” “Don’t Breathe” “Star Trek Beyond” “10 Cloverfield Lane” “The Witch”

I think the primary scene in that act (the scene in the diner) is probably the best scene in the whole movie.*shrugs* Also, Trevante Rhodes better be careful. He might mess around and end up a fucking superstar. Dude has everything it takes to be one of the biggest stars in Hollywood, for real. Sometimes, you just watch someone and know.

*backs out of topic slowly*

Guys, go see Moonlight right now. The numbers will be here when you get back. Go see this film!

I forgot about Black Hawk Down, a movie which I generally was lukewarm on but was indeed exceedingly well directed. I thought the Martian was a fine directing of something potentially spectacular, which is what you would expect from one of these Marvel indie/TV guys. American Gangster was kind of a bloated mess to me,but it was fine. Never saw the KOH Director's Cut, but did see the original cut (the one actually released in theaters) and thought it was wooden and choppy. I'm not saying Ridley Scott is a bad director or these are bad movies at all. The guy directed Blade Runner and Alien, he's a genius. And these movies are fine. But that is it. They're just fine. It's like late career Shaq - he's still the biggest name, but at some point, you've got to just say the old Shaq ain't coming back. I was more responding to the "Sir Ridley will make it all better" stuff. It's not like he's the Coens/Scorcese. Dude is on a fairly mediocre run on the average.

Of course! That's not a gospel truth, just a bit of information to throw into the pot. Make of it what ya will. FWIW, I don't think Ridley Scott has done a great job directing since Gladiator. Martian was good, but it was based on an excellent book, had a great script, and a terrific cast. Honestly, it felt like the bare minimum of good for how much it had going for it, and I chalk alot of that up to Ridley. So that is coloring what I think of this.

I heard from someone I follow on this board, @antovolk I think (sorry if it isn't you!), that this had started screening and apparently reception was not very good at all.

Hot take: I don't think this is the big hit people are expecting it to be either critically and commercially, so other movies clearing out for it in a crowded summer would be silly. Life should move though, that's too much overlap. And A2 should maybe shift back a week and replace it over Memorial Day as counterprogramming.

If this is getting moved to May, then next August is pretty barren.

Also, I don't think I've ever given less of a fuck about characters in a major movie franchise than the Hobbit. Martin Freeman and McKellan were great and all, but even them - it all ends up good for those guys, and we already know exactly HOW it ends up good before the movie even starts. The dwarfs were awful. Terrible. I couldn't care less about a single one of them. ESPECIALLY Thorin Oakenshield. Bunny rabbit man and Legolas' dad/brother whatever he was? Hokey as shit. I say all of this to emphasize how astonishingly poor these movies were for someone who made three masterpieces in the same damn franchise nine years before.

Even the praised action scenes in the Hobbit kind of suck. The boat chase, the dwarfs running from Smaug, the Goblin King scene in the first....all of them felt like something out of fucking Donkey Kong. Jackson directed every action scene like a platform video game. The first Smaug introduction was great, though. And so was him destroying the Lake Town, even if it was poorly edited into the context of the larger story. And obviously the Gollum scene killed. But otherwise......yeesh. I think there's about an hour or two of good stuff in a seven hour trilogy.

I was a tiny bit disappointed in Arrival. It is great for awhile, but then it kind of gets messy. I think it's the weakest of his major releases. *ducks*

Jackson's Kong was a little long and could have used another run (or five) through the editor's room, but honestly I'd certainly say the same for ROTK just as much and even for Fellowship a bit. All of those movies kicked fucking ass in spite of it, dude was a genius at the time. The real question is what happened to the dude? Lovely Bones was AWFUL. And the Hobbit? Hot take incoming, but they're as bad as the Star Wars prequels. I think they're a total mess with a few pretty decent parts minced in. What happened to Jackson's directorial skills? His 90s movies were awesome, too. He just directed Kong and then fell off a fucking cliff in the span of just a few years. It's inexplicable. I'll chalk it up to ego and too much control once he got big.