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I just saw a tweet that was like, "Film Twitter is a million 'Scorsese good! Scorsese bad!' debates while Book Twitter is like, 'The author of the summer's most popular book is a murderer!'" Of course I had to look it up. Between doing a song for this and that David O Russell movie, it seems the Swifties are very disappointed in her... Naturally, Delia Owens goes on to write a novel involving a murder, where there are racially problematic elements... The ad campaign for the movie has seemed a bit off to me, it's starting to make sense now.
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Forbes was talking about how Cruise has probably spent a lot of his earnings in his lifetime. Three divorces as a A-list movie star may have affected his net worth, too. Obviously he's doing more than all right... In countries with royals, the press tends to focus more on them and their foibles. The UK media mention Boris Johnson's eventful personal life, but it's not nearly the frenzy there was over Prince Charles having an affair back in the day. The US doesn't have a separate head of state, so the ceremonial stuff gets thrown onto the POTUS, along with their family being treated like quasi-royals (they even get titles like First Lady, First Daughter, First Pet, etc). Don't all the other movies from a studio get a boost when that studio releases a new blockbuster? One movie might get the double feature increase, but the rest may have better drops than normal.
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They did make $10-20 million (West Side Story even legged it out "all the way" to $38m domestic) but this is a great point. The box office for prestige movies in 2021 was pretty bleak, and so many people were eager to declare The End of dramas released to theaters for the rest of time, or insist that all of those movies were uniformly "unappealing" and would’ve made the same amount even without the pandemic. No matter how much it was pointed out that different demos were returning to theaters at different rates, it didn't matter. CBMs/horror were having good OWs again, so some people in certain parts were happy to write off other still-struggling genres as Doomed! or Flops! So, maybe Elvis is a bit more frontloaded than a Rocketman was in 2019, but so what? Given the absolutely dire fate of similar movies last year, a $31 million opening is at least respectable, if not pretty good.
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Thanks. Well, at least Lightyear missed out on that Pixar record, that it's somewhat comparable is pretty bad. TGM will likely come out ahead in the actuals as well. I can't be that disappointed in Elvis, most prestige movies last year couldn't scrape up $30m domestic in total, let alone opening weekend. The Ouija/Nightcrawler weekend was another close one.
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A movie just has to play in one qualifying market: Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, the Bay Area, Miami or Atlanta. In the past, the qualifying run had to show in LA County for 7 days and prior to it hitting streaming, but now it can be in any one of those cities, day-and-date is fine. https://news.yahoo.com/oscars-academy-restores-theatrical-qualifying-170004048.html Turning Red did play at the El Capitan in Hollywood, so it's eligible for Oscars. * Is that a worse second weekend drop for Lightyear than Onward in March 2020? What a flop for LY.
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Respect made more than most of last year's Oscar hopefuls, released in 2019 or 2022, the box office is probably 3x as much. A musician biopic being basic has never stopped it from being a hit. A high profile Elvis movie 20-30 years ago was an easier sell. On the other hand, the Elvis parodies were more ubiquitous back then, the "biopics" about him were relegated to TV movies/miniseries. So maybe it all evens out...
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I didn't like that as a criticism of Promising Young Woman, it felt like the reviewer missed the point of the movie: it's not like the sleazes of the world are only preying on bombshell 10s, especially in Anytown, USA. But yes, Margot and Carey are very different types. As for Elvis, in the tracking thread, a poster mentioned their theater having several walkouts. The Baz of it all is A Lot if you were looking for another Bohemian Rhapsody.
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I was going to say, "Wasn't the daughter a teenager in the second one?" But it came out in 2016, it ended with her starting college and the actress turns 25 this year. Young for marriage these days, but not totally implausible. Her love interest in Part 2 was from a Greek family, too, so that could be a different dynamic, two Big Fat Greek Families battling for dominance.
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Sure, that definitely happened during No Way Home's opening weekend. There were multiple angry tweets from people with tickets to see Nightmare Alley (also in its OW) at their theater, but their shows got canceled for added Spider-Man screenings. Obviously, people get their money back, but how else the theater placates the fans may vary (vouchers for free showings/concessions/etc). I believe there's a penalty in the first weeks of a movie's run to cancel showings, each chain can decide whether showing the more popular movie is worth it. And there are smaller, regional chains whose ticket sales patterns may differ from the overall numbers.
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Classic Conversation Thread
BoxOfficeFangrl replied to Water Bottle's topic in Box Office Discussion
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I know right? Zaslav wanted to reexamine why they greenlit Cry Macho, inexpensive boilerplate Clint Eastwood that probably lost WB way less money than most of their 2021 slate. Now the studio is willing to sign off on a superhero musical? Somrone tried that on Broadway and Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark was an epic trainwreck. If this works, great, I'm just surprised WB would agree. And if this does work, Todd Phillips probably wins Best Director, the Film Twitter meltdowns would be spectacular.
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It's coming from a trade so the story is very likely real, but why does a "Joker/Harley musical directed by Todd Phillips" also read like Mad Libs fake news designed for clicks? Sure, Joaquin sings too, it would be a fresh angle, Gaga has been rumored for months, so the elements are there for this to make sense on some level. But, if WB came out in two days and said, "We don't know what The Hollywood Reporter is talking about, this isn't actually a thing," I wouldn't be totally surprised either? Like, months later it'll be revealed that Zaslav was trying to get to the bottom of a leaker inside WB and started different fake Joker 2 rumors around the office to see which one got out.
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And somewhere on a hard drive, there are four other videos, where Chris Evans congratulates Kodi Smit-McPhee, Ciarán Hinds, Jesse Plemons and J.K. Simmons for their Oscar wins. It's like the movie world's version of the "Super Bowl Champions" shirts for the losing team. I'd love to see those clips, along with the ad Lionsgate surely had ready to go to bask in La La Land's Best Picture triumph, instead of this...
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Those rules don't go into effect until 2024 (the ceremony for the films of 2023). Anyway, the guidelines are pretty broad and include offscreen representation (like costumers and studio publicists), even 1917 meets them. Top Gun: Maverick would've been totally fine even if it did have to fulfill Academy diversity requirements. https://variety.com/2020/film/awards/oscars-inclusion-diversity-rules-standards-explained-1234763473/#!
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It's not silly to say critics don't vote in the Academy, all members are invited based on their involvement in the film industry (acting, directing, producing, different technical crafts, even publicists now), but there's no "Critics" branch of AMPAS. Critics championing a movie during awards season can make Oscar voters more likely to check out something they otherwise wouldn't, or consider a popular movie/performance worthy for nominating (like Melissa McCarthy in Bridesmaids). Critics are an influence on Oscar voters but enough voters have to agree, we constantly see the Oscar nominations and wins shake out differently than what the critics groups said. Each year is different. Maybe if Dune was released in 2020, Villeneuve easily makes Best Director, but if Nomadland is a 2021 movie, it's only a filler nominee and not a wire-to-wire Best Picture frontrunner. Top Gun: Maverick seems far more likely to appeal to AMPAS members than Spider-Man: No Way Home, just consider the demos of each audience vs the Academy membership. It's only early June and so much can change either way. Just last Oscars, a lot of precedents were broken, but people go right back to saying what the Academy will "never" do. It's a weird form of pop culture amnesia.