TimmyRiggins

Pardon me for being so naive then. I figure they wouldn't want to piss off Cameron (although I'm sure he'll relish the challenge)

Of course they didn't make it, but they still own it. I see what you mean but I just don't understand the thinking. There's far more to Avatar obviously than its B.O.

Seeing folks saying "let's go watch it again so we can beat Avatar" is so pathetic imo. And I love Avatar and Endgame but this is taking such a turn that it is upsetting. That and Disney being so transparent, with some thrown together at the last minute extras. Had they done a proper rerelease in a few months, it would still be annoying but much less so. But hey, whatever, Avatar will probably get another rerelease and take over. I don't understand why Disney wants so desperately for Endgame to pass Avatar when they own both.

I'd be surprised if the EG event makes up for the difference. But it's sad how blind fans are, I'm a MCU fan but are you kidding me, this stuff will be on the BD, an unfinished (seriously) deleted scene?

@NCsoft kicking ass over on the Endgame vs Avatar admissions thread, remarkable post truly.

Obviously do see it in really quality conditions, ie bright 3D.

If you wanna get technical

Avatar 2 makes 2 billion +.

Y'all, save this quote, it'll be useful in two years.

Or they want to maintain a kind of war between the two, and rerelease Avatar later down the road and see who comes on top? Bizarre. I'm not even sure this "rerelease" will add much of anything. It seems that it being mainly one extra post credits scene is making the rounds on Twitter, I doubt most will bother? And it's only domestic isn't it?

Hold the phone, I remember seeing Avatar adjusted for inflation is over 3 billion, so what's this about? (not to mention ticket prices are much more expensive now)

Are you doing it on purpose or are you just happy to disagree with everyone? This is a nonsensical bit, they're apparently attaching some of the stuff that will be in the extras on the BD, it's a cheap move, simple as that. If you're gonna do it, do it a month from now, maybe more. This screams of desperation, THAT's my problem, that and it not being an actual extended cut apparently. Optics matter.

I wonder if that rerelease for EG is even gonna add much of anything. Is it domestic only? Once word gets out online (it already has a bit) that it's not even an extended cut, apparently they're adding some of the stuff that will be an extra on the Blu Ray.

Feige and Disney, shameless, unbelievable.

Some people are really delusional Endgame is not beating it, end of the conversation. Avatar had advantages, so does Endgame. Let's not forget Endgame opened at 1.2 billion.

Holy fuck, that ride looks ASTOUNDING, fuck. The sequels are going to melt everyone's brains.

No way it makes another 40M but it is amusing to see folks discuss how Disney can fudge it.

From the actual film, you mean the footage they recreated? Otherwise, the Overlook is a big character in the book, it's not a film just about a weird cult, the Overlook informs Danny's past and present, etc.

Looks phenomenal, Flanagan shot up to rockstar status after Hill House (which is a masterpiece). Kubrick's Shining is a great film (although I haven't seen the 20 min + longer cut) but god is it a horrendous adaptation. That new ending sounds pretty darn cool and I'm sure Flanagan will handle it well and I also guess it had to be different from the book considering what happens to the Overlook in Kubrick's version.

? Billy's been depicted as an adult before, the concept doesn't change.

There have been many troubled films before who have had great outcomes. That's all I say about this.

Which is the gist of what Sneider said, yep. Only a few days of pickup were planned said Sneider until IT was released and Fox lost their minds and wanted to do THAT. Firepower is a lost cause, let's not bother.

Not Frosty, just Sneider, then THR and Variety. If you don't believe the film got the exact same score as Deadpool's first screening (Sneider said so), then believe whatever you want to believe, I don't care. Just because I'm optimistic and excited for the film doesn't mean I'm wrong or I'm deluded.

A disconnect? No, just another point of view instead of the rehashed "This film is going to suck, it's a mess, they should dump it on streaming (there's an actual theatrical release date)". If you can't take someone defending the film on a thread that is recycled hate all the time, then I don't know what you're doing here, is there a purpose to your presence here? (and no, it's not "discussion" when it's the same hateful nonsense all the time). I mean, think about it, how would Josh Boone, or the folks who worked on the film feel if they popped in there and saw non stop glee, hate all the time? Also Kinberg isn't a liar, I'm sure that if you hold him to that level of scrutiny and morality, then there are tons of actors, producers and co who should be called liars. Just because they're not always at liberty to say something, whether it's being cast in a film, or a film's reshoots, doesn't mean they're liars. It's common sense, that's all, Disney could have easily dumped the film earlier, but they're giving it a prime theatrical spot, the film cost peanuts, there might be potential there, and you're not behind the scenes anyway, why should you be right and me necessarily wrong? The reshoots have been planned forever, then the merger, Disney assessing what to do with the film, it's an unusual, difficult situation. Why would Horn, Feige or Iger mention reshoots? It's not their project, they just inherited it, if you want news, it's going to come from the producers of the film or the director man.

Where did you hear this? Please don't tell me from that clown slugzilla on superherohype Jeff Sneider said this in 2018. https://www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ "For starters, I’m told that the creative differences between director Josh Boone and Fox execs have been blown out of proportion by fanboy bloggers who are all too eager to make a mountain out of a molehill, and that Boone ultimately delivered the movie that he and co-writer Knate Lee originally agreed to make. There is no “Josh Boone cut” gathering dust in a locked vault on the Fox lot." The simple fact is that making movies of this size is a complicated process that involves many compromises, and a corresponding number of cooks in the kitchen. Sometimes there are too many cooks, and that’s kind of what happened with regard to New Mutants. Boone and Lee wrote the initial drafts of the script, but they were replaced and brought back multiple times. The studio even assembled a writer’s room to tear apart the script and put it back together. So while Boone and Lee might have their names on every draft, agency sources insist that this film was written by committee. According to those sources, here are all of the writers who had a direct hand in the New Mutants script: Scott Neustadter & Michael Weber, Josh Zetumer, Chad & Carey Hayes and Seth Grahame-Smith, plus there were six more guys in a writer’s room tasked with generating ideas for the film. Interesting to note that there wasn’t a single female writer involved at any point, but that’s another sad story for another dark day. At first, Boone and Lee wanted to make a horror movie, but Fox was initially resistant to that idea, as the studio didn’t want to go “full horror.” Sources say that Fox demanded a PG-13 rating and pushed back against the film’s horror elements, such as excessive blood and scares. Eventually, everyone got on the same page, and together, they set out to make a YA movie that felt like a cross between Stephen King and John Hughes. Fox film chief Stacey Snider is basically quoted as calling New Mutants a superhero movie set in a Breakfast Club-like setting whose genre is more like The Shining than “let’s save the world.” At that point, Fox decided that instead of doing the three days of additional filming required to complete the YA movie that everyone had initially agreed to go make, the studio would change course and make a new version of the movie that was straight-up horror, which was what Boone and Lee originally wanted to do in the first place. It’s a little like a diner sending back a meal at a restaurant — not because there was something wrong with it, but because they simply changed their minds and wanted to order a different entrée, or movie, in this case. Those close to the director said he always felt a bit neutered during principal photography, as he was forced to tone down the violence in order to avoid a dreaded R-rating. And because Boone was contractually obligated to shoot what was in the script, there was only so much he could do despite his and Lee’s best instincts. Sources say that while the second half of New Mutants is basically locked at this point, the first half of the film needs some work, and that Boone will likely add a bunch of scares that didn’t initially appeal to Fox execs. He and Lee might even stand a better chance of getting what they want now than they did during the initial development phase. In the end though, insiders chalk up the confusion surrounding the tonal identity of New Mutants to the lack of a strong producer on set, as lead producer Simon Kinberg was often busy making his own X-Men movie, Dark Phoenix. About Mr Sinister being teased along with Essex: "Meanwhile, remember the Essex Corporation that was teased at the end of X-Men: Apocalypse? Well not only was New Mutants going to feature that mysterious company, but The Tracking Board has learned that Jon Hamm was originally going to appear as Mr. Sinister in a tag at the end of New Mutants, and Boone filmed material that led up to that reveal, only for Fox to change their minds after shooting had been completed. Now it’ll be Antonio Banderas playing an unspecified villain (one who isn’t expected to be Mr. Sinister) in the New Mutants tag. Additionally, Mr. Sinister wasn’t the only character Fox steered away from New Mutants, as Warlock appeared in early drafts of the script before the character was deemed too expensive." The New Mutants situation may be a mess, but insiders believe it’s a fixable one. By all accounts, it has been a stressful shoot for Boone, but he has fought the good fight in the name of making the best movie possible for fans. If the studio truly thought this was his fault, they probably would’ve fired him and brought in someone else like Lucasfilm did with Ron Howard on Solo, but Fox execs know this problem is of their own doing. That’s why they aren’t kicking him to the curb, and why they’re allowing him to both write and direct the new material. Plus, he makes a convenient scapegoat. Despite a full plate, those close to the director say he’s committed to seeing his vision for New Mutants through to the end, though it’s been frustrating for members of his cast and crew to read so much inaccurate speculation online.