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  1. The gruesome second trend from insidekino.de: #1 Chantal 225k #2 Back to Black 75k #3 GxK 75k (so actually #2) #4 Dune 2 60k #5 Kung Fu Panda 4 45k #6 The First Omen 40k ... White Bird 10k Clearly the weather is to blame. The weekdays should become greyer and colder again but at the moment it's very nice here. Probably some people will even (temporarily) start the BBQ season...
  2. The first trend from insidekino.de - all three new releases stay a little bit below the expectations: #1 Chantal 240k/1.755M total admissions #2 Back to Black 100k (with previews) #3 GxK 85k/325k #4 Dune 75k/2.897.5M #5 Kung Fu Panda 4 65k/1.412.5M ... The First Omen 47.5k White Bird 10k
  3. Civil War, counted today for today, had 1.357 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Doing best (by far) in the AMC Metreon in San Francisco (605 sold tickets), followed by LA (319) and NY (203). Up solid 20% since yesterday. Comps (all films counted on Thursday of the release week for Thursday): The Creator (1.6M from previews) had 1.120 sold tickets = 1.95M. Monkey Man (1.4M) had 1.111 sold tickets = 1.7M. Argylle (1.7M) had 997 sold tickets = 2.3M. Amsterdam (550k) had 289 sold tickets = 2.6M. BT (4.6M) had 1.508 sold tickets = 4.15M. And Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (5.8M) had 2.573 sold tickets = 3.05M. Average: 2.6M. The three comps that I had also yesterday (BT, MM and Argylle) stayed almost exactly the same . The jump till today wasn't too big and I still don't think that this is a film which will have giant walk-ups but it should clearly beat the OW of Monkey Man.
  4. Civil War, also counted yesterday for Friday, had 1.360 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Up decent 34.5% since Monday. Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Friday): BT (8M true Friday) had 1.000 sold tickets = 10.9M true Friday for CW. Nope (13.1M) had 2.408 sold tickets = 7.4M. And Monkey Man (2.8M) had 807 = 4.7M. Average: 7.65M true Friday. Still the big problem is the unevenness. But at least CW is now comfortable in front of Monkey Man.
  5. New Thursday numbers later today. Just for completeness: Civil War, counted yesterday for Thursday, had 1.130 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Up quite good 37% since Monday. Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Thursday; I did not count The Creator on Wednesday, but today I have comparison numbers again): BT (4.6M from previews) had 1.238 sold tickets = 4.2M. Nope (6.4M) had 2.839 sold tickets = 2.55M. Argylle (1.7M) had 847 sold tickets = 2.25M. And Monkey Man (1.4M) had 933 sold tickets = 1.7M. Average: 2.7M. On Monday it were 2.5M so it went a bit up.
  6. A momentary glimpse at how Abigail is doing in my theaters: It had today for next Thursday ( = 8 days left) 109 sold tickets with showtimes in all of the 7 theaters. Comps (all counted on Monday of the release for Thursday = 5 days left for Abigail): The Invitation (775k from previews) had 96 sold tickets, Prey for the Devil (660k) had 115, M3gan (2.75M) had 274 and The First Omen (725k) had 82 sold tickets. Not bad. Until then Abigail should manage it to have at least 1.5x the sales of today which would mean ca. 1-1.5M from previews.
  7. Civil War, counted yesterday for Friday, had nice 1.011 sold tickets (again with showtimes in 6 theaters). So it doesn't look frontloaded in my theaters and has a good Thursday:Friday ratio. Comps (tomorrow more comps; all three films counted on Monday of the release week for Friday): BT (8M true Friday) had 655 sold tickets = 12.4M , KotFM (6.8M) had 1.224 sold tickets = 5.65M. and Nope (13.1M) had 1.616 sold tickets = 8.2M. Average: 8.75M true Friday for CW. You see, the same problem, very uneven from the comps. Still, over 1k sold tickets already on Monday of the release week is surprisingly good.
  8. Civil War, counted yesterday for Thursday, had 826 sold tickets (with showtimes in 6 theaters). Comps (I'll add some comps tomorrow; all three films counted also on Monday of the release week for Thursday): Monkey Man (1.4M from previews) had 709 sold tickets = 1.6M, The Creator (1.6M) had 809 sold tickets = 1.65M and BT (4.6M) had 879 sold tickets = 4.3M (sorry, I had the wrong number). Average: 2.5M (that number makes more sense). That's the problem this week. The presales of CW are really fine in my theaters but the comparison numbers are very uneven, depending on whether a film had good or bad walk-ups. I said that I will stay rather conservative this week and how the tickets are proportioned is similar to the split which Monkey Man and The Creator had: all three films have/had around 100 sold tickets in the AMCs in NY and Miami, between the coasts almost nothing is sold and in San Francisco and LA the sales look very good with combined 500-600 tickets. 🤔
  9. I see that almost nobody cares today so I'll post the rest tomorrow 😉. Ungentlemanly Warfare had today 56 sold tickets today for Friday = 11 days to go. So an improvement but still a pretty poor number and I will wait a few days till the next count. Comps (not easy to find good comps IMO; both films counted for Friday): Amsterdam (550k from previews/2.05 true Friday/6.5M OW) had on Monday of its release week 121 sold tickets. Operation Fortune (220k/780k true Friday/3.1M OW) had 98 sold tickets on Wednesday of its release week. Seems meager for Warfare but that also could change quickly.
  10. Because the "weak" April got so much talking I looked at the presales of Civil War and The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare on Friday = 3 days ago. I decided to count the Friday because the Thursday presales could be less informative due to the EA shows. And I was surprised how different they look: Warfare had for Friday, April 19 = with 14 days left combined only 30 sold tickets in 6 theaters (no showtimes in the AMC Lakeline in Texas). Ok, it's still early. Whereas Civil War had also for Friday, April 12 = with 7 days left in the same 6 theaters 825 sold tickets combined. Comp: That's on par with e.g. Monkey Man on its Wednesday for Friday = 5 days left for Civil War to increase the margin. So a very good number for Civil War, especially for Friday. But after the disappointment which Monkey Man was to me I will stay way more careful and conservative this week. Civil War could overperform (I saw that other reports here look quite promising too) but it could also be the next presales hit with sparse walk-ups. Still, quite interesting. Will post new numbers later today.
  11. I think it's a limited release. It has (so far) no showtimes e.g. in the AMCs Fresh Meadows or Universal Cinema but e.g. in the AMC Burbank 16.
  12. The final trend from insidekino.de - GxK and Kung Fu Panda increased: #1 Chantal 360k #2 GxK 200k #3 Kung Fu Panda 4 115k #4 Dune 2 100k #5 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire 55k #6 The Zone of Interest 27.5k
  13. The worse second trend from insidekino.de: #1 Chantal 360k #2 GxK 185k #3 Kung Fu Panda 4 110k #4 Dune 2 100k - at least stable compared to the first trend #5 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire 55k #6 The Zone of Interest 27.5k ... no changes when it comes to the smaller releases Mark_G says he hopes that this is the worst case scenario. Where I live pale sunshine as mostly but at least not as grey as during the week. And probably the weather is better in other regions. Edit: Soon after my report it became absolutely beautiful weather-wise even where I live so I wouldn't expect wonders tomorrow...
  14. The First Omen improved a little bit and had counted today ca. 2 hours ago 452 sold tickets. Comps (both also counted on Friday for Friday but hours earlier): Cabrini (2.6M true Friday) had 503 sold tickets but was maybe/probably even more of a niche film. No idea living in Europe. And Immaculate (2M OD including previews) had 436 sold tickets. The preview number of The First Omen came in a bit higher than my comps (my guess was 550k with a little last minute rise and the actual number is 725k) so I lift my 2M prediction a little bit to 2.5-3M true Friday. But that's more or less guess work because especially this weekend so much depends purely on the walk-ups.
  15. You're right, 10M+ OW seems very pessimistic. Expendables 4 with bad WOM and reviews got 750k from previews and opened to 8M. At least in my theaters (of course that's only 7 theaters) its Friday and also Saturday presales were quite solid. Maybe it can at least reach 15M or something.
  16. Some will say that was to expect but still, very disappointing numbers for both movies. Monkey Man's presales were very uneven in our tracking thread (from not much above 1M-3.5M). Then walk-ups must have been pretty bad. The First Omen would be in line with our low expectations. The trailers were strange, almost no buzz, the reviews dropped too late plus Immaculate did not work either. I never understood why e.g. variety projected 14-15M OW.
  17. The first trend from insidekino.de: #1 Chantal 360k #2 GxK 210k - in line with expectations #3 Kung Fu Panda 4 135k/1.335M total admissions #4 Dune 2 100k/2.775M #5 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire 60k/482.5k ... Other new releases: Morgen ist auch noch ein Tag 25k Andrea lässt sich scheiden 25k - the only small new release which is at least in line with expectations, all other start far below Immaculate 17.5k Monkey Man 12.5k - sad
  18. Monkey Man, counted today for today, had 1.111 sold tickets (with showtimes in 7 theaters). Up 19% since yesterday (so it did beat Argylle by 1% ). Comps (all counted on Thursday of the release week for Thursday): Uncharted had 1.294 sold tickets = 3.2M. Argylle had 997 = 1.9M. Expendables 4 had 276 = 3M. The Creator had 1.120 = 1.6M. Silent Night had 150 = 1.85M. BT had 1.508 = 3.4M. And Dungeons & Dragons had 1.265 sold tickets = 3.6M. Average: 2.65M. A pretty wide range (1.6M - 3.6M). But because I doubt that MM will have worse walk-ups than Argylle or Silent Night I go with 2M+ from previews. And who knows, maybe they will surprise us.
  19. I'm sorry to hear that you leave Boxoffice.com @Shawn Robbins. Very much appreciated your work . The First Omen, counted today for today, had 184 sold tickets. Up good 53% since yesterday. Comps (all counted on Thursday of the release week for Thursday): Firestarter had 171 sold tickets = 400k. Thanksgiving had 365 = 500k. Prey for the Devil had 164 = 750k. Demeter had 258 = 550k. The Pope's Exorcist had 257 = 600k. The Invitation had 218 = 650k. M3gan had 782 = 650k. Barbarian had 249 = 600k. And Lisa Frankenstein had 276 = 450k. Immaculate (2M OD including previews/5.3M OW) had 237 sold tickets. Average: 550k. Judging from my theaters high single digits is already the best case scenario. But at least it improved a bit in the comps and the jump was decent.
  20. Monkey Man, counted today for Friday, had decent 807 sold tickets (of course with showtimes in all of "my" 7 theaters). Best sales in the AMCs in LA (296), San Francisco (243) and NY (155 - doing better than on Thursday = not frontloaded in that theater). Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Friday): BT had 1.000 sold tickets = 6.4M true Friday. Expendables 4 (2.35M) had 202 = 9.4M. D&D had 984 = 7.9M. And Uncharted had 982 sold tickets = 9.6M. Average: 8.3M true Friday. Almost too good, no? Overall I have trust in my numbers, but @keysersoze123 and @charlie Jatinder are way more pessimistic here and I have even more trust in what they say ;). And I'm biased because I like that kind of films and the trailers IMO look very good. But I doubt that MM will have worse walk-ups than Argylle or Expendables 4. So I'll wait till tomorrow and then add an OW number. All I can say at the moment is that MM is doing fine in my theaters.
  21. Monkey Man, counted today for tomorrow, had nice 933 sold tickets (with showtimes in 7 theaters). Best sales in the AMCs in San Francisco (327) and LA (312). Ok sales in the action-affine AMC in NY (115) so I also doubt that it will have the same walk-ups as e.g. The Beekeeper. Doing quite fine in the AMC in Florida (also 115 sold tickets). Up so-so 32% since Monday. Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Thursday): BT (4.6M from previews) had 1.238 = 3.45M. Expendables 4 (750k) had 210 = 3.3M. Uncharted (3.7M) had 1.062 = 3.25M. Argylle (1.7M) had 847 = 1.85M. And Dungeons & Dragons (4.1M Thursday only) had 925 sold tickets = 4.1M. Average: 3.2M. So as expected it lost a little bit in the comps and I think the same will happen till tomorrow but still, with halfway decent walk-ups (and I doubt that it will have worse walk-ups than e.g. Argylle) it should at least reach 2M. Let's see how big its jump till tomorrow is. E.g. Argylle jumped by 18% which is doable.
  22. The First Omen, counted today for Friday, had152 sold tickets. Up mediocre 31% since yesterday. Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Friday): Firefighter had 115 sold tickets = 1.6M true Friday. The Invitation had 167 = 1.65M. Prey for the Devil had 207 = 1.55M. The Nun 2 had 833 = 1.8M. M3gan had 506 = 2.7M. Exorcist 2 had 1.115 = 1.25M. Demeter had 232 = 1.2M. Barbarian had 140 = 3.35M. Old had 262 = 3.1M. Average: 2M true Friday. Hard for me to see 10-15M OW at the moment.
  23. The First Omen, counted today for tomorrow had 120 sold tickets. Up very modest 14% since yesterday (so at least in my theaters the first reactions did not help). Comps (all counted on Wednesday of the release week for Thursday): The Invitation (775k from previews) had 176 sold tickets = 500k. Prey for the Devil (660k) had 140 = 550k. M3gan (2.75M) had 450 = 750k. Demeter (750k) had 217 = 400k. Lisa Frankenstein (700k) had 209 = 400k. And Barbarian (850k) had 222 = 450k. Average: 500k. That clearly went into the wrong direction. Maybe the trailer is too dark or strange, Idk. Friday presales soon (they're a bit better) and also Monkey Man's Thursday and Friday presales (still pretty strong).
  24. The First Omen, counted today for Thursday, had 105 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Up modest 28% (at that low level it should have had a better jump). But let's see what happens till tomorrow, e.g. if the first reactions help. Comps (all counted on Tuesday for Thursday; tomorrow I will have way more comps): The Nun II (3.1M from previews) had 591 sold tickets = 600k. The Last Voyage of the Demeter (750k) had 194 = 400k. M3gan (2.75M) had 341 = 850k. And Lisa Frankenstein (700k) had 177 sold tickets = 400k. Average: 550k from previews for The First Omen. Overall I hoped for a better jump but the jump(s) till tomorrow will be more important anyway. PS: For Friday, it had today 116 sold tickets (also in 7 theaters). Not great either but last week it were almost zero tickets so that's at least an improvement too.
  25. Monkey Man had today 709 sold tickets for Thursday (with showtimes in 7 theaters). Comps (all counted on Monday of the release week for Thursday): Dungeons and Dragons (4.1M Thursday only) had 724 sold tickets = 4M. Argylle (1.7M) had 631 = 1.9M. Uncharted (3.7M) had 868 = 5.45M. And BT (4.6M) had 879 sold tickets = 3.7M. Average preview number: 3.75M. Please take that number with a big grain of salt because IMO that's too optimistic. It could have better walk-ups than Argylle (so 2-2.5M+ could happen) but I doubt that it can compete with e.g. Uncharted. Still, for the moment, nice presales.
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