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  1. I have one question. I know that Korea ranks by admissions.

    If the ranking is based on the boxoffice, how about  Frozen ? People say Frozen is only second to AVATAR.

     

    Admissions it is 11th highest and 2nd among foreign films

    Gross it is 6th highest and again 2nd highest among foreign films 

    local films are more popular here, frozen and avatar are generally viewed as the exception. 

  2. If those GW projections hold (basically whether the 3D and singalong gambles really pay off) i will start believing in that kind of development :)

    Until then i think i will still hold onto my conservative $190M... somebody has to stay under $200M for the sake of sanity :P

     

    Btw i really want those number to become reality! And i think one of the advantages Frozen has over local animation is that multiple versions are available that might encourage repeat business which is usually not really a factor.

     

    This is true, the same thing happened in Korea in fact. People who saw it in 2D went on to see it again in 3D, dubbed, 4dX etc. 

    Also over here 3D in most films usually account for around 10% of revenue but with frozen it was a whopping 25%. It was generally perceived as one of those movies where 3D heightens the experience rather than diminishing it. I'm reasonably confident it will be the same in Japan :)

  3. It is quite simple. It is a local new movie, and it is issued by TOHO.

    BTW, in the Japanese website, Conan is the weekend winner because it has the most audience on 4.19~4.20.

     

    Yes but even in admissions it was very close.

    Keeping in mind it was Conan's OW and that it usually drops in the second week, the safer bet would be Frozen which hasn't dropped at all since opening week. We already saw this monday conan losing to frozen in admissions. 

    Conan being issued by Toho could be a factor I guess....

  4. Frozen vs Ponyo vs Howl's moving castle head to head.
     
    [Frozen]
    ¥763,389,450 ($7.5 million)
    ¥872,269,400 ($8.6 million) +13% ¥3.01 billion ($29.6 million)
    ¥881,212,200 ($8.6 million) +1% ¥5,278,137,250 ($51.6 million)
    ¥850,911,950 ($8.3 million) -3.5%  ¥7.71 billion ($75.2 million)
    ¥842,035,350 ($8.2 million) -1% ¥9.28 billion ($90.7 million)
    ¥826,781,000 ($8.1 million) -1.8% ¥10,73 billion ($104.7 million)
     
    [Ponyo]
    ¥1.034 billion ($9.8 million)
    ¥806 million ($7.6 million), -21%, ¥3.228 billion ($30.5 million)
    ¥776 million ($7.3 million), -05%, ¥5.258 billion ($48.9 million)
    ¥755 million ($7.1 million), -03%, ¥7.212 billion ($67.1 million)
    ¥851 million ($7.9 million), +13%, ¥9.941 billion ($92.6 million)
    ¥577 million ($5.5 million), -32%, ¥11.47 billion ($106.6 million)
     
    [Howl's moving castle]
    ¥1.483 billion ($14.0 million)
    ¥1.249 billion ($11.7 million), -16%, ¥4.754 billion ($44.5 million)
    ¥1.012 billion ($9.9 million), -16%, ¥6.785 billion ($65.9 million)
    ¥953 million ($9.2 million), -07%, ¥8.445 billion ($81.4 million)
    ¥789 million ($7.6 million), -17%, ¥9.756 billion ($94.2 million)
    ¥622 million ($6.0 million), -21%, ¥10.72 billion ($105.1 million)
     
    All tracking very close to each other. Especially howl, the yen amount is practically the same for it. It'll be interesting to see if frozen can start pulling away from them during GW.
     
    All the data is from WOKJ.
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  5. Frozen vs Spirited Away head to head
     
    [frozen]
    ¥763,389,450 ($7.5 million)
    ¥872,269,400 ($8.6 million) +13% ¥3.01 billion ($29.6 million)
    ¥881,212,200 ($8.6 million) +1% ¥5,278,137,250 ($51.6 million)
    ¥850,911,950 ($8.3 million) -3.5%  ¥7.71 billion ($75.2 million)
    ¥842,035,350 ($8.2 million) -1% ¥9.28 billion ($90.7 million)
    ¥826,781,000 ($8.1 million) -1.8% ¥10,727,641,000 ($104.7 million)
     
    [spirited away]
    ¥1.001 billion ($8.9 million)
    ¥975 million ($8.7 million), -02%, ¥4.240 billion ($34.6 million)
    ¥890 million ($7.9 million), -09%, ¥7.220 billion ($59.0 million)
    ¥940 million ($8.4 million), +06%, ¥10.75 billion ($87.8 million)
    ¥890 million ($7.9 million), -06%, ¥13.26 billion ($109.3 million)
    ¥900 million ($8.0 million), +02%, ¥14.90 billion ($123.3 million)
     
    currently tracking approximately $19M behind. it should narrow the gap during GW hopefully. 
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  6. Here is spirited away . No 25m week in number 9. Currency was 18% lower then. Drop two decimals from yen to get current dollars. First 7 weekend and weeks are bigger, but it was summer. The spring turtle gonna catch the summer rabbit.¥1.001 billion ($8.9 million)¥975 million ($8.7 million), -02%, ¥4.240 billion ($34.6 million)¥890 million ($7.9 million), -09%, ¥7.220 billion ($59.0 million)¥940 million ($8.4 million), +06%, ¥10.75 billion ($87.8 million)¥890 million ($7.9 million), -06%, ¥13.26 billion ($109.3 million)¥900 million ($8.0 million), +02%, ¥14.90 billion ($123.3 million)¥685 million ($6.2 million), -24%, ¥17.13 billion ($148.5 million)¥695 million ($6.3 million), +02%, ¥18.65 billion ($160.8 million)¥650 million ($5.8 million), -07%, ¥19.98 billion ($171.7 million)¥510 million ($4.6 million), -21%, ¥22.40 billion ($183.7 million)¥435 million ($4.0 million), -15%, ¥23.60 billion ($193.6 million)¥395 million ($3.6 million), -09%, ¥24.40 billion ($200.2 million)¥265 million ($2.4 million), -32%, ¥24.89 billion ($204.2 million)¥270 million ($2.5 million), +02%, ¥25.37 billion ($208.1 million)¥330 million ($3.0 million), +22%, ¥25.97 billion ($213.0 million)¥305 million ($2.7 million), -08%, ¥26.56 billion ($218.8 million)¥195 million ($1.7 million), -36%, ¥27.04 billion ($222.7 million)¥185 million ($1.6 million), -04%, ¥27.40 billion ($225.6 million)¥255 million ($2.2 million), +31%, ¥27.84 billion ($229.1 million)¥150 million ($1.3 million), -40%, ¥28.18 billion ($231.8 million)¥115 million ($1.0 million), -26%, ¥28.40 billion ($233.5 million)

     

    The left hand column is weekends yes?

    I could see Frozen with the GW bump possibly holding better than SA did for weekends. 

    But man those midweeks were huge for spirited away...

  7. It remains to be seen what kind of effect the ferry disaster will have on TASM2's opening. It certainly impacted last weeks box office.

     

    For now it looks have a bigger OD than CA2 at least but CA2 had huge presales going into the weekend (177k with 62% share)

    Tasm2 will have to do the same to open big. 

     

    TASM had 1.7M admissions in a 4day OW so 2m in a 5 day OW isn't out of the question. whether it can co-exist with the fatal encounter the following week is the bigger problem really. 

     

    Current presales: 51,553 (44% share)

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  8. Oh yeah, I assumed they didn't without checking.

    The only way they could know how much it made in others is by subtracting the total number with what they have for each country, which would make each country "accurate" by definition so it would be pointless.

     

    Or something else then. I find it hard to believe a country like indonesia doesn't have BO tracking of any sort. Maybe with a little effort they could track those countries.

  9. Notice how the Frozen OS page only has 53 markets listed, but Frozen was released in more than 70 markets... Also BOM has not yet updated the last week of Japan grosses, but those numbers are taken in to account in the total OS number.

    Japan has been updated. It shows as $104m, might be lower than actuals though. They should put countries they don't track/list under "others" category or something. That way we can know that the grosses of each country is accurate
  10. It has always been this way, BOM gets the individual country numbers from various sources, sometimes local. The total OS number is not an addition of all of BOM's individual county tracking, but rather a direct number from the distributor. BOM has never tracked every single market so have to do it this way.

    That makes sense I guess but a $40m error is still huge. Some of those grosses must be really off...
  11. THIS!! Seriously, when BOM stopped reporting box office from Indonesia last year I was like NOOOOOOOO! I'm dying to know how big Frozen is in term of box office numbers. Btw Despicable Me 2 was the highest grossing animated film ever with around $6.2m. Do you think Frozen beat it? Minions are extremely popular here though.

     

    Actually now that you mention it, I did a quick comparison between the reported OS number and the sum of the grosses of each individual country and there's actually a big discrepancy. 

    Bom reports that frozen has grossed $729,300,000 (a suspiciously round number) but the sum of the gross from each country comes to $689,147,955. I smell something fishy....

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