Cynosure
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Damn. Even accounting for population growth, that's massive.
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Thanks dude, no one has been saying this for the last two hours.
It just serves as some form of confirmation.
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The Numbers @MovieNumbers 9m9 minutes ago
Other tracking numbers suggest #JurasicWorld could do better than Universal's projection. A weekend record is still possible.- 2
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Universal are cautious and they should be praised for this. Sick of the eternal fudging.
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It's much less variable though. Just look at the exchange rate situation for example. Here, the third Hobbit movie for example sold 50% more tickets than its predecesors, but the gain in USD was much much smaller. Yet, it was a much larger event. And that's not even talking about IMAX, 3D and economy.
And all factors affecting admissions will also automatically affect gross anyway. I think admissions should be the way to go since population growth remains far smaller than inflation in most developed countries (0.7% in the US, 0.5% in China, -0.2% in Japan, 0.5% in France etc.).
With a 0.7% population growth, it would take 43 years to affect admissions as much as inflation affects growth in 15 with a 2% inflation rate.
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I think admissions matter and I do find that American posters, media and industry focus too much on gross so they can pull the word 'record' our of their ass as often as possible even when admissions are potentially declining.
With a 2% inflation a year, you have a 34% increase in 15 years. 55% increase with a 3% inflation. Taking into account population growth and 3D means that focusing solely on growth ensures that record will always be broken which is a bit dishonest.
In my country for example they go by admissions: the last record was beaten in 2008 when we got the highest local movie of all time in admissions which beat a movie from....1966. When it comes to imported movies, Titanic is still the record holder (and the all time in fact). Sure, it means you won't have 'RECORD' every 2 years, but it's more honest imo.
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Ok, here's how it works.
RTH works for a company that allows him to track the box office in real time. He has real numbers. When I met with him t TIFF last year, he pulled out his laptop and could tell me up to the minute how much a film made in any city or any market. AT ANY TIME. So there is no doubting RTH. He is about 3 or 4 levels above Deadline and Nikki and anyone else who gets their numbers from sources. RTH is the source.
When Saturday's dollars are finished being counted, studios then make a Sunday prognostication based on history, similar films, the time of year and so on. This is why Universal is making a prediction for a big drop on Sunday, because they are being conservative. RTH says it is at 153 mill so far. So Universal gives it a 25% drop on Sunday and that gives them headlines saying it made more than 200 mill...pretty nice headline. Then if it drops less on Sunday than they estimated, they break the OW record and create more headlines.
That's how the weekend numbers work around here. RTH is God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Hari Krishna and so on. In RTH we trust.
Except when it comes to AOU of course.
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However it will not set the OW record for admissions for certain it seems unless Sunday goes beserk.
Don't forget to mention that again. I haven't quite understood it yet after the 8177281th time.
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LOL, we actually just got an over 200m OW estimate for JW and we're acting like it's a disappointment.
We're all on pins and needles...
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Out. No chance.
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TA1 first estimate : $200,300,000.
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It's not even 9 am in freaking NY. This estimate doesn't have much value.
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Lol at all these whack ass Avengers haters. JW ain't getting the ow record.
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Let's not get carried away. AOU is far far far far from a failure.
Hey, who wouldn't??? And if you honest to God consider 450M(Soon to be) a Failure, than you suck worse than I do when it comes to box office logic cause if that's a failure, I'll take it $$$$$
Hence 'failure compared to expectations'. Not in absolute terms. Although it not even keeping the DOM crown and being topped by something other than SW would be the ultimate blow.
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How on earth am I in Denial?? Look at my username??? What's wrong with you??
Clinging on the smallest achievement to make it seem like AOU isn't a failure compared to expectations.
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9). Avengers: Age of Ultron (DIS), 2,156 theaters (-315) / $1.1M Fri. (-42%) / 3-day cume: $3.5M (-45%) / Total cume: $444.6M / Wk 7
And look at AOU hanging in there, even after this super monster opening for JW.. Not bad for a movie a lot of people think sucks and 4M away from knocking TDKR off.. I'll take it..
Still in denial I see.
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Disappointing.
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AOU losing on all fronts. :lol:
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Quite a few japanese anime are huge in China. Doraemon is one of them. I'm pretty sure Japanese anime movies have quite the potential there. Too bad so few of them are actually released.
Hopefully one day China ends up being more open to movies from different countries (Japan, France, Korea, Germany etc.) and ends up giving some of them significant grosses, it could allow these countries to produce more high-budget movies and be more competitive on the market which could only be a good thing.
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Interesting how after AOU's pathetic WOM we get the exact opposite with MM.
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Do Dragon Ball and Detective Conan movies have a chance of being released in China ?
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No, the WOm was perfectly fine, a very good movie, better than the first one.
Such stubbornness is touching...
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Its crappy WOM too. Like everywhere.
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It will be lucky to do as good as episode III.
Jurassic World Weekend Thread | Official Est. 204.6M | 208.8M - Actuals
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Marvel fans are so pressed.
Now we just need Ant-man to flop and 2015 will have been a glorious year.