Eric Prime

It's a sad case of fascism and bigotry being on the rise recently over the past few years. A lot of far-right leaders are now in major positions of power, and that has bolstered a lot of these wretched opinions into the mainstream. Social media platforms make way too much profit off these horrible people, so it makes this propaganda spread even further. Capitalism is killing us faster than the virus will and what not. Also doesn't help that kids shows on Disney Channel or Cartoon Network don't really get a lot of attention in the entertainment press and media compared to kids movies. So you got a big Pixar movie that these grifters can use to manipulate people via "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" methods. And Disney's arguably profiting off all this, because they believe this stuff will bolster people to check out the movie. They do the bare minimum of representation and then reap in the rewards. You have to see the movie, or else the bigots win. Just a terrible, terrible cycle.

We're all minions to the machine mannnnnnn

A child who identifies themselves as non-binary.

I think an underrated aspect will be that these movies will lose negotiating power for Disney. Disney gets the best demands and benefits from theater owners because they have the biggest, must-see movies across their entire company. But because Disney+ results in terrible box office for their animated movies (I personally see Strange World and Elemental and the like getting only doing around 250M like Encanto, which would not be good at all), that means Disney loses a lot of their demand power. Something I know Disney does not want to lose with the MCU or Avatar. And sure, even if these movies make a loss theatrically, revenue is revenue. But if it hurts the bottom line, might as well take a loss and place it onto streaming. Silly yes, but I'm not a Disney executive. The reason for these short windows are simple. To executives (not me, please don't yell at me about this), they want to strike while the iron is hot. And to them, getting a movie on their streaming service right when it comes out means they have it while the movie is still in the conversation, and that it will be in the conversation a while longer because it's at home earlier. Again, I know it's silly and makes little sense, and I disagree with this, but it's not like Hollywood is full of bright execs, especially these days in our short-sighted capitalist hellscape. Media literacy is dead.

luca

You're right. I was wrong there. But that's because they were speculation. They were predictions. They were how I personally felt would happen. Was I wrong? Yes. But everybody is wrong sometimes. Nobody has a flawless track record here. This is a discussion forum, so I am going to express what I feel and what I think will happen. You can disagree with me. You can think I am overreacting. And that's more than fine. But I, and others, are not going to stop posting stuff you think is wrong. Otherwise, what is the point of this forum? And I'm sorry, but I genuinely believe that Disney's animated movies, at their best, will barely make much of anything in theaters and at worst most of them will become Disney+ exclusives. I felt that Disney's animated movies would see poor grosses in the future ever since Disney+ first came out, albeit a lot faster than I expected due to outside circumstances, and there's no evidence that I have seen that suggests things will not change. You can give me all the arguments in the world, but I'm not going to agree with them. I'm sorry. Was I perhaps being hyperbolic before? Sure. But it's not like other people here have been hyperbolic in their statements. And if you really hate BOT and their overreactions, like I always say here, you can ignore these posts, specifically by putting certain users on your Ignore list, or find another forum or website to talk about box office. The Internet has plenty of places where you can talk box office, so you don't have to stick around a place/community you're not a fan of.

Mickey's Law doesn't impact Disney movies at all. Mickey's Law only applies to non-Disney movies. This means that when Lightyear or A Wrinkle in Time or whatever bombs, it was on its own accords, not because of the Law.

If numbers are low enough, then contracts can be broken and a new movie will take place. Ninja Turtles 2 wasn't supposed to come out in IMAX, but after Alice Through the Looking Glass bombed hardcore, it was given a last-minute conversion, because it was clear to IMAX this would make more money. However, it's unlikely they will give this back to Top Gun or Dominion. Unless it's a super dead weekend like Labor Day or the week after Thanksgiving or something, movies very rarely return back to IMAX. Even in those times it makes more sense to just play what's already playing or just pick a new movie out that weekend like Elvis. The best chance Top Gun or Dominion comes back to IMAX or any other PLFs is probably the weekend of August 26, but it's possible that something like Beast will play there instead.

To infinity and discuss!

2009 was a long time ago.

At best this is getting low 60s, and with audience WOM already looking bad (sub-90 on RT's Verified Aud score), who knows if that's possible. How is earth is this number excusable?

Like I said before, Disney+ is a huge problem in turning families away from Lightyear, as well as the concept being a real "who asked for this". But I have been thinking the past week or so that the recent inflation issues are a huge problem as well. I can't prove this per se, but inflation and costs are the worst it's ever been. $5 per gallon and food prices being the way that they are has already made me rework my own budgets and work from home a lot more, just so I can avoid spending on gas more. I'm sure a lot of people, especially families, are struggling right now and they will look over their entertainment budgets and consider that going to buy movie tickets just aren't worth it since there's so much entertainment at home. This could of course be wrong, and this obviously does not excuse Lightyear's box office, but if the next couple weeks begin to see underperformances, we might need to rethink about the box office for the rest of the year, and I think this is something worth talking about. (As an aside, this isn't an invitation to debate about Joe Biden and his presidency. We have a politics forum for that kind of stuff, so don't even try.)

Moderation @Legion and Thunder @EmpireCity the conversation is over. If you still want to argue over these random semantics, do it through PM

When we get an official preview number. We don't have that yet.

Lightyear Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 140 1898 23359 8.13% Total Seats Sold Today: 799 Comp 2.409x of Jungle Cruise (6.5M) 2.799x of Encanto (4.2M) 0.561x of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (3.51M) People may balk at JC and Encanto's drops, but those were way more walk-up driven. I also don't see it going as low as Sonic 2, so it's in an odd inbetween of movies that I guess will lead to...5.5M? Hopefully 6M, because like sub-60 is embarrassing.

I still think about Michelle Pfieffer's performance on the daily. That's a rare Christopher Reeve scenario where they nailed the character so well right off the bat, in casting and performance and writing and everything that all other interpretations can't even come close. Hathaway and especially Kravitz come close, but no cigar.

I think I remember seeing one dude (I think here actually lmao) complain that Lego Movie 2 was anti-male. Which like...how much of a nerd do you have to be to say something like that 😂

My favorite part is when the kid's like "I saw the movie twice". You know he thought this was rad as hell and was just using the "just to get a good view of it" as an excuse so his parents could take him to it again.

Nope Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-36 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 50 108 11053 0.98% Total Seats LOST Today: -1 I forgot to publish this last night, but it sold nothing yesterday and...lost one ticket today. Preeeeeeeeeety boring.